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Hrt patches and ads?

186 replies

Baddz · 29/06/2015 20:53

My go thinks I am in menopause/peri menopause.
I am 42 and am having lots of troubling symptoms, and my periods are now slightly irregular and only last 2/3 days (instead of 7)
I am getting horrendous hot flushes.
Headaches, nausea, need to wee all the time, almost psychotic rage the week before my period, hugely sore boobs, palpitations....it's really really affecting the quality of my life.
I have had a blood test and an ecg andI am hoping to see her again on weds.
Has anyone used patches and ads together?
That's her suggestion.
I am all for anything that could make me feel better tbh :(

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pinkfrocks · 18/07/2015 09:07

It's norethisterone
I used to take this as part of my HRT but have now changed to natural progesterone.

patient.info/medicine/norethisterone-for-painful-or-heavy-periods-primolut-n-utovlan

It's not usually prescribed once the bleeding has started, but hopefully it may help a bit.

BTW I once read that the 'clots' women describe are not clots, but actually the lining that has built up - so it's the tissue, not clotted blood.

Baddz · 18/07/2015 09:20

Bleeding has taiked off...should I continue with the n?

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pinkfrocks · 18/07/2015 10:08

I don't know really....

how many have you taken?

It might be the effect of the tablets that has stopped it a bit, so if you take no more it might start again- so all you can do is experiment.

Baddz · 18/07/2015 10:13

I will take them til Monday I think when I see the GP.
Sigh.
What a palaver.

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PeterSpots · 19/07/2015 06:29

Hello. I've been admitted to hospital for hopefully a scan today. Just hoping they can help me

pinkfrocks · 19/07/2015 08:42

You poor thing Flowers
Is this a pelvic scan or for your face?
If it's for your bladder etc don't allow any more invasive procedures.

I think you ought to treat this as severe atrophy and get started on local HRT but also think about IC and maybe ask for meds for that. One of the easiest to start with is amitrip. at 5mgs dose a day, or hydroxyzine, 20mgs a day.
If it IS IC and not atrophy, there is no single cure or treatment- it's a case of what helps each person and many drs don't know much about it- you have to do your own research and guide them a lot of the time.

PeterSpots · 19/07/2015 12:44

Hello. Thank you. It's for the pain in my bladder/urethra after cystoscopy. Having an ultrasound sometime. Then maybe a CT scan. Been ok but feeling a bit low. It feels like this will never end. My life has stopped since the cystoscopy. The face is slowly improving. Got to put a smile on as family is coming in a bit. I think the cream may help. Will stick to the Ic diet when I get out. I don't know why I have become so sore. Maybe it was sore anyway &
It's irritated everything. I really need a break. I'm off for the 6 weeks holidays as I'm a school secretary so the pressure to get back to work is off. Just want to get back to me & being a mum & a wife

PeterSpots · 19/07/2015 12:46

Sorry that was a self pitying post.

Baddz · 19/07/2015 13:48

Really hope they manage to help x

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PeterSpots · 19/07/2015 20:39

Thank you. Had morphine this weekend. No scan but Tomottow & will see doctors. Can't believe I am in so much pain :(

pinkfrocks · 20/07/2015 07:45

Peter, I'd not build up your hopes that scans etc will show anything wrong. If you have urethral inflammation, caused either by lack of oestrogen, or by the trauma of the investigation, it's not going to show up on a scan. If you don't have bladder frequency, bladder pain or urgency then it's not likely to be IC except IC can sometimes affect just the urethra initially.

Read the COB Foundation site and look at the meds that are used to IC and ask to try one or two. As I said , ami is licensed for bladder pain and does not need a 'real' diagnosis of IC - just the symptoms.

If you don't think your symptoms match IC then you should push for the vaginal HRT- have you read ll the thread on this on the Menopause Matters forum..because there are many women going through the same thing.

PeterSpots · 20/07/2015 08:23

I think I have bladder pain or the ache I have on the left behind my pubic bone or it's the pelvic congestion. The burning after I pass takes my breath away. Really I don't know. I just don't know.

PeterSpots · 20/07/2015 08:23

No frequency or urgency. Just soreness

Baddz · 20/07/2015 20:26

How's things Peter?
I'm bleeding again...sigh.
Dr said to go back if it gets worse or I get pain.
Might have to just ride it out.

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PeterSpots · 21/07/2015 17:32

Been sent home from hospital with morphine & told to see my gynaecologist. My pain is so bad. So very upset

Baddz · 21/07/2015 18:50

Oh dear :(
How long til you see your gynae?

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PeterSpots · 21/07/2015 20:43

Tomorrow. Not long. I'm sitting with my family & I don't know how I can Carry on in this pain. I don't want to go on anymore

Baddz · 21/07/2015 20:58

Chronic pain is soul destroying
Make sure you tell the gynae how desperate you feel
Thinking of you x

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PeterSpots · 21/07/2015 21:23

Thank you. I've said it. I don't know how to cope with this. I called the Samaritans before I went to hospital. I don't know how to get through the days. It's torture. I am burning & hurting so much underneath. The pain from the custoscopy on top of what's there has broken me. How am I ever going to get better. I am existing not living.

Baddz · 21/07/2015 21:51

:(

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PeterSpots · 21/07/2015 22:09

Thank you. this has stopped my life. I am so desperate at the moment &
The only thing that will help is the pain to go. I'm worried how j will cope if it doesn't. I am worried about how desperate I feel. It's a never ending knawing pain. I know I have to dig deep but I see my life disappear each day. I'm sorry this isn't the place to express my desperation & dark thoughts. X

pinkfrocks · 21/07/2015 22:45

One thing to try is a TEns machine- you can buy this. It stops the pain by working on nerves in the spine. Talk to your dr about it.

tensmachineuk.com/tens-machine/tens-machine.html?gclid=CM_Cm9OY7cYCFdMatAod8yQLZg

Not sure how long it is since your investigation but it may take 3 weeks or so for the trauma to disappear. I know this seems like an age but you WILL get better.

Is the morphine not helping?

PeterSpots · 22/07/2015 09:46

Hello. Thank you. It's two weeks tomorrow. It is still sore I think it was being masked by the pain killers in hospital. Sorry to post so miserable. Sorru for tmi but I am lubricated downstairs. Could it still be lack of eostrogen. I am taking a leaflet when me from bladder & bowel foundation on the effects of the menopause to the consultant today as one of the possible treatment options.

  1. oestrogen
MRI/ct scan 2.pelvix congestion
  1. Pelvic pain clinic

The cystoscopy has made me worse. Why did I do it.

Do you think it could take weeks. You can see by my posts I'm so desperate for reassurance &
Then I'm left with it & get so low

PeterSpots · 22/07/2015 10:26

I'm really hoping on the least invasive & praying I need the oestrogen & it's a horrible reaction but I think in my heart I don't think I will be lucky & the posts I've read where people are better. I've lost all hope. The hospital was such an awful experience. The f1 just looked at me like I was a time wasting bit of dirt. I have to carry on at home but what option do I have

Eliottsmam · 22/07/2015 10:39

Apologies in advance, Baddz, for going back on my word Flowers.

Peterspots, if you didn't have the cystoscopy the doctors would still be wondering if your problem was bladder related. Your condition may have got worse even if you hadn't have had the cystoscopy, which would also be delaying them getting to the bottom of this.

It may be the wrong hrt, too much, too little, the need for local oestrogen, or something totally unrelated.

When you are suffering so badly it's easy to clutch at straws, taking advice from here, there, and everywhere. The best people to help you are trained professionals, who can look at all of your medical history, your thyroid issues, previous health issues, and current symptoms, to try to get to the bottom of what's causing you so much pain.

Probably the best piece of advice I can offer is to tell the gynae exactly how bad you feel. Tell them if it is worse at certain times of day, or worse depending on the situation. i.e. after the loo, a shower, after sitting for ages, standing for ages etc. etc.

Easy for me to say? Yes, because a few years ago I was climbing the walls with pain.

Take care and good luck.