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Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - The Preparation Thread

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BIWI · 03/09/2013 18:15

So it looks like a whole host of us have signed up Grin

Some of you will be new to low carbing, others may have done it before but might need a bit of a reminder.

Certainly it is always good to start planning beforehand, so we can all get off to the best possible start.

Here goes:

For the whole of Bootcamp these are foods that you should not eat:

bread
rice
pasta/noodles
potatoes
flour
pastry
sugar
chocolate/sweets
biscuits/cookies
crisps

Beyond this there are only ten rules of Bootcamp. The idea behind this is to make it easy to follow - so no counting carbs and no weighing of anything. That said, it never does any harm for you to know how many carbs are in an average portion of anything, so you might want to weigh some of your portions to start with - but Bootcamp isn't about obsessive weighing and counting - it is supposed to be about normal and enjoyable eating.

The ten rules of Bootcamp are:

1. You must eat breakfast.
It doesn?t have to be a lot, and it doesn?t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ?if you are hungry, eat!?. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, bacon, pre-prepared burgers, Pepperami etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars. These products contain all manner of artificial ingredients, and often contain sugar. You should always check the carb counts of these foods if you are including them, as some of them can be surprisingly high (e.g. Tesco Chargrilled Burgers - per burger, fried, have 5.4g carbs)

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body?s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first).

Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carbs per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it.

Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from carblife . Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be

Your Weight--Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada

After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later, when we move into Bootcamp Light - it can be too easy to start snacking on these, and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in Bootcamp - don't do it to yourself!

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ?no no?, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended.

Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

Allowed Veg

Look at the tabs on the bottom of the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness for these

The general rule of thumb is to focus on choosing veg that is 3g carbs per 100g; others, like onions, are allowed (because they are such a versatile veg), but are quite carby if you use too much.

Weighing

It's up to you how often you weigh - although Monday morning is our usual weigh-in day.

You can enter your weight in pounds or kilos on the spreadsheet. There is a useful converter on there as well. Or, if you prefer, you can index your weight. Your starting weight will be 100, and for every pound you lose, drop by one point.

Some people like to weigh daily, as they feel that it helps to keep them on track. This is fine, but remember that your weight naturally fluctuates on a day-by-day basis and can be affected by all kinds of things, especially your menstrual cycle. If you can't cope with seeing the scales show no change, or a slight increase, then don't do it to yourself! Far better to weigh just once a week.

The other thing to realise is that you can lose inches whilst the scales may show no change. I have no idea why! So it's a good idea to take your measurements before you start.

Or, find an item of clothing that is too tight right now, and keep trying that on every week. Our clothes are the most accurate way of monitoring weight loss.

Keep a food diary

It's really useful to do this. Keep an honest, accurate record of everything that you're eating and drinking, and annotate this with your weight. This way you will be able to look back and see what helped or hindered your progress. Mark on it if/when you have taken any exercise as well.

Be aware of carb flu

Some people find that the first few days of low carbing can be quite tough - you may feel headachey, tired and irritable - as if you are going down with the flu. Not everyone gets this, but a lot of people do. Things you can do to help:

  • try cutting down on your carbs over the next few days, before you eliminate all the key suspects; a gradual cutting down may help you (especially if you are a real carboholic!)
  • once we start Bootcamp, make sure that you are drinking plenty of water and eating plenty of fat
  • keep your electrolyte levels up. The key things you need to ensure you are eating are sodium, potassium and magnesium. Good sources of these foods are salmon, avocado and spinach. And make sure you're eating plenty of salt. Along with fat, this is something else that seems counter-intuitive! Try making a hot drink out of an Oxo cube, or Marmite/Bovril.
  • don't struggle on - if you have a headache, take some paracetamol (but avoid ibuprofen as this can impact on weight loss)

Do some reading about low carbing

There are loads of great resources on the Spreadsheet - links to websites, blogs and videos. Reading/watching these will help you to understand the science behind low carbing. This is important as you will soon find people questioning what you're eating/why you're eating so much fat, etc. You need to feel confident yourself that it's the right thing to do, but you also need to be able to answer those who will try and scoff at your diet.

Plan, plan, plan

This is not a WOE that is easy without forward planning. Especially if your day involves you needing to eat when you are out and about. Know where you can buy food from if you're on the go (Marks & Spender Simply Food is usually a good bet), or make sure that you have something to eat with you.

You will certainly, until you get into the swing of cooking low carb meals, need to think ahead about what you're going to cook, and to make sure that you have plenty of low carb foods in the house.

The recipe thread has some great and easy low carb things to cook . Feel free to add your own recipes - with carb counts if at all possible!

Hopefully all this will help. No doubt I've forgotten something Grin but if you have any questions, just ask.

I will set up a different thread each week, and I will also set up a separate question thread. From experience, the chat thread moves pretty quickly, so a separate question thread is a good place if there's something you really need to know.

There are lots of us who will be on Bootcamp who have been low carbing for a while now, so if you are in any doubt about anything, please ask.

Good luck everyone.

OP posts:
Purple2012 · 08/09/2013 20:14

I do plan. I usually prepare the next days lunch the night before. If im a late shift I do it on the day. I am just a bit fed up I think. I have spent so long with food being such a big deal! I used to count calories and fat. Now its carbs. My next couple of days off are manic again but going to try to find time to get to the shops and sort out kitchen cupboards so I have everything to hand. Will go through the recipe books and mark out everything I like the look of and do a list.

I will be ok in a couple of days. Just a bit tired, teasy and suffering a bit of back pain. Off to bed soon.

loopyloou · 08/09/2013 20:29

Purple, I don't count carbs or anything, I don't think you need to. At first I pinned up a list of allowed veg (under 5g carbs) so I knew what I could eat and that was it. I think as long as you remember the general rules of no wheat, no oats, no sugar, no potatoes or rice, you will lose weight Smile Don't stress about it though. (Sorry BIWI if I'm simplifying this too much.)

Maybe you could try one new recipe a week, so it doesn't feel like a huge task? I do my (vague) meal planning/shopping list whilst I'm having breakfast, as I have to sit down at the table anyway, I might as well have a recipe book and pen and paper in front of me.

Lavenderhoney · 08/09/2013 20:48

Lowering the tone somewhat:) but I am having the last glass bottle of wine before kickoff tomorrow:)

I can feel the breeze from BIWI twirling her big stick in anticipation...

Good luck, fellow losers!:)

Negroni · 08/09/2013 21:13

cocoa and kuke obviously don't put your weight down on the sheet if you don't want to but from previous bootcamp I never really looked at anyone else's weight on the sheet. It just helped me personally as i did not want to have to put in a higher number the following week, so having it in black and white was a real incentive. Also am just not used to knowing what weights in pounds mean - have previously only worked in stones and pounds not pounds only, so for example 175 or 220 or any other number don't mean anything to me.

Also only notice other people's weight when they announce what they have lost in an actual post and I usually find that very encouraging. This is a very supportive thread and I really enjoyed being on the last one!

Purple Don't stress too much about recipes, just think up some simple things you can make as low carb meals and plan to eat for first few days e.g. Chicken drumsticks plus dressed salad; eggs- scrambled, fried, boiled with added butter, plus a slice of bacon; tuna and mayo with lettuce leaves, lamb chops and brocolli; some fried courgette and aubergine with some grated cheese; fried pork steak plus spinach with butter. Snacks: celery and cream cheese, some full fat yoghurt with low carb count, chicken drumstick, a boiled egg etc!

prettybird · 08/09/2013 21:25

I've just been delighted to find out that runner beans are only 2.3g carbs per 100g even though they are a legume - especially as I have a glut of them in the garden. Smile

Lightly boiled and finished off with some butter. Lovely. Grin

Cocoaone · 08/09/2013 21:32

Thanks everyone - I'm not fussed about putting my weight on the sheet, was just checking about whether it was required here too.

Negroni - I'm the same - it's good to have some accountability!

Have just prepped enough boiled eggs, fried mushrooms, and Cajun chicken salad to last me three days, plus lamb chops ready for dinner. Let's do this!!

aftermay · 08/09/2013 21:50

I started 10 days ago but not very consistently. Tomorrow's the day. Strength everyone!

BIWI · 08/09/2013 22:12

Purple2012 - the whole idea of Bootcamp is that you don't have to count anything! Honestly! It will make it so much easier for you. You can relax, stop stressing about it and just enjoy your food.

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prettybird · 08/09/2013 22:20

There are lots of lovely ideas on the Low Carb/Boot Camp recipe thread.

You can also get inspiration from what people post about their daily menus (not a compulsory part of Boot Camp but some people find it helps keep them on the straight and narrow).

It also helps to stop thinking in the old clichés of what you should have for breakfast, lunch or dinner. For example, leftovers are fine for breakfast.

encyclogirl · 08/09/2013 22:46

So excited to get this started finally! I started early and low carbed all week, but kind of blew it today. I really need to get some structure around my eating once and for frigging all!

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PassTheTwiglets · 08/09/2013 23:26

Sorry, can I check about the veg? Am I right in thinking that you can eat any veg from the 'veg carb counter' list, even if it is above3g but that you should try to stick to 3G or below?

Maryz · 08/09/2013 23:26

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BIWI · 09/09/2013 00:06

PassTheTwiglets - stick to those that are 3g of carbs per 100g as much as you can. You can have other veg, but be mindful of how many carbs they have. If in doubt - weigh them. I know that I always say that Bootcamp isn't about weighing/counting, but if you're going 'off piste' it's wise to know what you're doing!

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PassTheTwiglets · 09/09/2013 05:51

I don't drink hot drinks so is there anything I can drink other than water? I am going to really struggle without my diet fizzy drinks (though I know they're not healthy, of course).

Purple2012 · 09/09/2013 06:12

Just weighed myself. I haven't lost anything this week and im gutted. I have stayed the same so at least it hasn't gone up. It is only 5 days since I last weighed in but I have been really strict about carbs so a bit disappointed.

Chubfuddler · 09/09/2013 06:16

Right that's it. I know you've already started, I will just lurk and post when I catch up. I am IN. it's 15 weeks to Christmas Day and I want to lose 20 lbs by then in order to weigh, well, the least I will have done since I was a teenager.

I am doing this shit. No more excuses.

Chubfuddler · 09/09/2013 06:32
MrsHerculePoirot · 09/09/2013 06:36

Purple list your meals and we'll see if there is anything we can suggest to help. For me not enough water slows me, too much diary stalls me, eating late at night slows me down or not eating enough fat!

Purple2012 · 09/09/2013 06:43

A typical day is

Bf greek yoghurt and nuts- around 50g.
Lunch chicken and cheese frittata (half of one) and a couple of cheese sticks
Tea salad, lots of lettuce, , spinach, cucumber, spring onions and chicken or frittata.

Drinking as much water as possible. Still having diet coke but mainly water.

I should be changing breakfast when I get all the ingredients for flax muffins. I eat nuts for breakfast as I am just starting to eat meat so not eating a huge amount yet. Will be hopefully having flax muffins for breakfast soon.

Hoping its just a blip and it I be better next week.

Purple2012 · 09/09/2013 06:44

Oh, and I don't eat late at night.

Purple2012 · 09/09/2013 06:47

And I keep below 100g of cheese

StuntNun · 09/09/2013 07:05

Do you feel slimmer Purple? You may have lost fat without losing weight iykwim. Alternatively you could be eating too little fat.

bigkidsdidit · 09/09/2013 07:12

Bloody hell weighing myself was horrifying Shock I really overdid it this pregnancy!

prettybird · 09/09/2013 07:58

Purple : we had already expressed concern that you weren't eating enough fat. It seems counter-intuitive, but lack of fat could also cause a stall.