The Final Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp Weigh-in!

[BIWI]

Morning all!

Today is our last official weigh-in. Come and declare all on the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

I hope it's a good result!

And I hope that everyone has done well over the Bootcamp.

Don't despair that it's the end, though! We will keep a chat thread going, and the spreadsheet is always there, so that there is support for all of us who continue to struggle with our inner gobbler low carb.

There are still 5 weeks till Christmas, so time to shed a few more pounds before the big day ...

to you all

[tenementfunster]

ah thanks..yes i do, but i don't remember what password is!

[LilyAmaryllis]

I've managed to avoid cheese, cream and nuts (oooh such treats) for 2 days and gratifyingly this morning's scales were down by 2 kg. (I'd been on a right stay-the-same for a while, due to cheats and treats.) Just nice to know the sts isn't permanent, and maybe, just maybe, I will actually make it to normal BMI before christmas!

[nappyaddict]

BIWI On Google if you type in the search bar "carbs in ...." It comes up with the carb count for virtually everything. It says it gets it's information from the United States Department of Agriculture though. Don't they work out the carb values differently to us in the USA?

[nappyaddict]

For example it lists Spinach like this:

Total Carbohydrate 3.6 g
Dietary fiber 2.2 g
Sugar 0.4 g

So for us in the UK is is 3.6-(2.2+0.4)= 1?

[Mary2010xx]

Lily, they are my undoing - cheese and nuts (and on bad days nuts and raisins). I need to get started properly and without having those. I am probably the only person in England who can eat 100% whole good foods and still put on weight.

[Mary2010xx]

Could someone remind me where on mumsnet are the rules for BIWI's way of eating?

[BIWI]

If you go to the spreadsheet, Mary, and look at the tabs on the bottom, you'll find Bootcamp rules there.

(Link to the spreadsheet is in my OP)

[BIWI]

nappy - I haven't really a clue how the Americans work it out! I only use sites that are UK-based.

But - even having said that - carb counts can vary enormously, and I've never understood why.

[BIWI]

BTW - Mary are you a namechanger, or a newbie?!

[Mary2010xx]

Thanks. I will find that now.

Newbie in terms of not having been on the spreadsheet before, although I've been reading the threads and did lose a bit of weight earlier this year. [Thanks]
I've also eaten largely paleo/primal for a few years or two on and off (mostly on) and it makes me feel very good. However I need to shift the last stone or possibly two stone.

The New Year is probably going to be the better time to start seriously, but I will keep eating what I call "clean" through Christmas and try not to keep eating nuts, cheese etc in the afternoon when not hungry (like today).

[whodunnit]

Just had my first mindful and very enjoyable carby cheating session, aka a Thai meal followed by deelicious creme caramel & ice cream and washed down with wine and a cocktail. Enjoyed every mouthful. Now just remind me what happens next, based on me not jumping up and down on my phone now I have deliberately dropped it. Lots of water and a very careful couple of days, is that right?

[sybilfaulty]

Morning, LC friends!

Glad we are all sticking to the rules after a fashion. WHodunnit, you are exactly right, lots of water, have a strict couple of days and you will be fine. Have managed to resist 95% of the food treats over the last week, thought I have had a bit of wine and the tummy shows it! Still, it would be easy to think sod it and have treats etc constantly on the basis that I can start again in January. Given that I can easily put on 10lb in 3 weeks (real lbs, not just bloat lb) I think it best to stay as straight and narrow as possible.

Have a lovely Sunday everyone. Pedi and CHristmas tree for me.

[nappyaddict]

BIWI What UK sites do you use?

[nappyaddict]

Also what type of beansprouts are listed on the veg counter? I was only wondering because this website lists the carb count for mung beansprouts as 4, where as the spreadsheet says 16.

[nappyaddict]

Sorry a couple more things:

Can anyone explain the vast differences in beetroot carb counts. Beetroot, raw, 100g is only 4.6
Beetroot, pickled, drained, 100g is 5.6 - both of these aren't too carby. However Beetroot, boiled, 100g is a whopping 9.5!! I don't understand because to pickle beetroot don't you have to boil it first?

Also BIWI Do you eat butternut squash/onion? I was always under the impression they were too carby but have just noticed them all the way at the bottom of the spreadsheet. For some reason I hadn't spotted them before, or they weren't on the older spreadsheets I had seen?

[sybilfaulty]

Nappy, I think you need to be careful with onions as its jolly easy to work through 3 in a recipe and suddenly that is 200g of onion for 16g carb. Many of us use echallion or banana shallots instead as they are much less carby.

I don't like butternut much so can't really help there although it tastes quite sweet - as do carrots and parsnips etc- so it probably is.

Hth.

[ImAnElfJeSuisUneElf]

Hi all, I was with you through the autumn, but have lost the plot carb-wise in recent weeks.

So, whens the New Year Bootcamp start?

[BIWI]

nappy - I don't use any particular sites, but I do check if they are UK or US.

Beansprouts are, I believe, relatively low carb - so I'll check those counts.

I don't eat butternut squash because I don't like it very much, it's hard to prepare, and it's high in carbs.

Onion is very high in carbs, not only for it's weight but also because it's a dense vegetable, so you don't get much for your 100g. I always try and substitute onion with echalion shallots for this reason.

Beetroot I try and avoid as it is carby. A clue here - any vegetable that tastes sweet is usually too carby!

Just stick to the list of what is and isn't allowed and you'll be fine

[Mary2010xx]

I also ceased eating butternut squash which I used to love at lunch time with loads of butter and also onions - both are high carb. They are obviously paleo, very good for you and healthy but if you want to lose weight they will not be good although a lot better than junk food.

I had cheese earlier which I was trying to avoid but otherwise okay, better than yesterday - no nuts and raisins, no sultanas, no bananas or other fruit. My bday doesn't like cheese anyway - it makes my throat swell but I suppose I just felt I needed the kick it seems to give me, it's a sort of sugar kick somehow and I get all hot just like after having sugar. Clearly I need to lay off it.

[BIWI]

There is no problem with cheese on a low carb diet!

[Mary2010xx]

I know but it is the only food I will eat and eat even if not hungry (and for me I am obviously slightly allergic to it too so I think it's better if I don't have). The reason I had it today was instead of reaching for bananas and raisins this afternoon so yes I agree it is fine for most people.

[captainmummy]

When is the new Bootcamp BIWI? I've put on a few pounds (Mainly from french bread and croissants last weekend) and feel fat and bloated.

I can't even face christmas food (which is good) although mary tesco have big half-wheel stiltons for only £4! I've eaten half of that in 2 days (Although it does sound as if you are slightly allergic to it! )

lily well done on 2KG loss! that's amazing.

[LilyAmaryllis]

Cheese is low-carb... but Dr. Briffa's book says that dairy products stimulate insulin production. (carbs lead to insulin leads to fat being deposited). However he says they also stimulate glucagon, which counteracts the effects of insulin.

So I think of cheese and cream as having a neutral effect - and one that might encourage a stay-the-same-weight.

I LOVE cheese and couldn't get further than about 2 days without it - and couldn't stay on this WOE longterm without it. But I guess there is a reason you've designed a dairy-free Ubercamp BIWI.

I have gone v. moderate on the cheese and stopped cream this week, and have had a really good week's loss. Now down to 11 stone 8 (1lb off normal BMI) and actually a whole stone off since 9th September! I actually feel a bit sheepish sharing this as I don't want to annoy people happily relaxing before Christmas. In fact I am considering a cheese board of nice cheeses to be something I can enjoy as a Christmas treat.

[Mary2010xx]

I try to keep off cheese. I some of us just have genetics which mean we aren't great with dairy products and other people don't so it's just a personal thing.

[BerylStreep]

I suspect I shouldn't eat as much cheese as I do. My Mum seems to be quite diary intolerant, and always feels loads better when she cuts it out of her diet.

I think the less said about my diet over the last few weeks, the better. I have had a rotten cold though, and craved carbs for comfort.