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Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - The Preparation Thread

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BIWI · 03/09/2013 18:15

So it looks like a whole host of us have signed up Grin

Some of you will be new to low carbing, others may have done it before but might need a bit of a reminder.

Certainly it is always good to start planning beforehand, so we can all get off to the best possible start.

Here goes:

For the whole of Bootcamp these are foods that you should not eat:

bread
rice
pasta/noodles
potatoes
flour
pastry
sugar
chocolate/sweets
biscuits/cookies
crisps

Beyond this there are only ten rules of Bootcamp. The idea behind this is to make it easy to follow - so no counting carbs and no weighing of anything. That said, it never does any harm for you to know how many carbs are in an average portion of anything, so you might want to weigh some of your portions to start with - but Bootcamp isn't about obsessive weighing and counting - it is supposed to be about normal and enjoyable eating.

The ten rules of Bootcamp are:

1. You must eat breakfast.
It doesn?t have to be a lot, and it doesn?t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ?if you are hungry, eat!?. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, bacon, pre-prepared burgers, Pepperami etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars. These products contain all manner of artificial ingredients, and often contain sugar. You should always check the carb counts of these foods if you are including them, as some of them can be surprisingly high (e.g. Tesco Chargrilled Burgers - per burger, fried, have 5.4g carbs)

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body?s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first).

Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carbs per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it.

Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from carblife . Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be

Your Weight--Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada

After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later, when we move into Bootcamp Light - it can be too easy to start snacking on these, and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in Bootcamp - don't do it to yourself!

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ?no no?, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended.

Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

Allowed Veg

Look at the tabs on the bottom of the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness for these

The general rule of thumb is to focus on choosing veg that is 3g carbs per 100g; others, like onions, are allowed (because they are such a versatile veg), but are quite carby if you use too much.

Weighing

It's up to you how often you weigh - although Monday morning is our usual weigh-in day.

You can enter your weight in pounds or kilos on the spreadsheet. There is a useful converter on there as well. Or, if you prefer, you can index your weight. Your starting weight will be 100, and for every pound you lose, drop by one point.

Some people like to weigh daily, as they feel that it helps to keep them on track. This is fine, but remember that your weight naturally fluctuates on a day-by-day basis and can be affected by all kinds of things, especially your menstrual cycle. If you can't cope with seeing the scales show no change, or a slight increase, then don't do it to yourself! Far better to weigh just once a week.

The other thing to realise is that you can lose inches whilst the scales may show no change. I have no idea why! So it's a good idea to take your measurements before you start.

Or, find an item of clothing that is too tight right now, and keep trying that on every week. Our clothes are the most accurate way of monitoring weight loss.

Keep a food diary

It's really useful to do this. Keep an honest, accurate record of everything that you're eating and drinking, and annotate this with your weight. This way you will be able to look back and see what helped or hindered your progress. Mark on it if/when you have taken any exercise as well.

Be aware of carb flu

Some people find that the first few days of low carbing can be quite tough - you may feel headachey, tired and irritable - as if you are going down with the flu. Not everyone gets this, but a lot of people do. Things you can do to help:

  • try cutting down on your carbs over the next few days, before you eliminate all the key suspects; a gradual cutting down may help you (especially if you are a real carboholic!)
  • once we start Bootcamp, make sure that you are drinking plenty of water and eating plenty of fat
  • keep your electrolyte levels up. The key things you need to ensure you are eating are sodium, potassium and magnesium. Good sources of these foods are salmon, avocado and spinach. And make sure you're eating plenty of salt. Along with fat, this is something else that seems counter-intuitive! Try making a hot drink out of an Oxo cube, or Marmite/Bovril.
  • don't struggle on - if you have a headache, take some paracetamol (but avoid ibuprofen as this can impact on weight loss)

Do some reading about low carbing

There are loads of great resources on the Spreadsheet - links to websites, blogs and videos. Reading/watching these will help you to understand the science behind low carbing. This is important as you will soon find people questioning what you're eating/why you're eating so much fat, etc. You need to feel confident yourself that it's the right thing to do, but you also need to be able to answer those who will try and scoff at your diet.

Plan, plan, plan

This is not a WOE that is easy without forward planning. Especially if your day involves you needing to eat when you are out and about. Know where you can buy food from if you're on the go (Marks & Spender Simply Food is usually a good bet), or make sure that you have something to eat with you.

You will certainly, until you get into the swing of cooking low carb meals, need to think ahead about what you're going to cook, and to make sure that you have plenty of low carb foods in the house.

The recipe thread has some great and easy low carb things to cook . Feel free to add your own recipes - with carb counts if at all possible!

Hopefully all this will help. No doubt I've forgotten something Grin but if you have any questions, just ask.

I will set up a different thread each week, and I will also set up a separate question thread. From experience, the chat thread moves pretty quickly, so a separate question thread is a good place if there's something you really need to know.

There are lots of us who will be on Bootcamp who have been low carbing for a while now, so if you are in any doubt about anything, please ask.

Good luck everyone.

OP posts:
prettybird · 07/09/2013 13:35

Talk to your butcher and ask him to keep aside some pork belly pieces/slices. They tend to use them for sausages - but with notice will keep them to sell separately. Smile

ImATotJeSuisUneTot · 07/09/2013 14:38

Been to my local market this morning to stock up on meat and veg. Its huge, with loads of choice, and loads of bargains. Had a really nice morning. Is that a bit sad? Grin

The meat counters there are amazing - 6 huge sirloin steaks for twenty quid, but you got loads of meat free when you bought them - gammon, chicken, lamb chops. So impressed.

None of the veg stalls had any mushrooms though - something to do with the weather they said. Had to go to Asda for them on the way back - kind of killed my organic earth mama buzz that!

Am excited for Monday - I lost 6.5lbs my first week,(started 2 weeks ago) but a 24hr hospital stay with DD2, where I ate nothing, seems to have stalled me this week.

Purple2012 · 07/09/2013 14:39

My salads are very green (dont worry lots of fat and protein with them?) What can I use to make them more colourful and interesting? I can't eat tomatoes. Would peppers be ok?

ImATotJeSuisUneTot · 07/09/2013 14:40

I ordered some ketostix too.

StuntNun · 07/09/2013 14:42

Sounds good MsInga!

Purple green peppers are the lowest carbs. What about cucumber, radishes or celery?

StuntNun · 07/09/2013 14:43

Or avocado?

Purple2012 · 07/09/2013 14:46

I do have cucumber. But its just all so green. At the moment I am eating lots of salad and frittatas. There are other things I want to try but need to stock up on some stuff first so I have all the ingredients I need.

PassTheTwiglets · 07/09/2013 14:51

I can live without the pasta/bread etc. but it's the no fruit that bothers me. How can this possibly be healthy? I know it was said that all the vits & mins you need can come from veg but I find that v.unlikely...

StuntNun · 07/09/2013 14:56

Twiglets I take a supplement as well just to be sure but you would be surprised at how much vitamins and minerals there are in vegetables.

prettybird · 07/09/2013 15:00

After the first two weeks you can have some berries - so you can have fruit, just not too much.

PassTheTwiglets · 07/09/2013 15:03

Has anyone had success doing only Bootcamp Lite?

prettybird · 07/09/2013 15:15

The principle is that you need the first two weeks of "strict" Boot Camp to help you break the carb addiction.

I suppose you could do it on Boot Camp Lite but it'll be harder in the long run.

After the 1st 2 weeks, most people who are still wanting to lose weight seem to follow Boot Camp most of the time and Boot Camp Lite at weekends/special occasions.

That's not to say you don't have planned cheats - but do so mindfully, savor what you are eating and then drink plenty of water and get back to this WoE.

If you have started off properly, it's amazing how often you can say to yourself that you don't really want "x carby thing". Wink

caughtintheact · 07/09/2013 15:26

thanks for answering my q BIWI, really interesting links. I don't know how you keep up with these threads!

BIWI · 07/09/2013 15:31

PassTheTwiglets - it is absolutely true that vegetables and salad will provide you with the same nutrition as fruit. Honestly. But they don't have the same amount of sugar (generally) that fruit does. And that is why fruit is not encouraged when you're low carbing.

The idea behind Bootcamp, i.e. the first two weeks, is not just to get yo low carbing, it is also to break the hold that sugar and sweet things have over us, hence why fruit is not allowed during these two weeks. After these two weeks, you can introduce lower sugar fruits if you really want to.

You really do need to embrace this WOE (way of eating) if it is to work for you.

But please, please, please - read some of the resources on the spreadsheet (look at the tabs across the bottom) so that you can understand where we're coming from and why Bootcamp is constructed the way that it is.

There is method in my madness Grin

OP posts:
BIWI · 07/09/2013 15:32

caughtintheact - neither do I!

OP posts:
Purple2012 · 07/09/2013 15:56

I intend to boot camp most of the time with the odd planned treat. Although it may be the first time I have carby food it will make me feel like crap so won't want to do it again. I feel so much better now, less bloated, less hungry, lighter that I can imagine that if I did eat high carb stuff it would take all that good feeling away. If I do introduce more carbs it will be good carbs. I do miss crusty white bread though. But if I really want it one day I will have it. Not craving it yet though.

pixiegumboot · 07/09/2013 17:23

Thanks for all the info - so tea (black) is OK to make up some of your water allowance for the day?

nilbyname · 07/09/2013 17:48

I had the most delicious salad...

Fried off some slices of chorizo and when they were done, i put on a small cube of feta, stuck a lid on it, let it go all soft and melty.

Then had a bag of mixed leaves, some red onion slivers, cucumber, olives and then a basic french vinegarette with some added chilli flakes, throw all together and top with the chorizo and feta, delish!!

loopyloou · 07/09/2013 20:09

Nilby, that sounds lovely Smile

HavantGuard · 07/09/2013 21:19

www.health-alternatives.com/vegetables-nutrition-chart.html
www.health-alternatives.com/fruit-nutrition-chart.html

You'll be surprised. Eating this way you get your 5 a day from vegetables. Probably more like 7 a day for me! A morning frittata with spinach and mushrooms in it, a lunchtime salad with mixed green leaves and cucumber, broccoli and cauliflower as vegetables with dinner. I think we've come to see eating fruit as healthy full stop but sugar is sugar. Yes, it comes with fibre and vitamins, but it's still sugar.

When I reintroduce some fruit it's going to be mainly berries up to twice a week, not the two portions a day I was on. I'm never going back to having juices and smoothies.
www.theguardian.com/society/2013/sep/07/smoothies-fruit-juices-new-health-risk

Cocoaone · 08/09/2013 08:58

Eating cherries for breakfast as they need to be gone by tomorrow.

So glad the season is changing and it'll just be boring apples and pears in the shops. They aren't as tempting!

PassTheTwiglets · 08/09/2013 09:05

Can I ask why you can't cook with olive oil instead of butter (both are carb-free, aren't they)

Also, sure I'm being thick here but where is the allowed veg list? On the spreadsheet I can see aloowed foods (but no veg listed) or veg carb counter - doesn't say whether these are allowed or not, just lists the carbs. TIA!

catinboots · 08/09/2013 09:06

Can I come back please?

Are we starting tomorrow?

Ruprekt · 08/09/2013 09:34

yep.....bootcamp starts tomorrow

ZingWantsCake · 08/09/2013 10:18

morning all.

I started drinking more water 2 weeks ago and just by increasing water intake I've already lost 4lbs!
(yes, there's a threadSmile)

but I think it would be interesting to start a new way of eating too - so as one of you suggested I will increase the protein intake instead of cutting all carbs out and see what happens.
so my personal challenge is to eat either one meal/day totally carb-free or very low carb meals twice a day.
I think I can manage that.

so today for breakfast I fried some mushrooms, bacon, chopped up celery and spring onions, then added a bit of cream at the end.
I ate it with a salad of lambs lettuce, rocket, tomatoes and drizzled a bit of ranch sauce and some sunflower seeds* on top.

is that a reasonable low carb meal?

(*I'm guessing these are no good for bootcamp, sorry everyone)

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