Week 6 Low CarbBootcamp - the second half

[BIWI]

Morning campers!

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for you to confess all

We're half way through now. Hopefully by now we should all be getting used to a low carb way of eating, which will mean we should be fat-adapted.

I hope you've enjoyed the recipe challenges, and I really look forward to reading more recipes.

I especially hope that the challenge has lured the lurkers out! Please post your recipes!

And, of course, here's hoping that we all have a good week ahead

I'm 5'3" Shag and Athelstane
They could line us up like Russian dolls

I'll give that yoga a whirl and try to get past her saying the word invite every two seconds

These inches matter you know, BIWI, if you spent your youth amongst giants (hearty Norfolk farming stock), and your early career amongst giants (Dutch and Danish colleagues).

I did get fed up of being the team mascot

I know the inches matter. I'm only 5'2"!

yeah, Adriene's a bit of an eye-opener at first, with all that relentless niceness. You get used to it, and even quite fond of her.

Cool, @nowlook, but we're missing the 5'3.5"er - anyone out there?

@Lyrata

Actually even if you believe set point theory, low carb is one of the ways to ‘get around it’ according to some people because you eat enough calories not to upset your body into dialling down your ‘calories out’ but without the constant release of lots of insulin from carbs, your body is encouraged to burn that energy rather than store it as fat.

That is what I read anyway - and I choose to believe it as it is more motivating than set point theory.

Interesting, Lyrata, thank you.

I’m LCHF through and through but I do try to be open to research etc! Set point seems so...oh, I don’t know. I’ll give up!

Today has been A Day of Chopping Shit.

Made a massive bowl of Greek salad to be used during the next few days as a go to.

Making butternut squash soup, loads, to be used in the next few days (not by me).

Making a massive mix of tuna/mayo/shallots/cornichons to be used in the next few days (definitely by me)!

Managed three loads of laundry and three boxes of books for keep/donate.
Also cleared a hot spot in the foyer which always has tremendous amounts of crap on it because we don’t know what to do with it all.

Now off to prep (MORE CHOPPING) for tonight’s Racketeering family meal. what an autocorrect that was!

In about one hour I should be finished and will down tools with a large vodka slim.

Biggest crisis today has been realising we are down to our last bottle of EVOO and it’s only 1/4 left. The shock sent me feeling but husband will be bringing some later after returning from watching the football. Phew.

Ps to BIWI— I DO NOT WANT THE BIG STICK EVER EVER EVER.

@FusionChefGeoff

Talk to me about wrapping stuff in other stuff please

I'm totally behind the salad / sandwich idea in lettuce.

However, I'm struggling with putting hot things eg a delicious lamb kofta I've just prepared, in a lettuce leaf!!

I have sweetheart, white and red cabbage - would either of those work instead of pita? Aubergine slices??

oooh, interesting. I don't think I've tried wraps for hot stuff. You could try a very thin version of the (is it almond flour?) pizza base that's on the recipe threads somewhere.

But not just yet, or BIWI'll be after you with the stick - after two weeks you could try.

I think I’ll join the sitting down in my PJs exercise option

Spent today gardening - by which I mean hefting around planks of wood to make raised beds, and shovelling the 3000L of compost I had delivered. DH and DS1 demanded a McDs as a treat half way through, I made myself a very low carb roll (thick cream cheese and ham) and had a small Diet Coke as my treat. Even managed to pop in to the corner shop for something without buying crap - normally that’s my ultimate downfall!

Heck sausages and veg with Boursin for dinner.

I made the ratatouille last night, it was very good! My rather unpredictable oven slightly incinerated the cheese, but I added a bit more and it all worked out.

Oh and for wraps - little gem lettuce are a permanent feature on my shopping list for anything that would otherwise be a sandwich. I made the Chinese pork wraps off the recipe thread, which involved blanching cabbage leaves to use as wraps - that would work for kofta. I’ve also just been turning things in to bowl meals - chicken fajitas as a bowl with lots of lettuce, sour cream and salsa is very tasty.

I think there is an element of truth to set point theory but it's more that we tend to stuck at certain weights and it takes a few weeks to get past them. Remember that a weight loss stall has to be more than four weeks before it's worth trying to do anything about it as it's normal and common for the scales not to budge for weeks on end.

Lyrata is that why all leggings seem to be advertised as "squat-proof"? It wasn't something I'd ever worried about to be honest. As Jillian Michaels says, "If you've got it, flaunt it" and I am abundantly blessed in the rear end department! Even when I was a skinny child I always had a "derrière" as my ballet teacher used to call it.

Athelstane breathe lots of love in; breathe lots of love out.

@ShagMeRiggins

Who was talking way upthread about set point weight? Was it Marmalade?

I am honestly not having a go, but I thought it worth mentioning that maybe your set point isn’t 195, maybe it had something to do with demolishing a pick & mix?

My understanding of set point—and let’s be clear, it’s a theory—is that this is a weight one can easily maintain but is also the weight that is resistant to long-term attempts at weight loss.

Which means after sticking to a weight loss plan for quite a long time, your body struggles to budge down from that weight. Is that correct?

But that’s not what happened, is it?

I’m not trying to Big Stick you—like Jackie Weaver, I have No Authority Here !

But your post made me think, and I wanted to point out that there are plateaus, stalls, and all sorts that occur during a long-term weight loss plan, but the most important thing is to follow the plan as best and long as possible.

I say this as someone who has lost around 60lbs on Bootcamp over a few years and only about a stone in the last year, and I’ll take it because I’m still about 60lbs down. Feels great. Still 2+ stones to go for Normal BMI, so still staying with it. I don’t believe 176 is my set point. Not at 5’4” and small bone structure. Nope.

So, I don’t believe I’m at my set point; I believe that I’m not following the rules as much as I should!

TL;DR—KOKO, follow the Rules, and WATER!!!

Ps—if you got this far, I wanted to add that it occurred to me you might have been making a joke of it, in which case I apologise for the reply. I’m just worried that this set point theory is gaining traction without—from what I can deduce—huge amounts of research. It could encourage people to simply give up.

Yes it was me Shag and I wasn't being serious sorry I know it doesn't always come across in text. Obviously I know this isn't a healthy weight to be so I wouldn't naturally be this weight, although if you look at my weigh ins it feels like it a bit!

Week 1 - 195
Week 2 - 192
Week 3 - 192.2
Week 4 - 195.2
Week 5 - 191.4
Week 6 - 195.4
Week 7 - 195.6 (I do saturday weigh ins so classed this morning)

But I'm following the rules (apart from the pick n mix for which I accept the big stick!) and I'm enjoying the other benefits of this WOE, especially the lack of night sweats. I'm going to just keep on plodding on and trust that the scales will stop pinging back up to 195 and start moving in the right direction.

Thanks @AthelstaneTheUnready I have signed up to the yoga. I hope to have a big event in June. I have a Jessica Rabbit dress that I would love to wear. I have a definite waist but plenty of flab everywhere else. Will it tone me up?

Thank you very much, @BIWI and @AthelstaneTheUnready - off to have a look at the newly-restored column :)

Pleaseandthankyou I swear by and occasionally at the 30-Day Shred for toning up. I first did it in 2014 after I had lost weight and it did wonders for my arms and legs. That and maybe a pair of Spanx and your Jessica Rabbit dress will look amazing.

Hey all! I've been Mia as I'm disappointed in the scales. I'm back upto 315(my starting weight)

No pasta, rice, potatoes, bread,cake or biscuits at all!

I'm eating 2 meals a day. Lunch is either tuna or ham massive salad with full fat mayo or 4 egg omelette with cheddar and ham.

Tea is meat with fat on and green veg in butter. Last night we had fish pie with a double cream sauce with shitloads of cabbage.
I am struggling to drink enough. I occasionally have a square of 70 or 80% Lindt.
I'm so disappointed that the weight just isn't going.

Pandora have you seen any weight loss at all? Or a "ping pong pound" that keeps coming off and going on again? How long have you been eating low carb? What was your diet like beforehand? Have you done any calorie restricted diets in the past, especially extreme ones such as Juice Plus or very low calorie? Could you have an underlying hormone issue such as PCOS, hypothyroid or menopause? In my experience there is sometimes a healing process that needs to take place before weight loss can begin. Have your measurements changed at all? I remember one Bootcamp we had a lady who went down two dress sizes while the number on the scales stayed resolutely the same.

I've lost 3lb over a few weeks.

Been eating low carb since October but only joined bootcamp this time round.

No low cal diets, only slimming world before.

Gp checked all my bloods and all "within normal ranges", not menopausal as hormone levels normal. Gp recommended low carb as I'm pre pre-diabetic.

Had breast cancer, chemo, radiation and mastectomy 2 years ago. Now got heart failure and lymphadema.

My bra was slightly easier to put on this week but I'm living in pjs and sports bras and not taken my measurements.

Are you taking any medication @Pandoraslastchance?

Naproxen(anti inflammatory), ramipril(heart med) venlafaxine(antidepressants)

I've got a friend who's done yoga everyday since beginning of jan and sent me a before and after photo. She looks amazing, especially the difference in her posture. I've tried to do yoga but just dont like it!
My weight had gone back up today but have been on a very long walk today, 14000 steps so hopefully that might help!

I always thought I couldn't do the Shred because it's too tricky I don't have a dvd player. Now I've realised it's on Amazon TV I have no excuse. I might cop out and go for the beginner shred though

@Oneborneverydecade it's on vimeo too. I am strictly team Anita (beginner)

@AthelstaneTheUnready I am 5'3.5"! Snuggles in line with the other little ones! I am married to a 6'6" giant which means I really need to not eat the same portions!

Those talking about lettuce wraps I use it for hot food too and it's good.

@BIWI like the look of your challenge so will join you. Can't really do more than 3 press ups so will be a challenge!

I love yoga, but I think it is the cause of what seemed like back pain but physio thinks is damage to where my hamstrings attach to my pelvis. Result probably of slight hypermobility (can put both hands flat on floor with legs straight) and having had twins each over 6lb. Yoga in a class seems OK as it is more carefully managed. Annoying as when I was doing lots of yoga my posture was great.

Had an old school Delia recipe tonight. Used pork instead of beef as I had it in, added some mushrooms and left out the flour. Was delicious with some cauli rice and kale.

www.deliaonline.com/recipes/international/european/hungarian/braised-beef-goulash-with-smoked-pimenton

Have everything crossed this week for some good results this week!

The first time I did the Shred I was so fit that I struggled to understand why everyone complained about it. Oh, happy days.

We’ve had this Diana Henry recipe for dinner, with fried pak choi and spinach. It was delicious. It does include 1tbsp of sugar. We used jaggery and put in less than that, but it feeds 6-8 so overall not a huge amount. Sorry for the bad photo!

Meant to say I'm 5ft 1. Am I the shortest?!

I am not short (over 6 foot); my target weight is heavier than some of your start weights!

Another vote for little gem lettuces - I like to use them for tacos or fajitas while DH has tortillas.

Also one of my favourite takeaways on boot camp is a London sandwich place that does LettuceWiches - think a Subway sandwich but wrapped in lettuce - so delicious!