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Week 5 Pre-Christmas Low Carb Bootcamp

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BIWI · 14/11/2021 22:31

Evening/morning all (depending on what time you’re reading this!)

As ever, here’s the link to The Spreadsheet of Fabulousness.

We now enter week 5. Hopefully we’re through the doldrums of weeks 3 & 4, and you should start to see the scales moving for you again. Remember that we’re still doing strict Bootcamp during the week (you are, aren’t you? Hmm), only relaxing things a little at the weekend.

I’m also hopeful that by now this WOE is becoming more of a habit for you – if you’re new to low carbing – and that you’re enjoying it, rather than feeling that you’re on a deprivation diet. (If ever you’re wondering about this, just pop over to any of the low calorie threads in the weight loss section, and see just how different the posts/themes are on those – very rarely are they about enjoying delicious food!).

If you haven’t already done so, please go and check out the recipe threads, which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic. There are some fantastic recipes there, and even if you don’t choose any of them, they should give you some inspiration for your own cooking.

For this week’s recipe, I’ve chosen something very comforting. I’ve been reading various weather forecasts which say we’re in for some cold weather over the next couple of weeks, so this seemed appropriate:

Low Carb Shepherd's Pie

serves 6

3 large/5 small leeks (about the number you will get in a pack from Sainsbury) sliced
1/2 head of celery, sliced
500g beef mince (not lean - go for a high fat mince)
1 OXO cube
1 whole celeriac, peeled and chopped into chunks
2 banana/echalion shallots (Sainsbury's sell these - long and thin rather than round - but I guess ordinary shallots would be fine - you need around 75g)
Grated cheese

  • Fry your beef first, in olive oil in a large frying pan, and season with salt, pepper and when browned, crumble in the OXO cube
  • In a large saucepan, fry the leeks and celery in butter with a splash of olive oil (Adding the oil helps to prevent the butter from burning)
  • When softened, add the mince and then cover with water and simmer for 30 minutes, with the pan lid on
  • After 30 minutes, take the lid off and reduce the amount of liquid (it needs to be reasonably dry - but do this to your own taste)
  • While the meat is cooking, boil your celeriac in a large pan of salted water, till tender - this will take 20-25 minutes
  • Drain and mash - either by hand or with a stick blender.
  • Thinly slice the shallots and fry gently till nicely browned, in butter with a splash of oil, then mix into the mash
  • Put the meat into an oven-proof dish and spread the mash on top of it. Top with the grated cheese and bake for around 20 minutes in a hot oven until the cheese is browned.

32g for the whole thing; 5.4g carbs per portion if serving 6 people.

The specific weights of the veg I used, if you want to be really anal about carb counts (!) were:

leeks - 427g
celery 213g
celeriac - 596g
shallots - 78g

and an OXO cube is 1.8g carbs.

One final thing

I always make a plea, at the start of each Bootcamp, that posters read all the posts on the thread. Not only is it poor thread etiquette not to, but it’s also very frustrating when people post or ask about things that have been written about, or linked to, earlier in the thread.

I’m not going to name any names (yet!) but it’s very obvious when this happens. And also, by not reading all the posts you miss out on so much key information!

Anyway, that’s it from me. Over and out, and here’s wishing all of us a good, satisfying and tasty low carb week Flowers

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Noavocado · 16/11/2021 18:14

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prettybird · 16/11/2021 18:16

@SparklingLime - don't you realise, @BIWI is making millions from us we just don't know it Wink according to the gremlins on the s u b boards at R t? Wink

She couldn't possibly be doing this out of the goodness of her heart Grin - and those of us who try to support her in supporting newbies are just being exploited Confused

Personally, my weight loss has been up and down. Sometimes my head is not in the right place for me to get in the Zone (the very fact that I know if I get in the Zone I'll feel better only serves to make me feel guilty Hmm). Sometimes I'm dealing with "other" stuff Sad

What I do know is that since I started on this WoE, I've never gone back up to my highest weight of 15st - more than 2st has been lost "permanently" and I now oscillate between just over 11 st and around 12.5st (more usually between 11.5 and 12st). SmileEach oscillation gets lower Smile I lost 3 stone in the 1st 6 months of the time that Boot Camp really "stuck" Halo

I've learnt a lot about emotional eating. Not enough to always resist it - but the support here helps. I also suspect that there is a degree of self-sabotage with I get close to breaking through the 11st barrier as I know I already look good, so why should I go that extra mile? Hmm (The answer is that I want to get to a normal BMI which for me is under 10st 10lb - and I have a Nicole Fahri dress I want to get back into Grin)

I've also learnt that I often eat from boredom rather than true hunger (yes, I know the Rules say only to eat if hungry Blush), which is why I find IF and the occasional extended fast help me psychologically Smile Actually, it's the IF and extended fasts that have taught me how rarely I truly feel hunger Shock

We often remind people also to note the other benefits: better skin, better sleep, reduced inches/better fitting clothes, reduced dangerous visceral fat, better mood. This can help keep motivated even when the scales are stalling.

Some of us are Abstainers, some Moderators for short periods - but we each work out our own route.

And all this without feeling hungry and still enjoying good food. Many of us in here are foodies and enjoy cooking (and in my case, baking Shock): hence lots of sharing of recipes, descriptions of HFLC compatible meals - and all the lovely recipes on the recipe threads Grin

HFLC BootCamp is not for everyone. It is unforgiving if you fall off the wagon Sad. That's why in the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness has resources that we can read to understand the science behind it. That's also why those of us who have been doing it for a long while take the time to share our experiences, warts and all. Thanks

BIWI · 16/11/2021 18:28

[quote Noavocado]@BIWI I have taken and read and re read your post. Maybe I have taken it a bit personally. You and me are very different personalities. You are a patient lady.
My point remains a bootcamp is a quick intensive re vamp. But many seem to think it's a little jog. Either re word it or stop making it so lax for some and not others.
I didn't lose a stone eating crap and sitting on my arse.... I did what you advice me to do. Why should I not be proud of it.[/quote]
Wow!

I've missed the deleted thread, so not quite sure what you said, but this is really not on.

To imply that I make it lax for some but not others is simply not true. Anyone taking part in Bootcamp is an adult, and should take responsibility for their own behaviour. I do take people to task if they're not following the rules, hence the (jokes about) The Big Stick.

You've done brilliantly and absolutely you should be proud of it. You posted on an earlier thread being worried about being smug about your weight loss, and many posters came back and not only praised you, but welcomed your posts and said that in no way should you think you were being smug, but that you should celebrate it.

I'm really not sure what you're taking personally here. (Although missing the deleted post would probably explain that).

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Noavocado · 16/11/2021 18:37

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catwithflowers · 16/11/2021 18:42

@BIWI I am one of your lurkers. I am definitely using this way of eating to maintain rather than to lose weight but find that I feel so much healthier in other ways by adopting a low-carb lifestyle. It's not just about weight loss. And a big shout out here to StuntNun who has also been incredibly helpful and so informed.

Having said that, my husband, step-daughter and son-in -law have recently started this way of eating for weight loss largely based on my being evangelical about it the results so many of us see on this thread and, as a result of this, our wider reading.

@Noavocado I really hope you stick with us. I have been a member of mumsnet for over 20 years and find this one of the most friendly, supportive, informative and inspiring threads. All the best to you 🙂

Dellabob123 · 16/11/2021 18:46

I’ve had chilli slow cooking all day driving me mad. I’m about to tuck in with some cauli rice, sour cream and a sprinkle of cheese.

I love this bloody thread, please do t change a thing

Noavocado · 16/11/2021 18:46

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prettybird · 16/11/2021 18:47

I'm confused. @ShagMeRiggins hasn't posted since 13.06 - a completely innocuous post about the design on the top of @BIWI's shepherd pie Confused

I know that the MN app can sometimes hide posts under an ad - but I am struggling to see what awful stuff she has written (apart from her constant exhortations to drink water water water Wink).

prettybird · 16/11/2021 19:08

This is not a "membership" thread: people join in, or not, actively or simply lurking, because they choose to. Confused

We joke about the fact that @BIWI earns nothing not expects to from her efforts. We don't pay any membership and it's not judged by its numbers - neither of those who start, nor the number who "finish". How would we know anyway? Confused as it's not required to be on the spreadsheet, many people just lurk and others just learn a bit now and come back next time more ready.

Recognising that, many of us who've done this on and off for years choose to add some of our own experience - both to help others and to motivate ourselves.

I "signed up" for Boot Camp many years before I actually was in the right headspace to do it properly. I know it works (I lost 3 stone over 6 months when I did eventually do it properly, 2 stone of that in the 2nd Boot Camp in the run up to Christmas).

I've made the effort to get to know people and have been fortunate enough to meet a few of the Scottish based ones (again, that takes effort - and trust that they're not hairy truckers Wink). But there are many (most of you! Wink) that I've not met in RL - but over time I enjoy getting to know you, both young and old.

There are also Boot Campers who've got to their target, are successful in "maintenance" and don't feel the need to join in any more (although some do pop in occasionally). That's fine. Smile

There are others who either fall of the wagon by mistake/circumstances and will disappear - but drag themselves back eventually (I've been in that category on occasion Blush). And others who just decide that this WoE is not for them - which is also fine. Smile

It's not compulsory Grin

BIWI · 16/11/2021 19:32

I wish you all the best wherever you decide to go @Noavocado.

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Aderyn21 · 16/11/2021 19:34

noavocado it’s more than a bit rude to come into someone else’s house and start bitching about the decor!
Personally I’ve not found this group to be cliquey and have benefited greatly from the information and support here.
People don’t always succeed immediately because eating junk is nice, it’s how we learn to seek comfort and our bodies crave sugar. And it’s everywhere. So of course we struggle. It’s not a failure to do Bootcamp regularly.

BIWI · 16/11/2021 19:37

@ShagMeRiggins, getting the pattern on top of the mash is simple - you drag a fork up and down and then across and back. I wish I could pretend it involved some kind of superior culinary skill, but that's it Grin

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SparklingLime · 16/11/2021 19:41

So, what are people having for dinner? I’m having beef burgers, spinach and cauliflower, with plenty of butter and garlic. Smile

JunieSpoony · 16/11/2021 19:42

I'm very tempted by that pie, @BIWI. If only I could find celeriac in my supermarket!

@prettybird what an amazing loss! I need more stories like this Smile

H1Drangea · 16/11/2021 19:50

I had lovely chicken breast , with mascarpone and mushroom sauce , cauliflower rice and broccoli
The sauce was a little bland , I’m going to make the chicken Alfredo ( recipe thread and diet dr ) tomorrow, would have made it tonight , but DH had bought a steak ( I don’t eat much red meat ) which was near the use by date and he fancied that

Went for a walk this afternoon , some lovely autumn colours

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mrshoho · 16/11/2021 19:53

@Noavocado

Thanks for your help *@BIWI*. After my stone loss Il move to a weight loss thread that doesn't involve groupies x As a point of reference... This is why you do not retain or gain members.
Congrats on your 1st loss. That's very impressive and you've every right to be proud. I'm glad this group helped with your motivation and gave you the support and information you were looking for. I don't get why you are now being so sarcastic and derogatory towards the group. You no longer want or need the support from here and that's fine but loads of us here do.
Aderyn21 · 16/11/2021 19:59

I have a tip for mashed ‘potato’ if you don’t like or can’t get celeriac. Mash steamed cauliflower with 3 raw eggs, butter, salt and pepper. Put on top of shepherds pie, sprinkle with cheese and bake.
I think it might also make a decent bubble and squeak.
Have had pan fried smoked trout and green beans for dinner, with lots of mayo and butter - simple but delicious!
Also proud of myself for going to my exercise class even though I really couldn’t be bothered this morning.

Getyourheadaroundthis · 16/11/2021 19:59

Another lurker just popping my head in to say how great I think bootcamp is. The threads move too quickly for me to always keep up and post hence I lurk more BUT I have been here for just over a year now. Not because it doesn’t work but as people have said life happens and also because 1 bootcamp won’t solve all of the weight I have to lose. But I return to the threads for the insight, ideas and wisdom. Thank you @BIWI and other regular posters who are nothing but supportive, knowledgeable and encouraging. Flowers

BIWI · 16/11/2021 20:00

I made another Fast800 recipe tonight - from the Easy recipe book - Cardamon Chicken:

I've copied this from the Daily Mail (sorry!) who did a feature on the Fast800 and listed this recipe in it:

CARDAMOM CHICKEN

This is a gorgeous, creamy dish, delicately flavoured with cardamom.

Serves 4 l Prep 15 mins l Cook 30 mins

PER SERVING 305cals PROTEIN 31g CARBS 8g FAT 16g FIBRE 3g

INGREDIENTS

2tbsp olive, coconut or rapeseed oil
1 large onion, peeled and finely chopped
2 large red peppers, deseeded and cut into roughly 2cm chunks
8 cardamom pods, lightly crushed
5-6 boneless, skinless chicken thighs (around 550g/1lb 4oz total weight), trimmed of fat and quartered
20g (¾oz) fresh root ginger, peeled and finely chopped
1tsp cumin seeds
½tsp crushed dried chilli flakes
1tsp garam masala
400ml (14fl oz) chicken stock (made with 1 stock cube)
Sea salt and freshly ground black pepper
4tbsp full-fat crème fraîche or double cream (around 50g/1¾oz)
A handful of fresh coriander leaves to serve

METHOD

Heat the oil in a large frying pan, add the onion, peppers and cardamom and fry over a fairly high heat for 5-6 minutes, or until the onion is browning, stirring occasionally.

Add the chicken and ginger and cook for a further 3 minutes, stirring. Sprinkle with the cumin, chilli and garam masala and fry for 30 seconds more, stirring. Pour the stock over, season well and bring to a gentle simmer. Cook for 20 minutes, or until the chicken is tender and the sauce is reduced, stirring occasionally.

Add the crème fraîche and cook for a final 1-2 minutes, stirring. Serve topped with coriander.

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I served it with broccoli which I briefly par boiled, then charred over a very hot heat in a frying pan, with some Ponzu, and cauliflower rice which I also fried, with shallots and garlic. Both the veg side dishes had plenty of fat added, as the main dish is relatively low in fat,

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prettybird · 16/11/2021 20:09

Minus the peppers That looks a tasty recipe Smile

catwithflowers · 16/11/2021 20:15

Dinner tonight for me and my new low carb crew was homemade chicken tikka masala with roast spiced cauliflower and crispy kale. Delish 😋

Jollyholibobs · 16/11/2021 20:18

Tonight’s dinner. Portobello mushrooms pizza with homemade coleslaw.

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TrueGrit54 · 16/11/2021 20:20

Hope everyone is ok and no one upset by drama. ShagMeRiggins you good?

I ate celeriac, cream, anchovy gratin, chicken breast and cabbage.

StuntNun · 16/11/2021 20:22

Oh I've missed all the drama. I hope you don't leave @Noavocado and I'm sorry to hear you've found things a bit clique-y on Bootcamp. I've noticed that each Bootcamp has its own "flavour" and different ideas come to the fore each time. I don't think many of them have lasted longer than one or two Bootcamps apart from shoogled sprouts. I definitely don't think Bootcamp is easy, especially given the first two weeks, the water requirements and BIWI's big stick. When I was losing weight on Bootcamp, I lost an average of 1.5 lb per week which seems like a pretty respectable rate of weight loss to me.

prettybird · 16/11/2021 20:25

My supper tonight was a 6 egg scrambled eggs (between dh and me) with chopped shallot and then a selection of small home grown tomatoes stirred through near the end and then double cream stirred through right at the end.

The secret to my excellent creamy scrambled eggs is to put into a hot pan (in this with the shallots that have been cooked in plenty of butter), turn it right down and then cook long and slow, only occasionally stirring. Just as the scrambled eggs are cooked (having added the tomatoes shortly before), turn the heat off (le Creuset pan so retains the heat), add the double cream and then stir as it finishes off cooking in the residual heat. Season.

Scrummy. Dh had his with some warm sourdough bread that I'd baked earlier - but I can resist it easily as I've made it so often so I know what it tastes like. Halo