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Pre Christmas 22 Boot Camp: the Final Weigh-In!

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prettybird · 12/12/2022 08:16

Good Morning Campers on this cold and crisp morning! Smile Time for the final weigh-in of this Pre-Christmas Boot Camp Xmas Shock. @FinallyHere will be along shortly with the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness Xmas Smile

I hope you've enjoyed this Boot Camp and that you've achieved at least some objectives, either or both SVs and NSVs FlowersXmas Smile.

I've certainly enjoyed running it in @BIWI's not quite total Wink absence (I really appreciated her contributions - she has so much knowledge and experience Smile). As well as @BIWI and @FinallyHere's help, I'd also like to thank @StuntNun who also added her knowledge when called upon. And of course, all you lot. The support we give each other is also what helps make these Boot Camps so successful - as well, of course, because this WoE works Xmas Grin

This thread will continue on over Christmas until it fills up (which i doubt, as we've not been as busy as in some previous Boot Camps).

There's still time to lose a few more pounds/kg before Christmas if you want to - I know I still have a target of another few pounds Xmas Shock - but I'll be happy with just one or two as I've already lost over a stone this Boot Camp Xmas Smile (official weigh-in tomorrow after having non-BootCamp compliant supper at my Dad's last night Xmas Blush)

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NotDonna · 16/12/2022 10:46

Hi Campers, all very quiet on here. Really wish I had some scales. Felt bloated yesterday but much better today. Had a lovely walk along the beach and into the town. Stumbled across an amazing cake shop where DH & DD3 purchased many delights plus latte & hot choc. I got a bottle of water. 😇
Im going to continue to post just to remain accountable. I don’t mind talking to myself.
Bfast - peppermint tea
L - lettuce, spinach, mushrooms, tomatoes, half avocado, smoked salmon with sesame oil & mayo
D- (restaurant) Octopus salad, Trevally with leaves & oil dressing.
Drank water - fizzy & still

prettybird · 16/12/2022 10:54

It's been a pleasure to run this Boot Camp Smile  - it's certainly helped me to be accountable Xmas Blush

I'm just about to go out to a Christmas concert at the Conservatoire but just quickly @NotDonna - have you measured yourself using the Boob or Bust technique https://www.booborbust.com

You might be surprised to find what you do have to fill cups with if you go down a bra size (eg 34 to 32 or even 30) and up a cup size or two with the scoop technique (boob tissue squished under the arm pits).

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NotDonna · 16/12/2022 10:56

Never heard of Booborbust but will click your link now. Thank you! Enjoy your concert. x

Jollyholibobs · 17/12/2022 10:39

I have just found some new motivation. Need new ski trousers as current ones won’t do up. DH offered new ones for Christmas. Shocking time trying on large ski pants with ££££ tickets. Realised I can’t and won’t stay at this ‘heaviest in my life weight’. Didn’t let him buy any. Have 5 weeks until first ski break. Plan to see how much progress I can make by then. So I plan to re engage with BC for accountability. And keep those of you who are KOKOing company. Hosted a pre Christmas gathering of friends this week and not a nibble or mince pie passed my lips. 😇

Baystard · 17/12/2022 13:19

Hi @Jollyholibobs welcome to the KOKO crew and well done on avoiding Christmas nibbles!

I've KOKO quite well so far, some big festive celebrations last week but yesterday I swapped my roast potatoes for a fellow diner's unwanted sprouts and had a coffee instead of a dessert. Generally I've avoided milk so having a flat white feels like an indulgent treat and I think I enjoyed it at least as much as I'd previously have enjoyed dessert, if not more.

ditavonteesed · 17/12/2022 17:20

@NotDonna the renpho scales body fat percentage is absolute crap. I realised mine hadn't changed in the whole time I was going to the gym so I googled and found a way of doing it by measurements. Renpho tells me I'm 35perrcent and the other ways says I'm 26 percent, I think this is more realistic as I have a lot of muscle now.

@prettybird well done on getting under 12, that was your original goal wasn't it?
I was so proud of myself for surviving 6 nights out and not putting anything on until I got on the scales yesterday and was 5lbs up from the previous day. 😳 time to reverse that before Christmas but it was very shocking.

FinallyHere · 17/12/2022 18:30

Gratters @prettybird in your loss

(A sentence I would probably only ever write in the boot camp threads.)

Eanair23 · 17/12/2022 22:05

Congratulations on everyone who has stayed with this BC. I find the water difficult in the cold weather, and the low carb.
My plan is to not dive into a box of chocolates over the next 3 weeks and then take stock in the new year.
Well done PrettyBird I enjoyed the start of this BC (Before I got Covid, and the weather turned Baltic)

BIWI · 18/12/2022 08:28

@Eanair23 have you tried drinking hot water? Boiling water, poured over a wedge of lemon and then topped up with cold water - it's very soothing and, somehow, actually quite satisfying!

FinallyHere · 18/12/2022 12:27

Building on BIWI's idea @Eanair23

I rotate around fresh lemon, fresh mint and fresh ginger in a glass pot. Replacing the water with hot once it's drunk. Usually get two decent pots worth before the flavour starts to lessen.

H*ll, sometimes I do a 'cocktail' lemon & ginger, mint & lemon, mint & ginger etc.

Jollyholibobs · 18/12/2022 13:49

Good swap @Baystard I’d always rather have Brussels than roast potatoes.

@ditavonteesed Interesting how the scales show a time lag with the effects of a stray from this WOE. I will try to remember that next time I think I got away with it!

heading to MIL’s today to take her to an early evening carol service. And then give her dinner. Have made a low carb fish pie with a celeriac topping. Everyone loves it so good result. DH, DS and MIL will have mince pies for desert.

Not enjoying the weather for driving have already done a 2hrs round trip to bring DS back from Uni this morning.

Have a good day everyone.

Passtheturkey · 18/12/2022 18:27

Thank you @BIWI and @FinallyHere, am going to try those warm water cocktails. I’ve really struggled to get the water in with it being so cold.

How have people felt after going astray? The menu on Christmas Day is carb heavy but I don’t want to miss out on it either

NotDonna · 18/12/2022 20:16

@Eanair23 like others I have boiling water over lemon, ginger, mint but also drink a lot of the pukka teas especially the ones with tumeric and/or aniseed flavours. Absolute adore the liquorice and peppermint. I put one in a teapot and let it stew a good while. I also use really big mugs.

What’s on the menu @Passtheturkey? Starters, traditional Turkey & a pud? Can you swap out the potatoes & stuffing for more veg? Have cheese & celery sticks (no biscuits) instead of a Xmas pud? What do you feel you’ll be missing out on? And will it be worth it? If it is then have the day off but set some parameters such as no chocs, no snacks and just the main meals. Pop here what the plan is as maybe we can help?

We had a very lovely fine dining late lunch/dinner yesterday overlooking a very pretty seaside cove watching the surfers. It did include a pasta course (tiny portion) and a dessert but I drank only fizzy water, unlike DH who had the wine flight and DDs who had a couple of cocktails/mocktails. Plus it was my only meal of the day. No idea what the damage will be but hopefully not too bad.

I’m currently teetotal and when I’ve done it before I’ve drunk alcohol free beers or mocktails BUT I’m thinking the AF beers are likely to be carby and of course mocktails full of fruit juice and sugar syrup - which I’m avoiding as trying to stick to woe. But it does make being AF harder. Fizzy water is fine but I think I’ll get bored of it. Any ideas that I can easily ask for in a restaurant? Actually I’ve just thought of lime soda - anything else?

Baystard · 19/12/2022 07:59

Accountability post today. I ate everything in sight yesterday, I suspect a hormone-related blip. I did stay fairly LC though (apart from some scottish oatcakes with butter and a dozen grapes) but I munched through a pile of cheese and alot of peanuts. It wasn't hunger, as I definitely full, but it was a strong compulsion to eat.

Better day today hopefully!

@NotDonna me too, I've been sticking with sparkling water when I'm out lately, I've not found anything better. Interested to hear if anyone has great ideas.

Passtheturkey · 19/12/2022 09:06

@NotDonna it’s assorted canapés (unknown), smoked salmon, beef Wellington with the trimmings and then chocolate fondant. I’m happy to skip the dessert as not really my thing and will do some thinking on my parameters for the rest. Your question of what I think I’ll be missing out on has been real food for thought! Thank you.

I normally stick to sparkling water too but have also had herbal teas (not your usual accompaniment to dinner I know!). I don’t know if a restaurant would do it but sparkling water with a handful of frozen berries in is very nice - slightly flavours the water.

pinknsparkly · 19/12/2022 16:29

Afternoon all, I'm intending to try and keep plodding on, if only to avoid starting the next bootcamp too much heavier than I ended the last one! I definitely find it harder without bootcamp running, never mind the addition of Christmas 😄My husband found an entire box of celebrations I'd been given and put to one side for guests to have on Christmas day. There is now very few of them left.... 🙄 Though I suppose at least he didn't eat them in front of me!

I weighed in this morning and am exactly the same as last weeks weight, which I'm pleased with. I'll see you all in January if not before!

Skiphopbump · 19/12/2022 18:05

I weighed myself yesterday and was just under 240lbs. I want to start the next bootcamp below 250.
I had been sticking to the plan until I had a couple of stuffed dates today - my teeth hurt so much which hasn’t happened for weeks, the sugar was clearly too much for me!

NotDonna · 20/12/2022 06:10

@Passtheturkey canapes could be carby if they’re blini or pastry type things & tbh they’re often not much to write home about. Salmon fine and you could remove the pastry from your beef Wellington but if it’s only a small slice then maybe not too much damage. Fill up on veg! Watch the booze!

Im wanting to send my SIL in Oz the info but not simply copy all the sheets. It has ppls data on even if somewhat anonymous. Does anyone know how I can just send her the rules for boot camp & boot camp light & the carby veg sheet please. I’m on a iPhone.

ditavonteesed · 20/12/2022 08:09

Weight coming back down after last weeks indulgence.

Marathon training was going really well until I walked the dogs yesterday and slipped on ice, jarred my back and think I'd probably better take some time off exercising. I'm very frustrated by this. Friend I'm doing the running with is struggling a bit with her knees so I have suggested maybe it would be safer to aim at a 10k.

My intention is to get weight back to pre indulgence levels and then have Christmas, Boxing Day and 27th off before getting back on it. I know personally as long as I don't have long off I can get straight back on and undo damage ina week. Obviously everyone is different.

Skiphopbump · 20/12/2022 09:11

@NotDonna you could copy the rules info from the first post of week one. For veg look you could send this www.dietdoctor.com/low-carb/vegetables

BIWI · 20/12/2022 09:24

@NotDonna

  1. Eat three proper meals a day.
You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and especially enough fat, you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack). After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger. A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)"
  1. Avoid processed foods.
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not at every meal, every day.
  1. Eat lots of fat.
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light/’Lite’ foods of any kind!
  1. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food.
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are under 5g carb per 100g, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat. The vegetable carb counter is helpfully colour-coded into green (eat freely), amber (go easy) and red (best avoided as much as possible), which will help you to make your choices.
  1. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited).
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. You should choose one that’s 10% fat – most of the supermarkets have a Greek yoghurt in their premium ranges with this amount of fat.
  1. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/: Water is essential to weight loss for those who follow a low carb way of eating. The minimum consumed in a day should be: Your Weight----Litres 140lbs-----2.5 160lbs-----3.0 180lbs-----3.0 200lbs-----3.5 220lbs-----3.5 240lbs-----4.0 260lbs-----4.5 280lbs-----4.5 300lbs-----5.0 320lbs-----5.5 340lbs-----5.5 360lbs-----6.0 380lbs-----6.5 400lbs-----6.5 High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects, e.g. it aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb way of eating, we should eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.
  1. No alcohol.
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.
  1. No fruit.
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, in moderation, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.
  1. No nuts/seeds.
Although they are a good source of nutrition and contain lots of fat – which is great for us – they also contain carbohydrate and, because they’re so moreish, you can quickly end up eating a lot of carbs. When we move to Bootcamp Light, after the first two weeks, you can re-introduce these, but be careful and go easy.
  1. No sugar or artificial sweeteners. Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.
BIWI · 20/12/2022 09:25

Why don't you get your SIL to sign up to MN and join Bootcamp @NotDonna?! That's the easiest way for her to get the info.

You could always also send a link to the spreadsheet - given that we all use anonymous names it's not passing on anything specifically personal.

NotDonna · 20/12/2022 10:23

Fabulous @biwi & @Skiphopbump I’ll copy & paste this & send the links. Huge thanks! She’s calorie counting and then doing 500kcals four days a month. She’s been to a clinic where it’s worked but says the food was dire. It was vegan, she’s not. No mention of low carb but to avoid meat, fish, eggs, butter etc. Some good advice such as start each meal with a salad and try 16:8 but she’s starving! Surprise surprise with no fats to satiate. Not sure she believes me when I say low carb/high fat as we’ve been told since the 70’s that fat is bad. I’ve sent her some Jason Fung’s videos but I don’t want to preach! Just seems crazy to be doing something so difficult and unsustainable when this woe isn’t that hard! I’ve suggested she joins our boot camp in Jan and will send her this info too. Huge thanks!
Im really missing my scales! I don’t feel like I’ve gained. Waistband no tighter etc but I never know 🤷‍♀️ Eating lots of salads, fish, meat and drinking lots of water. Albeit I have had a couple of coffees with milk over last few days. And here and there a mouthful of DC’s pancakes/carrot cake/banana bread - just little tastes - I can’t quite help myself! Zero alcohol though in last 7/8 days. Definitely not perfect but equally not anything like I would be normally. Really wish I had some scales or had packed a tape measure! Not that I’ve got any measurements from before.

Sunsnowsun · 20/12/2022 17:41

Huge thanks from me for running this bootcamp, I managed to my bootcamp goal, now to keep going over Christmas 🎄

Baystard · 20/12/2022 18:40

Enjoy the time away from the scales @NotDonna, your waistband will tell you if you're doing OK

On Sunday I ate everything in sight but I'm back on track now. Huge buttery tomato omelette for lunch and an enormous hunk of Stilton and a plum for dinner. There's some sort of wonderful magic happening where as stilton goes in fat comes off Grin

Down to my last buttermint teabag though Sad

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