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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Welcome to 2022's first Low Carb Bootcamp!

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BIWI · 16/01/2022 17:16

Almost 200 of us signed up, so it's going to be a busy one.

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Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness lovingly managed by @ouchmyfeet.

I've added a couple of names that I've spotted this evening, but they're at the bottom of the list not alphabetised - if your name isn't on the list, add yours at the bottom, and we'll re-alphabetise it once we get going.

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DearZoom · 23/01/2022 14:26

It is an expensive way of eating isn’t it. I’ve just come back from a big shop and was thinking I need to plan a bit more carefully next week. I’m also buying non lchf food for dd an DH.
I made cheeseburger pie earlier this week and it was massive, very filling and cheap. It also apparently freezes well so something to have to hand when the rest of the family are having pasta or something.

Corned beef is cheap and nice fried up with left over veg and an egg.

Baystard · 23/01/2022 15:16

I like salmon but it is expensive. However, Lidl sell packs of smoked salmon trimmings that are really nice (it's just not the pristine slices) and inexpensive, they also come in a small pack size which is manageable for 1 person. Another good tip I have, if you have a freezer, is to look put for whole sides of salmon in Lidl or Aldi, especially if they have a special offer - they can be much cheaper than buying small fillets and you can just slice and freeze it yourself. I got one for less than £9 once and worked out it was less than half the cost of buying the packs of two fresh fillets.

RagzRebooted · 23/01/2022 15:34

I can't find the celeriac remoulade recipe Sad I've searched and keep seeing people mentioning it, but no links to the recipe. Has anyone got it saved?

RagzRebooted · 23/01/2022 15:36

Ignore me, I didn't mean remoulade at all, that seems to be a coleslaw type thing. I meant gratin! Have found this one which looks good
www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/cheesy-celeriac-leek-rosemary-gratin

BIWI · 23/01/2022 16:04

Afternoon! We were out with friends last night and stayed over, so only just back to catch up. Here comes a mammoth thread:

@NigellaAwesome glad to hear the skiwear panic is over!

@LoCarbLife It's really important that you overcome the fear of fat. Have a read of the resources on the spreadsheet, or if you fancy a book, get hold of anything by Gary Taubes, or Nina Teicholz's book The Big Fat Surprise. And yes, not having figures for the macros is very definitely intentional - Bootcamp is supposed to be as easy to follow as possible. Therefore no weighing/counting.

@Mimosa1 - yes - you definitely need to ditch the sweetcorn! It's very high in carbs, at 13.9g carbs per 100g. (The clue is in the name ...)

@Oneborneverydecade I'm not really a fan of non-dairy milks, as I don't think any of them have the same taste or texture as dairy milk. I'd rather just limit my intake of dairy milk, or have black coffee. However, I should also warn you that oat milk is really carby - Oatly whole milk is 6.6g carbs per 100ml.

Sorry to hear about the pork pie @CeleriacOfTheNight. It's awful when you look forward to something and then it's so disappointing! My pizza bases made with their flour were really not very nice, and so I did email the company asking if they had their own recipe for making them, and they basically just shrugged their shoulders (in an email way, of course!) and said they didn't. Just keep experimenting and let them know Hmm

@YesIcan3 after the first two weeks of Bootcamp we move on to Bootcamp Light. Have a look at the spreadsheet for the rules. Basically it allows you to include some fruit (mainly berries), some nuts/seeds and some alcohol. All in moderation.

And well done on the 7lbs! Also @DearZoom Flowers

@BaconOmelette it could very well be the start of carb flu, especially if your diet before was very carb heavy. Drink plenty of water and keep the fats up, but also consider your electrolytes. Have you read what I've written before about carb flu and electrolytes?

@BSky a little vanilla extract or bean paste in yoghurt is lovely. (Just a little though!)

@Random789 remember that one of the things we're aiming to do with Bootcamp is to break the hold that sweet things have over us. So ideally you shouldn't be looking for dessert options to finish off a meal.

@YesICan3 just be aware that the Twinings infusion is artificially sweetened.

@Theghostofchristmasarse @queenofcauliflower @AThroneOfLies @DearZoom if you have a look at the tabs on the spreadsheet, you'll see that there's one for economy recipes. I know that many of the things we've talked about on here might be expensive, but low carbing really doesn't have to be so! Fattier cuts of meat are generally cheaper than leaner ones - so 20% fat beef mince, or shin of beef for example. There are also lots of vegetarian recipes that would be cheap to cook.

That said, I do understand that there's a lot of pressure on budgets. I'll see if I can come up with some more recipes or suggestions.

@oviraptor21 why do you need an after-exercise snack?!

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BIWI · 23/01/2022 16:07

I don't think there's a celeriac gratin recipe - there's one for dauphinoise and, I think, boulangere. But if that recipe turns out well, post it on the recipe thread, please! Flowers

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Benvolio · 23/01/2022 16:30

My mashed celeriac last night wasn't very nice. I'm going to involve cheese, cream and browning the top to jazz up the leftovers tonight, inspired by that gratin recipe. Thanks!

foxlover47 · 23/01/2022 16:34

Hey everyone :)
I've fed kicked in with the not feeling hungry now and I'm so suprised I've managed to stick this out as easily as I have , I'm always a comfort or emotional eater.
I've got a great recipe for sugar free werthers and cream cookies / or choc mousse if anyone would like it . @BIWI I think that would be for phase two of boot camp wouldn't it ? X

BIWI · 23/01/2022 16:39

@Benvolio, I've found that if you add a couple of leeks - that you've fried in butter first - to the celeriac mash, it's a much better texture and also taste.

Yes, @foxlover47 it sounds like Bootcamp Light! But why not go on to the desserts recipe thread and post it there?

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DearZoom · 23/01/2022 16:49

@Theghostofchristmasarse
I bought 2 packs of buttermint tea this morning. Just tried my first drink and although I like it I don’t think I’m going to get through 2 packs either. If you PM and your address I can send you the 2nd pack.

Theghostofchristmasarse · 23/01/2022 16:52

@DearZoom that is so sweet of you! Thanks, especially as bloody Sainsbury's didn't have any, drove all the way there to find none 😬
I'm trying a low carb moussaka now, no potato, just Tom puree in the mince, double cream and cheese for the bechamel sauce...🤞

foxlover47 · 23/01/2022 17:01

@BIWI I haven't seen that thread I will search that now as I think it will be my fave 🙈🤣

MrsTerryPratchett · 23/01/2022 17:03

the kids don’t notice the difference (maybe decant into a regular carton for your dc with ASD)

Just in case. My child with ADHD and some sensory stuff can tell the difference. It's taken a while to transition her.

BIWI · 23/01/2022 17:06

[quote foxlover47]@BIWI I haven't seen that thread I will search that now as I think it will be my fave 🙈🤣[/quote]
Then you haven't been reading the thread! The recipe threads are all linked to earlier, by me. This is why I ask everyone to read all the posts.

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BIWI · 23/01/2022 17:06

[quote Theghostofchristmasarse]@DearZoom that is so sweet of you! Thanks, especially as bloody Sainsbury's didn't have any, drove all the way there to find none 😬
I'm trying a low carb moussaka now, no potato, just Tom puree in the mince, double cream and cheese for the bechamel sauce...🤞[/quote]
There is a low carb moussaka recipe on the meat recipe thread!

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missfliss · 23/01/2022 17:10

Ooh interesting tips re leeks and celeriac

DearZoom · 23/01/2022 17:10

@Theghostofchristmasarse
Isn’t that just typical! No worries. I’m not able to get to the post office till Wednesday but I’ll send it then.

RagzRebooted · 23/01/2022 17:17

Breakfast - Creamy coffee
Brunch - Homemade coleslaw, ham and fried halloumi.
Dinner - I'm doing minute steaks, roasted Mediterranean vegetables and broccoli in cheese sauce (like cauliflower cheese, but broccoli) as had a load of veg in the fridge that needed using. Hoping for lots of leftover vegetables for lunch tomorrow as I relied on cartons of soup last week.

Also boiled a load of eggs and they're in the fridge, plus a tub of egg mayo.
Also have a bag of spinach as DH was going to have it in smoothies, but didn't. I don't really like spinach. It's the texture I don't like, I can eat it raw in salads but cooked it seems to have a horrible 'furry top of the mouth' effect. Can cope with a bit in a curry.

foxlover47 · 23/01/2022 17:23

@BIWI you're right I haven't caught up
, I'm
Sorry and I won't make the same mistake :)

Benvolio · 23/01/2022 17:23

@BIWI thanks. I need to synchronise my leek having with my celeriac having! Will remember for next time. Leeks went into a chicken thing.

StuntNun · 23/01/2022 17:26

It doesn't have to be expensive to eat low carb @DearZoom I eat a lot and I mean A LOT of eggs.

@oviraptor21 I'd go with a Peperami and a Babybel for a portable post-exercise snack. Although once you're fat-adapted you probably won't need the snack any more.

@Benvolio cold-pressed rapeseed oil should be fine on this WoE. It's the highly-processed vegetable oils that cause inflammation and weight gain. There's actually a fairly compelling biochemical argument that vegetable oils are driving the obesity epidemic rather than sugar being the cause. I'm starting to think that we should add to the Bootcamp rules to move away from vegetable / sunflower / rapeseed oils as while it is currently a suggestion as part of overall healthy eating, it isn't part of the official Bootcamp rules. What do you think @BIWI ?

@Mimosa1 in the Why We Eat Too Much book, Jenkinson is typically uninformed about low carb / keto ways of eating and assume that carb flu is an insurmountable obstacle and that it's a difficult Way of Eating to stick to long term. His approach is to reset the body's weight set point and wait for your body to fix itself rather than to diet until you reach your ideal weight and risk weight regain. I suspect that for most of us on Bootcamp this requires a combination of cutting carbs, some form of time restricted eating (such as 16:8 or not snacking) and focussing on real food rather than processed foods. According to his theory it's better to lose weight slowly rather than quickly which fits in well with our approach of eating when hungry rather than trying to limit calorie intake. There are lots of ways to lose weight quickly but what we really should be focussing on is losing weight sustainably.

@Willlow the teabag I use in cold sparkling water is Taylor's Rose Lemonade.

@Random789 I have to limit dairy as it seems to make me crave carbs. I'm okay with cheese but cream or yogurt derail me. Dairy can cause an insulin spike in some people and clearly I'm one of those people. Having said that, I gave up dairy entirely for about nine months while I was breastfeeding my (allergic) DS4 and it didn't seem to make much difference to my weight so I don't feel it's worth me giving it up entirely.

I had an eight-hour round trip drive today taking DS1 back to university and the food available at motorway service stations is definitely better than it was when I first started low carb back in 2013. We stopped for brunch and I had a Full English Breakfast from Harry Ramsden's that had minimal carbs (baked beans and a single hash brown that were easily swerved. The sausages might not have been ideal but they didn't seem too bad either. Best of all, the server didn't bat an eyelid when I asked for butter instead of sauces so I got some extra fat in there too. On the way back I stopped in a Little Waitrose and got a Greek-style side salad that was 2.7g carbs per 100g. The only downside was I had a Starbucks coffee which was almost the worst coffee I've ever had pretty poor tbh.

foxlover47 · 23/01/2022 17:40

@Theghostofchristmasarse I have been buying these chicken thighs from asda , they are £4.09 for 2kg.I don't have a Aldi or Lidl nearby and have to online shop.Iceland won't even deliver here lol.
I buy eggs and frozen broccoli and mushrooms and then fresh spinach I think is a pound a bag and my lettuce a couple of pound for a few.
I'm a single parent on a rubbish wage too I know it can work out quite expensive so I'm just trying to do it at the most budget end I can

foxlover47 · 23/01/2022 17:41

@Theghostofchristmasarse I forgot to add the pic

BIWI · 23/01/2022 17:44

@StuntNun

I'm starting to think that we should add to the Bootcamp rules to move away from vegetable / sunflower / rapeseed oils as while it is currently a suggestion as part of overall healthy eating, it isn't part of the official Bootcamp rules

I think this is a really good idea.

I also realise that I need to read that book again - I read it in a real hurry, some months ago, and I think I need to go back and properly digest what he's saying!

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missfliss · 23/01/2022 17:50

@StuntNun I've been using cold pressed olive oil, coconut oil, ghee and butter for cooking since reading in Dr Jenkinsons book re the impact of omega 6 - sadly can't stretch to grass fed meat etc most of the time but figure this all helps. Is it the Omega 6 imbalance which is making you think of adding these oil guidelines in ?