Durham/Newcastle/in-between 2011: the Spiglet has arrived!

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Waiting for Kara...

Don't bother social services- I'll take action against DP myself. Fruit and veg diet so T can only snaffle healthy things. Is that punishment enough? Obviously wouldn't have happened with me in charge as I'm too quick for the wee blighter and would have finished the cake before he caught a sniff of it

Think this one is going to be the poster boy for BLW...

LOL @ T!! Fabulous! He is doing well, DD is sort of trying to roll over but failing miserably. Think it is because she is so fat.

Bless her, it must be so frustrating for them- they know they want to do something but just can't quite get there. I can't believe how quickly the new baby bit has gone this time, they'll be fighting running around with their siblings in no time.

Cake tomorrow! Woo!

There had bloody well better be cake tomorrow. There has been a tummy bug going round and after school ds was complaining that his tummy hurt . On the plus side if he gets it then it will definitely sort out his latest poo backlog but if he can wait until tomorrow afternoon then that would be great. I need cake. If I can prop my eyelids open long enough to drive into Durham. Seriously I think I'd get more sleep with newborn triplets at the moment. What the hell do you do when you just want sleep answers but are not sure there are any?

I swear at teh moment I am sliding down a slippery slope. I'm so knackered. House is getting away from me and keeps slipping further and further and my apathy grows. I fly off the handle at the kids for next to nothing, my fuse is so short. It just feels like depression creeping back in but I'd be willing to bet the house that it is just that I'm so tired. Except I'm not just tired, I'm tired and growing a new human and scarily soon I will have a newborn and I will be bf and I will be dealing with usual newborn sleep deprivation on top of a daughter who gets me out of bed 10 times a night and pretty mcuh refuses to go back to sleep properly after 5am and it will be me who has to deal with it all because dh works away. I feel like a pretty good case for AND and PND right now.

Half term soon thank fuck. Dh has the week off and he'll be taking teh dcs to his mum's for a couple of nights. I intend to live off chocolate and takeaway and not move from the sofa.

Yes cake. With you on the sleep deprivation. It is DS who is causing the most problems, although DD wakes up 2-3 times a night she settles down fairly quick with the boob though have had a few nights when she has been hard to settle in the early hours. DS is being a nightmare though, getting out of bed and into our bed and then wriggling about so much no-one gets any sleep, DH ends up sleeping with him in DS's bed and so everyone is bloody knackered!
All I can say is good job I have low housekeeping standards!
BTW any chance you could bring me those nappies?
Do you want to wait until DD out grows all the clothes you gave me before I return them to you? She is currently in 3-6mo clothes but I expect I'll be moving her up a size by November!
Probably would be best if I drop them off at your house one weekend as it is a big bag.

How old is DD again Indith?

oh Indith you sound bloody knackered, and it is no surprise. If it is any comfort I have had a few meltdowns recently and I only have to deal with DS2 who is being a little git with sleep I would be suicidal if I had all the night wakes (I'm not being flippant- I really would) I've been coping with DD but feel like I'm neglecting DS1 who has been watching an awful lot of tv before and after school. When the pair of them are together I have been shouty mum- they have been fighting non-stop.

It is an extreme option but I used sedatives with DS1. They are controversial but I was at my wits end and they were prescribed by my GP. We used them for a couple of days every fortnight and it gave me enough sleep to cope with the rest of the wakes. I lived for those 2 days He didn't sleep through completely but woke less often and went back to sleep with a pat and a sush which made all the difference. Would you consider that? (apologies if you already have) He was her age when we used them (and younger) We were able to stop when he had his tonsils out.

Can I pick you up tomorrow? Then you wouldn't have to drive and as I'm only bringing DS2 there would be car seat for D if she is coming. Would be happy to leave when you wanted so don't feel you had to stay longer than you wanted. It might be a bit more of a rest for you that way?

damn, can't find my mobile- if someone has Indith number can they 1) remind her of cake 2)ask if she wants a lift instead of driving herself.

just caught back up with this thread... How are you Indith? Look, despite being busy just on that one Friday, I'm not normally. And definitely more than happy to (a) mind children while you do whatever or (b) go around hoovering/mopping/tidying. I was an excellent chamber maid for one summer, so I'm dead good at it.

Please take me up on the offer if you're still feeling down. It's nice to be in a position to lend a hand for once.

or (c) just provide tea and sympathy. Whatever you want really!

You lot are lovely.

Dd sort of slept last night, feeling a bit more perky this morning and a bit of use to the world after helping out at the hospital bf workshop :) I am going to take dd to the GP though, the worst they can do is think I'm a lunatic.

Kara I've got a 3-6 snowsuit and a 0-3 that is actually slightly bigger than the 3-6. One pink with white furry bits and one brown with pink buttons and stitching. Both with the mitts that button on.

Leggy sorry didn't get back to you about pool pick up, got news while on meet-up that my gran was in hospital so went straight home after to find out what was going on. Keeping tomorrow free so I can go see her if she comes round. Any time during the week in the day that you are definitely at home? Otherwise can do Monday evening as dh will still be at home.

I have so much stuff! Got people coming to do cavity wall insulation and re-do the eaves space in the loft so I am filthy dirty half way through piling everything form the loft into one corner out of the way of the eaves, there is so much of it! Part of me cannot wait to have this baby born so I can start getting rid of it. Gumtree watch out.

Indith - how is your Granny? I would really consider SLF's kind offer.
And those snowsuits will be great thank you, need to sort out when to pick up will have to be after I get back off holiday I think, a week on Wednesday.

Spiggy - yep I too am shouty mum with DS

My great Aunt died wee hours of this morning. Everything is sorted, another of her nieces is taking charge of the funeral arrangements on Tuesday.

Kara I'm sorry about your aunt.

Granny is unconscious. She had a brain scan and has damage to teh frontal lobe so there is nothing to do but wait and see if she ever wakes up really but if she does chances are she will be, well, not exactly with it. I think we are all pretty much hoping she just fades away in the next couple of days. She was already unable to walk anywhere and slipping into dementia.

Sorry to hear about your great aunt, Kara. Did you manage to get hold of your mum to tell her what was happening? Indith, I hope your Granny gets to go peacefully.

In addition to slf's offer- I was wondering if D would like to come and play on a Mon or Tues? H would enjoy having someone to play with. I could pick her up in the morning and drop her off in the afternoon while you have the chance to have a kip. I like it when I have a plan for the day so it would probably make for an easier day for me as well! If you had had a particularly bad night with D you could just drop me a message on FB (I don't always have my mobile on) and I could come round and collect her.

A good GP won't think you are a luntatic- they will listen to an experienced mum who knows that something isn't right. It might be worth asking if sleep apnoea is a possibility.

Yeah I let her know. Was annoyed as apparently the carer should not have contacted my mum, she should have contacted her cousin who was doing the funeral arrangements (they knew my aunt was going down hill rapidly).
I get what you mean about your Granny, Indith, my Great Aunt had virtually no quality of life, no dementia but she couldn't walk, speak or feed herself and was completely bed bound and doubly incontinent :(

Kara and Indith sorry about your aunt and gran. It is a weird position emotion wise when you feel it would be kinder if someone passed. I remember when the family got the call about my grandad dying, everyone was sad but mostly relieved as he had been ill years. we all felt wrong for not crying!

Ah what a bad few time people are having! Makes me feel less worried about a work backlog and grant deadlines on top of teaching! (Although said combination is my excuse for being crap lately).

It's always so wierd when a relative is in that way; when Gran died, after years of alzheimers it was a relief but also the first time that I was able to mourn the loss of my lovely grandmother who I hadn't really seen in her eyes in years. But knowing her, she would also have been perfectly okay with us having those mixed feelings.

I know it's early in the day, but I have an appointment to get a dressing changed at 10.30 next Monday if anyone fancies brunch at 9 or so? It clashes with LLL and then I have to leg-it to Stockton for teaching but I could skive off guilt free until then!

I can most likely do that Leggy. Dh is most likely taking dcs to Leeds on Sunday so I shall be both child free and car free but 9 works for the bus. If his dad turns out ot be busy Sunday then they won't go until MOnday in which case I will be running around reminding dh to take nappies, dd's hair brush, their bedtime cuddly toys and so on. For some reason (propbably easily explained by his being male) he is still not capable of leaving the house with children and everything he needs, even a trip to the park needs me to say "snack, drink, tissues, spare pants, coat.."

Granny is slowly coming round. Apparently she is babbling away at times about things that happened years ago, reliving things I suppose as her brain tries to process everything. Not sure if that is a good thing or not really until we know quite how much of her we will be getting back. We will be visiting on Saturday though all being well and at least dh has next week off so we can go again.

Some of the rather less desirable effects of pregnancy have landed. I would rather like to fast forward to February!

Hi, just checking in to see how you all are doing. Really sorry to hear about your Great Aunt Kara and your Granny Indith. My Granny's just last week gone full time into a care home, also with dementia. It's a cruel way to go (her parents were exactly the same too, which doesn't exactly bode well).

Indith the offer still stands of any help which I can offer. Absolutely no need (or excuse!) to suffer in silence!! Monday is out for me I think with the DDs on half term, but sounds very nice and civilised (is surely breakfast rather than brunch at that time tho!). Is SPB around? Not spotted her on the threads for a bit...

Thanks slf. I have dh off all next week and a Dr appointment for dd so hopefully things will be rather brighter. Of course we still expect to see you for cake shortly. The dd's would be very welcome too on Monday.

SPB is around, she is wearing her halloween guise and dripping pools of blood around. I saw her not too long ago, think she is mostly buried in work, job hunting and various things.

aha, it is obviously a very good disguise! Hope the appt for DD is helpful.

I am such a bloody dimwit. My parents are staying over Sunday night and I've yet to learn what time they plan to leave so may not be free before my appt after all. Will confirm tomorrow hopefully.

That said, maybe I should just stick the damn box in the car and come over for coffee one afternoon?!

Don't worry about it Leggy. I'm planning on heading into Durham anyway to get a few things done so if you are going to be around just give me a yell, if not don't worry.

Coffee is always good (well ok I don't drink coffee but hot chocolate is always good). I make reasonable cake given enough warning.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/meetups/1330161-Durham-Christmas-Meal Time to get sorted! Please get hunting our stragglers down and bumping the thread. If we leave it too late we'll end up having curry again. Not that there is anything wrong with curry (balti special garlic with more garlic chicken and garlic anyone?). Good job they always seem to have room for us.

Dd saw the Dr today who listened, looked in her mouth and said she has huge tonsils. She is being referred to a Paed. Fingers crossed! It could take a couple of months for an appointment though and who knows how long after that but at least it is started!

Woo hoo Indith! Not that DD has huge tonsils but that there was something there and something could be done- I was thinking about what you said about her always sleeping on her front as that is an indicator of possible tonsil problems- they can block the throat when lying on your back. We had our ENT appointment on Tues and they have agreed to take H's tonsils and adenoids out. I didn't even have to play the snoring I'd recorded. 2-3 month wait here but they have difficulties getting people to agree to Christmas week so we might get in then. (DS1 was done the day before Christmas Eve).