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Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 4 - Low Carb Bootcamp - how much chatting?!

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BIWI · 07/02/2021 21:30

So much chatting, I've had to start a new thread.

here's the Spreadsheet of Absolute Fabulousness

Remember, this week (like week 3) is notorious for seeing little or no weight gain, so please don't panic if the scales aren't moving for you - always assuming, of course, that you have been following the rules 100%!

Also, the Very Amazing @StuntNun has started a thread about fasting. Fasting isn't a regular part of Bootcamp, but it's a tool that you can use in your weight loss 'journey' (sorry for the cliché!)

have a look here, and think about if it's something you might want to incorporate into Bootcamp

I hope very much that things are going well for you, and that you're into the swing of things low carb by now; but as ever, post any questions/issue here and let's see if we can help.

Flowers
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NotwatchingSpooks · 08/02/2021 10:07

Morning, I’m up 1.5lbs from last week, I think it must have been the coating on the takeaway ribs we had from a posh ribs and burger restaurant on Saturday night, sigh. I would love to find a takeaway that works for me with this WOE. However we only have one every so often, so I won’t have to think about it again for a while.

However I am reminded that I am still 12.5lbs lighter than when I started in September. Bizarrely, a NSV, I have gone down between 2 and 3 notches on my belt, so I do wonder if I have just retained water, anyway I will KOKO.

Do any of you have a Robotic Vacuum Cleaner ? I’m thinking of getting one as I am so over cleaning up after the dog. Any recommendations or non-recommendations very welcome.

Today
B Greek yogurt
L veg and bacon soup
D leftover roast lamb and veg fried up to make bubble and squeak

NotwatchingSpooks · 08/02/2021 10:09

P.s welcome back BuffyTheBuffetSlayer glad you managed to get your course work done and glad you are back

LittleMy77 · 08/02/2021 10:09

@NotwatchingSpooks I find it’s often salt content in takeaways that make me retain water. Dh is a fitness freak and has a v good diet and can put on and lose 3-4lbs within 3 days of a takeaway because of this

Pandoraslastchance · 08/02/2021 10:16

Lost 3lb this week!! Yay!!

More water!!!

NotwatchingSpooks · 08/02/2021 10:23

Littlemy77 I was extremely thirsty, so I would not be surprised, I was really restrained, and it was so nice to have something different and something that I did not have to cook myself.

LittleMy77 · 08/02/2021 10:27

@NotwatchingSpooks god me too! We had Indian on Friday and it was bloody lovely - tbh I’d have eaten a shoe if it meant neither of us and to think about cooking or actually cook!

Iamnotacerealkiller · 08/02/2021 10:30

Only half a pound off for me, annoyingly it was one and a half yesterday so hopefully that will go again this week. Need to focus more on water. Any strategies for keeping count? I've been trying to have half a pint per hour between 8am and 8pm but it feels very ad hock at the moment working around baby nap times and sometimes delaying drinking to avoid an inconvenient loo trip.

I've skipped bf today just because I didn't fancy anything cold and couldnt be arsed to cook eggs. Boiling a ham for tonight though so will have that with cheese sauce and broccoli and potatoes for the rest of the fam.

Starting to lose interest in food generally which I tend to do week3-4. This is dispite definately feeling hungry.

Fridge is empty until tomorrow's shop which may explain why. Hmm I think I'll need to boil an egg for lunch salad. Really must eat something but struggling with motivation to get up. (It's been a rough few nights with the baby if you can't tell)

Midlifemission · 08/02/2021 10:48

Morning everyone well done for the losses - the lbs all add up so don't worry if it's just a small loss ( or none at all given its week 4 now!)

I have had the most incredible whoosh today which if I didn't use two sets of scales I might not have believed Wink and I am 4lbs down. I am so happy !

I can't believe how much better this WOE has made me feel.

Keep the faith everyone.
Sorry if I am overly cheery when some of you are struggling .. I can't stop smiling !

Doilooklikeatourist · 08/02/2021 10:48

Grrr , DDs just had a phone call from Specsavers , the staff member asked her a few questions then said to make an appointment when Covid is over as she doesn’t have any problems !
There goes my plans for the day !

kilojules · 08/02/2021 10:51

Week 4 already! Well done to everyone on their losses and for those who STS or had a gain let's KOKO and hopefully see the losses next week! I find winter slows down the weight loss. Something about our bodies wanting to go into hibernation mode and hold on to the fat to keep warm 😬
This weekend I've been doing a lot of test runs to find the perfect movie snack 
I've made chiccaron pork crackling, crispy chicken skins, kale crisps.
The easiest were kale crisps although I'm not enamoured by the taste. With a drizzle of vinegar and Parmesan they were not too bad. The pork crackling took a while to make-I tried a couple of recipes including air fryer and the next texture was boiling, oven cook then deep fry. Long winded and kitchen smelt like a chop shop!Chicken skins were really tasty and quicker to make. Seasoned them nicely with cayenne,paprika,Cajun and salt and made them in the air fryer-about 15-20mins.
Plan for today: L: large Greek salad D: salmon with a ton of buttery greens
A bit behind on weight loss entries.25/1 185.9 1/2 185.4 8/2 181.8 @AthelstaneTheUnreadyi would be really grateful if my sheet could be kindly updated.

Have a lovely week ladies and hopefully some of you are getting to enjoy the snow!

Week 4 - Low Carb Bootcamp - how much chatting?!
Frty · 08/02/2021 11:03

One pound off for me, taking me to below 200, yay. I'll just plod on with what I'm doing for as long as it takes.
Have a great week, everyone!

PineappleSunglasses · 08/02/2021 11:12

Well done everyone on your losses! KOKO to those who have stayed the same or gained.

I'm in the gained camp too and was a bit demoralised this morning but it's my TOTM, theres some stress in my family life currently and a busy weekend meant I definitely did not drink as much water as should have done! With all that being said I'm trying not to sweat the small stuff and focussing on the NSVs like the fact I'm sleeping so much better.

This week is a new week and now I'm more determined than ever!

BIWI · 08/02/2021 11:40

@cheeseisthebest I've started with a cold as well! Came on yesterday, completely out of the blue. Sick of blowing my nose already. (No other symptoms, fortunately)

@Fagey/@StuntNun boiled eggs are great in a curry, especially a lentil curry (although that's off limits for now, sadly)

@Onelittlepiglet

I’ve weighed in and am 0.5lb heavier than last week. I’ve been doing this since 1 jan so am in my 6th week. I’ve only lost 1lb in 3 weeks which is quite disheartening. I still have over 1 stone to loose and that’s not to get to a low weight, it’s to get in the upper range of my BMI so it’s not like I’m close to my target either.

Don't worry and please don't get disheartened! You have just been through the Bootcamp equivalent of the doldrums - we know that weeks 3, 4 and sometimes even 5 can be weeks where we see little or no loss, and sometimes even a gain!. Ask yourself - are you enjoying your food? Do you feel deprived? How would you feel if you were on a low fat/low calorie diet? Would you even have stayed on a low fat/low calorie diet for this long?!

Am going to cut right back on dairy and stop having yoghurt and cream. The scales are just not moving for me and I don’t know what else to do.

Cut out the cream and cheese, if you must, but honestly I'd say just keep doing what you're doing. Your food looks lovely and sounds as if it's low carb/high fat.

See what happens this week before you make any changes.

@Elpheba

&1.5lb down after week 4 for me. Wish it was coming off faster as I feel cross at myself that I’ve got so much to lose. But trying to reassure myself that scales are moving in right direction and am finding it easier and easier to resist other food

No point being cross with yourself! That's wasted emotion. Just be pleased that you've lost 1.5lbs, and overall you've lost 5.5lbs. Being realistic, you shouldn't be expecting to be losing massive amounts every week from now on. I know that can feel frustrating, but this is a marathon not a sprint. The weight didn't all go on in one go so it's not going to come off in one go either.

@Bestbees

I don't really understand your post:

Morning. 1lb down so not too bad yesterday considering. I think what I am finding hard is I am the same weight I would be eating toast, big bags of crisps, jacket potatoes, drinking half a bottle of wine

And why did you have the pear?! At 15g carbs per 100g - it's really, really not allowed on Bootcamp.

If you're feeling bingy and hungry (really hungry, not just 'mouth hungry', which is a great expression!) then definitely stop the fasting. I'd also look to up the fat in your meals as your protein choices are fairly lean.

@ZiggZagg

3lbs off for me this week, I'm happy with that little whoosh, hopefully it will continue going down now!!

Great! That's not a little whoosh though - that's a definite whoosh.

@Jollyholibobs

I am just happy that this WOE allows me to feel relaxed around food after over 40 years + of yo-yo dieting and beating myself up

Absolutely. One of the best things about this WOE is that you can really enjoy your food!

I have to say, though, that as you are weighing in at 8 stone 5lbs, you probably really don't have much to lose, so you should expect a bit of bumping up and down. Unless you're incredibly short, you must be in the healthy BMI zone by now?

@Dailyhandtowelwash

I’ve put on and my total loss for this diet is 2.2lbs. I ate cheese twice at the weekend

Gaining weight and slow loss is very, very, VERY unlikely to be because you had cheese twice! It's much more likely to be because you're eating too many carbs, or not eating enough fat/drinking enough water.

Step back and have a look at what you've been eating, and check how well you've been following the rules. And list out for me your food/drinks over the last few days, so I can see if there's anything I can tweak for you.

@MaudesMum

Your menu today looks very sparse! And your lunch in particular.

b: Full fat yoghurt with cinnamon
L: sort of coleslaw with kimchi
D: cauliflower & leek cheesy bake

I'm assuming that you're a vegetarian? But even so, you need to be eating more protein, and just more in general. What sort of lunch is just coleslaw and kimchi?!

Please remember, this WOE is not about deprivation. We don't starve ourselves, and we should be eating plenty of good fats and protein.

This is a great post from @Ninkanink

Also don’t be tempted to cut back on food (unless you are very close to target weight) or especially fat - that will be counterproductive. Eat more veg, eat plenty of fat, drink lots of water. Cheese and cream, fine - halve what you’ve been having and see how you go, or cut out the cheese altogether and have cream (or vice versa)

Remember what I said previously - as fat cells empty they will be filled with water so there is a temporary ‘gain’ (or at least a levelling up) whilst the body does its thing - then, if you keep eating plenty of fat in the meantime, and don’t feed your system any forbidden carbs, the body will at some point process things, expel the water and get rid of the fat cells. That’s when you’ll have the whoosh

Focus on the good food, the long term health benefits, and especially on any NSVs you’ve had

@Cactusowl

I’m in week 6 and gained 0.6lbs this week but was 2.6lbs lighter yesterday

If you were 2.6lbs lighter yesterday, then that will be what you put in the spreadsheet! You won't have gained that much fat overnight.

@Underthebludgeoningsofchance

Yesterday, I made plaintain chips and scoffed most of them. Oops!

That's not an 'oops' that's an epic fail! Why? The fact that you made them is even worse. What were you thinking? Why are you sabotaging yourself like that? There are 32g carbs per 100g of plantain, which is massive!

This WOE is not one where you can cheat. And we're only just starting week 4. You've done really well so far, so why would you want to undo all that good work?

Which brings me to your next post:

Forgot to say, tomorrow is my birthday. I'm planning to have strawberries coated in dark chocolate. I really dislike dark chocolate so guess it will help me limit the numbers!
Does anyone have any ideas for a low carb cake?

I get that it's your birthday - but here again, you're obviously planning on cheating!

The strawberries aren't too bad - 5.8g carbs per 100g - but if you already know that you need to limit yourself somehow, by adding in the chocolate (more carbs!) then why do it? And as for cake - nobody (except small children perhaps!) needs cake on their birthday.

Don't do this to yourself! Give yourself the best birthday present of staying on track and seeing a loss next week.

Welcome back @BuffyTheBuffetSlayer - sorry you've had a stressful time. Now you're (hopefully!) through it, it's a good opportunity to look back and think about the food/drink that you had, and to try and identify other choices that you could have made. Using food/drink as an emotional crutch is something we all do, and it's a very hard habit to break - but it's a good idea to try and think about how you might deal with it next time. Because, sadly, there will be a next time!

As to your other question, what do you mean by 'fatter without putting on weight'?

@Lyrata

Sorry you had a bad day yesterday and I hope you're feeling better now. I'm not sure the cream crackers were the best idea though - half a packet of Jacob's Cream Crackers will have cost you 102g carbs! At least the scales have been kind to you today. Hopefully if you're super strict then the impact won't have been too bad.

@NotwatchingSpooks

However I am reminded that I am still 12.5lbs lighter than when I started in September. Bizarrely, a NSV, I have gone down between 2 and 3 notches on my belt, so I do wonder if I have just retained water, anyway I will KOKO

Very good post. Always good to step back and get an overall perspective on things! And also a very good example of why just using the scales to measure our progress isn't always the best. If your clothes are fitting better, this is a much more realistic way to show progress.

@Iamnotacerealkiller sounds like you're having a bit of a rough time - I don't envy you/anyone those early baby days! I would definitely try and eat something though as you do need to get good nutrition - and please don't stop drinking. That's equally important.

Also - half a pound lost is half a pound!

@PineappleSunglasses

I'm in the gained camp too and was a bit demoralised this morning but it's my TOTM, theres some stress in my family life currently and a busy weekend meant I definitely did not drink as much water as should have done! With all that being said I'm trying not to sweat the small stuff and focussing on the NSVs like the fact I'm sleeping so much better

Sorry you've gained, but absolutely this is the right perspective to have.

Flowers to everyone - good luck for the rest of the week.

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Fagey · 08/02/2021 11:43

@StuntNun @BIWI

I don't normally like hard boiled eggs.

But I'm willing to try I think to get some more protein into a veg curry.

BIWI · 08/02/2021 11:47

@RagzReturnsRebooted

Sorry, I missed your post at the end of last week's chat thread. Yes, those carb counts look fine to me!

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Ninkanink · 08/02/2021 11:49

@Underthebludgeoningsofchance further to what @BIWI said about birthdays/cheating, I’d leave the cake and maybe make some type of darkish chocolate and peanut butter or similar bites instead. With a glass of something nice, that and your strawberries will be a lovely treat. Cake is overrated, a lot of the time.

felippertyfeck · 08/02/2021 11:54

Those who haven't lost I feel your pain and well done to those who have shed a few more pounds. Was my son's birthday and I made a slight error of judgment, had Wagamama bang bang cauliflower .... didn't look at macros just assumed that as it was cauliflower it would be fine :( 40g carbs per portion I was gobsmacked when I checked - after I'd eaten two portions! I had a little wine, no cake or anything like that and I'm back to carb craving. Having to seriously keep to bootcamp bootcamp to get them back under control this week. Good luck all for the coming week : )

cheeseisthebest · 08/02/2021 12:01

How about for your birthday you have some lovely cheese? A little cheese platter with some olives and smoked salmon. Mmm.

How are you feeling BIWI? I realised mine was hayfever which is ridiculous, took an antihistamine which helped a lot but am now very sleepy! Coffee helped. Hope you feel better. X

I've just had a delicious early lunch/late breakfast - 2 soft boiled eggs mashed with butter, half an avocado and smoked salmon with lots of salt and pepper. Incredible. I savoured every mouthful!

cheeseisthebest · 08/02/2021 12:02

I get smoked salmon every week now as a lockdown treat. We get our shopping from asda, home delivery, so it's very reasonably priced!

plumstone · 08/02/2021 12:09

Hello Hello!! Completely forgot to weigh in this morning!! Weekend was fine though, nothing to report - except for the first time in years, I snacked when watching a movie last night. Started at 9pm and normally that would have me in bed watching it - but last night, I though no I'll stay up till 11:15pm when it finished so rock n' roll my life!!

Got to 10pm and was peckish, so had cheese slices and parma ham - so good - on the basis of cheese slice chat last week, I forgot how good they were!! Try not to eat processed ham too often - but it was yum.

B - IF seems to becoming a habit so nothing other than two black coffees
L - will be spinach, cucumber, celery, with smoked salmon and olive oil
D - haddock, roasted broccoli and cauli rice.
W - 2 down 2 to go!

I have a question - has anyone investigated the Gordons alcohol free gin I keep seeing it advertised and am very curious - I want something for a Friday night that can be mixed with Soda - Am trying not to drink for vanity not health - and feel I need something!

Great News on the losses

BIWI · 08/02/2021 12:11

@cheeseisthebest I'm feeling fine, thanks! Just a runny nose. I sound a bit hoarse this morning, but I suspect I was probably snoring last night Blush.

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Bestbees · 08/02/2021 12:14

@BIWI sorry it wasn't clear. I put on two lb week before. Lost one this week. So I started in Jan with my Christmas 6lb. Lost them. And then (apart from the pear) I have been strict and remain the weight I have always been on a carby diet. I know the pear was bad. I was definitely not hungry and am cross I did it. I am koko though!

cheeseisthebest · 08/02/2021 12:17

Similar to me and my son's the same! Strange isn't it. I was only thinking yesterday that none of us have had a cold.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 08/02/2021 12:27

@BIWI you got most of my food last week!

I'm probably not eating enough of anything. I have very little appetite and I feel a bit nauseous at the fattiness of things at the moment.

Yesterday:

Lunch: roast ham, celeriac roasted in beef dripping, stir-fried cabbage and a tiny amount of mashed swede with carrot (with butter)
Dinner: two sausages (butcher says at least 85% meat but not sure of exact percentage), celery with boursin - had to force myself to eat something
Miniscule glass of white wine - I was feeling very fed up

Dailyhandtowelwash · 08/02/2021 12:29

The cheese apology was because I've been having very little luck losing weight all along and had reduced it. My other cheese crime was meatzza on Saturday with mozzarella on it (along with chorizo, spinach and mushroom). Wasn't hungry for anything at lunch time.

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