North of the border: the all-new bumps and bairns thread

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We've now vacated the pregnancy threads - hope everyone can find us here!

ooh that looks very good, thanks a lot ladies. DP did the night feeds last night (expressed milk) she fed perfectly and went straight back to sleep. The HV said it is because she can smell the breastmilk from me so probably comfort feeding as well. Although DP would like to believe its just cos he is so great .

Good news shes put on weight and is now 6lb 14, last week was 6lb 5 .

I was looking for baby massage classes and read about the playrooms in maryhill, what are they?I have seen them mentioned a few times. Also does anyone here go or has been to baby massage?

Hi Clu - I think the playrooms in Maryhill are the Garscube playrooms - I've never been but Loulee and WeeOnion were recommending them (see further up this thread).

As for baby massage, Balance in Napiershall Street does a post-natal yoga class for mums and babies - you bring your baby along and there's some yoga for the mums and a bit of baby massage/yoga for the LOs. I took ds1 when he was tiny and it was, frankly, disastrous. All the other babies lay on their blankets and cooed cutely at their mums while ds1 squawked all the way through the class. I used to spend most of the class feeding him and then had time only for a swift downward dog and it was time to go home. We didn't re-enrol, but it's a nice class - Maureen, the teacher, is great.

clu - congrats on the newbie! another cosleeper idea is the arms reach co-sleeper. i kinda wish i had got one of these.
baby massage - i dont know where you are in g'go but there are courses run through teh hv over here?

I really really like that arms reach co sleeper thanks for that!

I think Lily would sleep all the way through yoga unless it coincided with feeding, during the day nothing will wake her. wee onion I live in Anniesland.

Just popping on to have a completely self-indulgent moan. Aaaaaaaarrrrrrghhhhhh I AM SO BLOODY ILL . I am not good at being sick. I tell you, you all had a lucky escape on Friday as both ds & I were obviously already lurgy-ridden and probably shedding germs right, left and centre.

Ds is ok in himself, thank goodness, just really snottery and with a cough, but I've got a killer sore throat and haven't felt this hot and shivery since the mastitis days. AND I can feel the start of a cold sore. Pants. I only went into work for an hour today, only second week back .

The really crap thing is that if we're both not better by Saturday ds's birthday tea is off. We're meant to be heading through to my parents as my mum has started her chemo, and I can't risk exposing her to this. Still, it surely has to have gone by then?

Oh bugger. Sorry, as you were...

hugs* bookthief, get yourself to bed hope you feel better soon.

bookthief - know how you feel. we're all bug ridden too. high dose vit c and echinacea don't even seem to be breaking it - but def worth a try.
clu - playrooms are fab - though not so good for a newborn (unless you are there with older kids too, or need some company - oh, maybe that means they are good for nb !
did baby massage with dd1 through local health visitor / clinic. think classes also used to be run through hillhead library - but believe they were rather chaotic. i know my doctors still offer baby massage classes

Hope you both feel better soon bookthief . The boys and I have a semi-permanent cold which we play catch with. It just passes from one of us to the next and then back again.

I didn't know your mum was ill . Sorry to hear that. Could you delay the birthday tea, and have an official birthday in the manner of the Queen (ds will never know...)

bt - hope you are feeing a bit better.
thinking of your mum as well. x

Congratulations clu - she is gorgeous - can't believe we were so close in the hospital - probably passed in the ward several times!

Don't know if we might have the same health visitor but she told me that there were baby massage classes at the Netherton community centre (opposite Knightswood Primary) and she thought there might be more things on there. Haven't got around to finding out any more yet but might wander round today if the rain stays off. She also told me I could find out about local groups and classes at my doctors surgery - but I haven't made it down yet as mine is in Whiteinch and I still can't drive.

I also saw a lot of mums with prams near the church at Knightswood Cross yesterday morning so had a look for mum and baby groups locally and I think there may be a few round our way.

I don't know if you fancy it but we could always meet for a coffee somewhere one day (if I can get organised on my own!)

Hi luna, clu - I'm just in the middle of summat, but one of my pals in the west End has put together a list of M&T groups in the area. I'll copy it over from my email in a wee while for you.

What a morning we're having here...

I know luna how odd is that! it would be great to meet for coffee , once you feel sorted. Gawd only knows how you cope with two, it takes me forever to get out the house with one. Can't remember my HV visitor name but she seems very nice and had a blonde bob.

I'll maybe take a walk down to Netherton centre on Monday and have a look and Im going to the docs next thursday so I'll see then.

I drove today for the first time since my section, perhaps squeezing into jeans and driving was not a good idea, but it went ok. I had phoned my insurance company to check though and they did not have any rules about it.

Thanks for that midnight, look forward to seeing that list, hope your morning gets better...

Right, here we are, with authorial comments included (not mine - I haven't been to any of these):

Broomhill Toddlers: good, and four days a week, so you can take your pick. (Broomhill Church, Randolph Rd; Mon, Tue, Wed and Fri)

Garscube Community Playrooms (open all week)

Hyndland Toddler Group (Novar Drive), Tuesdays & Thursdays 10am-11:30am

Observatory Road Groups (including French, German and Spanish groups. English-speaking group is very good - friendly and cosmopolitan!)

Partick Annexe, Thursdays 10am-noon

St John's Renfield Church, Kelvindale, Tuesdays & Thursdays 10am-11:45am

Scotstoun Toddler Group (Scotstoun Parish Church, Earlbank Avenue) seemed good but I've only been once.

wow! thats some list. i've not been to any asides from the playrooms. willtry and let people know in advance when i'm next going up, but often only decide the night before.. but if anyone fancie joining me let me know?

bookthief, hows your mum? chemo is so horrible.

Well after all my angst earlier on in the week we got to Edinburgh and had a lovely time! Mum decided that ds & I were probably not infectious any more even though we both still had cold symptoms so we were ok to visit.

It was great. My brother, sil and nephew came over and also an old school friend and her ds. We had Cava and cake (M&S in the end with my best wobbly writing icing on to personalise it a bit..) and managed to avoid any tears until the footie started.

My mum looks fantastic. You really wouldn't know that she had a chemo cycle ten days ago except for her needing a rest in the afternoon. She has been very fortunate in that the pills they gave her for the side effects have worked really well. Unfortunately her third cycle is on the 19th December but sil & I are going to do Christmas dinner so she doesn't have to do anything if she doesn't feel up to it, and although apparently the fatigue is cumulative so could be hitting her more severely at that point, she's been told that the other side effects are unlikely to be any worse for future cycles. Fingers crossed, Christmas should still be good this year.

Hope everyone else had a good weekend!

Glad you (and DS of course) had a good time, Bookthief. Makes me feel quite guilty that we decided on a low-key 2nd birthday for ds1 the other week.

I'm glad too that your mum is doing OK after the chemo. It's such a hideous disease, isn't it? Fingers crossed for a good Christmas. We ordered a goose for ours on Saturday (note to self - find out how to cook it before 25th Dec).

thanks midnight thats a great list and hopefully we can supply it with updated reviews and comments. Loulee, my dd is only 3 weeks but if you are going to the playrooms I might tag along for a nosey. Bookthief glad your mum is ok, it must be very hard for her and your family and hope she is ok for Christmas.

Im getting out of Christmas cooking this year, going to Ireland to DP family and intend to do absoloutely nothing.......

But can I ask some advice from you experienced mummies .

I had a really bad night with DD last night and have spent the whole day in tears from tiredness. I think my problem is when is a newborn not a newborn. She is 3 weeks old so is it still ok to be sleeping during the day with her, house a mess and being at the mercy of my baby or should i be getting her up in the morning, trying to keep her awake and functioning more like a human being now?

I would appreciate any word of wisdom from your own experience, I have no family and my Dp family is in Ireland so am making all this up as I go along. thanks

I know where you're coming from clu. I think those very first weeks just seem so loooooooong - your life has just been completely changed in every way - that you can lose perspective on how early in the game you actually are.

I would say, as a conservative estimate, give yourself until after Christmas before you start thinking about getting things together. I'm not giving this as any sort of actual guideline development-wise, it's just that as a mum of a November baby I found Christmas to be a useful milestone, before which I didnt even try to fit in with anything except ds's needs and my needs.

You're being very, very sensible in sleeping when she's sleeping. Keep it up!!

(I dunno btw, I think I'd maybe think anything up to 12 weeks is newborn?)

thanks I really appreciate your advice and insight. You are right it does seem a really long time, I think I need to relax and stop overthinking things as well.

Agree with bookthief Clu. I remember going to visit pals with 2 children when ds1 was about 12 weeks old and them saying to us 'just put him to bed at 7 and you'll have an evening', and we did! Until then we'd been pretty much going with the flow iirc. And I think with ds2, as a result, we were trying to get some kind of routine for bedtime by about 8 or 9 weeks. But by then they tend to start making a bit of a distinction between day and night. With ds2 I decided to think of a day as 24 hours and just tried to get enough sleep during a 24 hour stretch (as opposed to during the night time), which worked quite well.

In a few months, you won't be able to remember any of it. Both of mine are a bit of a blur at that age.

Clu - My ds is nearly 7 months and we stl go back to bed together for an hour of a morning - we get up at 7.30, have a wee plsy snd some breakfast then back to bed mby 8.30 for an hour - to be honest its the only way he'll go back to sleep and I find it fills the morning in a bit - the days really drag if you are up and ready by 9 o clock!

Would second what ME says about bedtime routine - ds goes about 7 which gives us a few hours to -watch mindless crap on tv- relax and chat on an evening.

At 3 weeks though you really just have to go with the flow and do whatever is best for you and dd. You will not look back in years to come at this time and remember with fondness how clean and tidy your house was... its the lazy morning spent cuddling,playing etc that you will remember. Also - she'll never be 3 weeks again so enjoy it!!

Sorry thik that was a mammouth posr!!

thanks a lot ladies, i know you are right and I feel a lot better today not as sleep deprived.

It really helps to know how other people got on almost to me what is normal. And I can go back to staring at her for ages which is a lovely thing to do.

Thanks again

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agree with the others, Clu - ignore the housework, there's a lovely poem my mil says about ignoring housework and being with your baby - i will look it out for you
will also let you know when I'm next up at playrooms - and will try to make it an afternoon! (will cat you with my details as often short notice!)

LOL at mindless crap GMM - I so love mindless crap at the moment! - am knitting while watching to make it even better!!