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Autumn Low Carb Bootcamp - The Preparation Thread

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BIWI · 03/09/2013 18:15

So it looks like a whole host of us have signed up Grin

Some of you will be new to low carbing, others may have done it before but might need a bit of a reminder.

Certainly it is always good to start planning beforehand, so we can all get off to the best possible start.

Here goes:

For the whole of Bootcamp these are foods that you should not eat:

bread
rice
pasta/noodles
potatoes
flour
pastry
sugar
chocolate/sweets
biscuits/cookies
crisps

Beyond this there are only ten rules of Bootcamp. The idea behind this is to make it easy to follow - so no counting carbs and no weighing of anything. That said, it never does any harm for you to know how many carbs are in an average portion of anything, so you might want to weigh some of your portions to start with - but Bootcamp isn't about obsessive weighing and counting - it is supposed to be about normal and enjoyable eating.

The ten rules of Bootcamp are:

1. You must eat breakfast.
It doesn?t have to be a lot, and it doesn?t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you?re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn?t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).

After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.

A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ?if you are hungry, eat!?. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

2. Avoid processed food
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals ? meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, bacon, pre-prepared burgers, Pepperami etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars. These products contain all manner of artificial ingredients, and often contain sugar. You should always check the carb counts of these foods if you are including them, as some of them can be surprisingly high (e.g. Tesco Chargrilled Burgers - per burger, fried, have 5.4g carbs)

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body?s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first).

Eat fattier cuts of meat ? e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3g carbs per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don?t have to weigh/count carbs ? this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you?re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you drink tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!)

You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it.

Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from carblife . Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be

Your Weight--Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead.

If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada

After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
Whilst these are really good to snack on later, when we move into Bootcamp Light - it can be too easy to start snacking on these, and before you know it, all your carbs have gone on nuts. Seriously - in Bootcamp - don't do it to yourself!

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ?no no?, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended.

Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

Allowed Veg

Look at the tabs on the bottom of the Spreadsheet of Wonderfulness for these

The general rule of thumb is to focus on choosing veg that is 3g carbs per 100g; others, like onions, are allowed (because they are such a versatile veg), but are quite carby if you use too much.

Weighing

It's up to you how often you weigh - although Monday morning is our usual weigh-in day.

You can enter your weight in pounds or kilos on the spreadsheet. There is a useful converter on there as well. Or, if you prefer, you can index your weight. Your starting weight will be 100, and for every pound you lose, drop by one point.

Some people like to weigh daily, as they feel that it helps to keep them on track. This is fine, but remember that your weight naturally fluctuates on a day-by-day basis and can be affected by all kinds of things, especially your menstrual cycle. If you can't cope with seeing the scales show no change, or a slight increase, then don't do it to yourself! Far better to weigh just once a week.

The other thing to realise is that you can lose inches whilst the scales may show no change. I have no idea why! So it's a good idea to take your measurements before you start.

Or, find an item of clothing that is too tight right now, and keep trying that on every week. Our clothes are the most accurate way of monitoring weight loss.

Keep a food diary

It's really useful to do this. Keep an honest, accurate record of everything that you're eating and drinking, and annotate this with your weight. This way you will be able to look back and see what helped or hindered your progress. Mark on it if/when you have taken any exercise as well.

Be aware of carb flu

Some people find that the first few days of low carbing can be quite tough - you may feel headachey, tired and irritable - as if you are going down with the flu. Not everyone gets this, but a lot of people do. Things you can do to help:

  • try cutting down on your carbs over the next few days, before you eliminate all the key suspects; a gradual cutting down may help you (especially if you are a real carboholic!)
  • once we start Bootcamp, make sure that you are drinking plenty of water and eating plenty of fat
  • keep your electrolyte levels up. The key things you need to ensure you are eating are sodium, potassium and magnesium. Good sources of these foods are salmon, avocado and spinach. And make sure you're eating plenty of salt. Along with fat, this is something else that seems counter-intuitive! Try making a hot drink out of an Oxo cube, or Marmite/Bovril.
  • don't struggle on - if you have a headache, take some paracetamol (but avoid ibuprofen as this can impact on weight loss)

Do some reading about low carbing

There are loads of great resources on the Spreadsheet - links to websites, blogs and videos. Reading/watching these will help you to understand the science behind low carbing. This is important as you will soon find people questioning what you're eating/why you're eating so much fat, etc. You need to feel confident yourself that it's the right thing to do, but you also need to be able to answer those who will try and scoff at your diet.

Plan, plan, plan

This is not a WOE that is easy without forward planning. Especially if your day involves you needing to eat when you are out and about. Know where you can buy food from if you're on the go (Marks & Spender Simply Food is usually a good bet), or make sure that you have something to eat with you.

You will certainly, until you get into the swing of cooking low carb meals, need to think ahead about what you're going to cook, and to make sure that you have plenty of low carb foods in the house.

The recipe thread has some great and easy low carb things to cook . Feel free to add your own recipes - with carb counts if at all possible!

Hopefully all this will help. No doubt I've forgotten something Grin but if you have any questions, just ask.

I will set up a different thread each week, and I will also set up a separate question thread. From experience, the chat thread moves pretty quickly, so a separate question thread is a good place if there's something you really need to know.

There are lots of us who will be on Bootcamp who have been low carbing for a while now, so if you are in any doubt about anything, please ask.

Good luck everyone.

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Collywibbles · 06/09/2013 15:53

Fab results good - you must be really chuffed!

starrystarryknut · 06/09/2013 16:01

BIWI I'm very aware of avoid artificial ingredients and am really reluctant to put Splenda in anything - but it is only 1 tsp. It does need a tiny bit of sweetening I think, although the cinnamon is a natural sweetener in itself. You could try stevia, which is completely natural, but the ground stuff might turn your pancakes green. I haven't tried the new commercial stevia products like Truvia which have recently come on the market. I'll investigate them, experiment, and report back!

janmoomoo · 06/09/2013 16:46

asgoodasitgets Thanks for posting those pics, you have done so well and it is really inspiring to see real results. I will think about you as I weigh myself in the morning. Plus I might get up the courage to take some before pics with the aim of doing what you have done with them.

janmoomoo · 06/09/2013 16:50

With regard to the dry pork issues above, I find a big dollop of full fat philadelphia makes boring things lovely ! Philadelphia in a couple of celery sticks is also a good brekkie to eat at work.

ofcoursethisisanamechange · 06/09/2013 17:23

what about salad dressings? specifically thinking french viniagrette... are they allowed?

captainmummy · 06/09/2013 19:30

Ofcourse - it's better to make your own with olive oil and wine vinegar. Look at the label if you must use bought- we look for less than 3g/100g. Lots have sugar in.

And the coconut oil in Rooibos - I think I saw it on here once. The 'bulletproof' coffee uses it i think so i just adapted it. I only use a teaspoon and it is really filling, but I have to have it black and unsweetened.

prettybird · 06/09/2013 19:44

Captainmummy - can't remember if I copied you or if I too adapted it from bullet proof coffee, but I also drink rooibos with a teaspoon of coconut oil. you barely notice the coconut oil - it just makes the tea feel "rounder" - and like it is doing your lips good! Grin

I don't like to drink my earl grey/darjeeling blend tea without milk, but I am happy to drink rooibos without milk - so I thought I would try it with the coconut oil.

Rooibos is my secret weapon in keeping my water intake up when I am watered out, as it is caffeine free! :)

BIWI · 06/09/2013 20:09

Vinaigrette dressing:

3-5 tablespoons of extra virgin olive oil (depending on your taste/how vinegary you like it)
1 tablespoon of red/white wine or cider vinegar
salt
freshly ground black pepper

Put all ingredients in to a jar or a plastic container with a lid. Shake vigorously and serve.

You can add Dijon mustard or wholegrain mustard, or some finely chopped garlic or shallot, if you like.

Avoid pre-prepared ones as they inevitably use sugar.

Oh and avoid balsamic vinegar, as it is too sweet and very carby

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loopyloou · 06/09/2013 20:27

For salad dressing I pour some olive oil into a small container, squeeze some fresh lemon juice on top, add freshly ground black pepper and salt, put lid on tightly and shake well. Lovely!

Secondsop · 06/09/2013 21:31

BIWI are we allowed shirataki noodles on bootcamp?

BIWI · 06/09/2013 21:48

Very definitely, Secondsop! They are zero carbs and really useful. I think there a couple of recipes using them, on the recipe thread as well.

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BIWI · 07/09/2013 07:50

By the way, for all those of you who are still hoping to be able to carry on drinking Diet Coke/Pepsi (or any other drink using artificial sweeteners), you may like to have a read of this

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BIWI · 07/09/2013 07:57

caughtintheact sorry not to get to your question sooner.

There's a section on not losing weight on the carblife website which says:

^"Prescribed Medicines
There are a number of medicines that can interfere with weight loss, the worst offenders are the psychotropic drugs; phenothiazines, tranquillisers, anti-depressants, etc. The next are hormones such as oestrogen, prednisolone and other steroids. Many anti-arthritic drugs especially NSAIDS, diuretics and to a lesser degree other cardiovascular medications. You cannot stop these medications! Atkins suggests that you can gradually replace the drug with diet and suitable supplements. Do not stop medications without consulting your Doctor!!!"^

Ibuprofen (and aspirin) is a NSAID - non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug.

I did a quick Google and found this thread, which is interesting:

from lowcarbfriends.com

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Secondsop · 07/09/2013 08:25

Thanks biwi! I have some shirataki knocking around in the fridge.

Purple2012 · 07/09/2013 09:02

I have been grilling my chicken to have with salad and in frittatas. Should I be shallow frying it in butter or something? I haven't been hungry between meals yet and have only been hungry late at night a couple of times so I think I am eating enough fat and protein.

StuntNun · 07/09/2013 09:10

It depends Purple, I brush chicken legs or thighs with melted butter, salt, pepper and paprika or dried herbs and either roast or grill them. If it's chicken breast then you really should to fry it as it's too low in fat. And always eat the skin!

BIWI · 07/09/2013 09:11

What other fat are you eating, Purple? This diet should be a high fat one, not just an enough fat one!

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BIWI · 07/09/2013 09:12

You're eating a low fat protein to start with, Purple, so it could well be that you're not eating enough fat.

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HighJinx · 07/09/2013 09:25

I wanted to ask a quick question about fat on meat.

I live in Holland where pretty much all fat is trimmed off meat and chicken breasts/thighs are sold skinless. Is this lack of fat likely to be a problem?

Purple2012 · 07/09/2013 09:37

I am eating cheese (not too much) and eggs. I will fry my chicken today. I have been finding it a little dry. Its weird getting used to eating meat and getting used to higher fat foods. I won't be able to eat the skin. Its been hard enough actually eating meat!

BIWI · 07/09/2013 09:39

It might be HighJinx - so make sure you are buying fattier cuts of meat - chicken thighs rather than the breast, or a whole chicken to roast, skin on and lots of butter/oil on the skin when you roast it.

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MsIngaFewmarbles · 07/09/2013 10:57

Query:

MrInga and I have been having a 'run up' before bootcamp. We have followed all the rules and I lost 6.5lb on the first week but have stalled with no weight lost this week. I feel a lot slimmer, especially my waist. DH isn't weighing but he looks like he has lost weight too.

I wonder due to the stalling this week if we are eating too much dairy? I am definitely drinking enough water, there are NO carb slip ups and we are eating green veg with our evening meal so I think it must be the dairy. I was thinking of doing ubercamp to see how it works for us, what do you think?

StuntNun · 07/09/2013 11:08

MsInga it's normal for the weight to come off in stages especially as you can lose fat but gain water making you feel slimmer so even though you haven't lost weight you have lost fat iyswim. My typical pattern is to drop a pound, then go up half a pound, then down a bit, then back to my lowest weight, then stay the same for a day or two, then drop another pound. I think it's worth persevering for a bit longer before trying ubercamp. Also it's very common to not lose weight in weeks three and four but that doesn't necessarily mean you aren't losing fat.

MsIngaFewmarbles · 07/09/2013 11:57

Thanks Stuntnun that's reassuring. I have just reweighed myself and ask it to do body fat and water as well. Body fat has fallen from 36.7 to 34.8 and water has risen from 44.1 to 47.6 so that's good right?

HighJinx · 07/09/2013 12:35

Thanks BIWI. I might go into the butchers and see if I can get order some fattier cuts.

They even cut all the fat off pork chops here which is the best bit IMO Angry. Plenty of choice of cheese though.

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