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Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Paisleycountry1985 · 20/01/2021 20:25

Good day today. Very busy at work so no distractions.

B - ff greek yoghurt and double cream
L - 2 boiled eggs and ham salad with mayo
D - home made burger, cheese, bacon and those fabulous shoogle Brussels

2.5 litre water and 4 peppermint teas

cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 20:48

Brilliant thank you will try that!

cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 20:51

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Justcallmecaptainobvious · 20/01/2021 20:53

@cheeseisthebest great!

DulcetMoans · 20/01/2021 20:58

Congrats on the new job @ziggzagg - great news!

Totally with you @justcallmecaptainobvious - love cooking in butter now. It's making a meal really.

With you on the soup thing @ouchmyfeet I just need a slab of bread for it to be worthwhile. Otherwise it's just a drink.

Still not nailing the water here, I need to start stronger and stop remembering at lunch time!

B-yoghurt and mixed spice
L-halloumi and butter mange tout and spinach
D-steak and garlic buttered veg

Almahart · 20/01/2021 21:08

@Lyrata

Incidentally, if anyone else is in London I just went to order from one of my favourite butchers and it came up with 15% off for first orders over £50. It also did not complain about the fact that it definitely wasn’t my first order! www.hgwalter.com/

Just thought I’d share the link - I really like their meat and they do a lot of relatively decently priced bits, although not quite as cheaply as the amazing restaurant website BIWI shared last week.

But they DO sell a lot of bones and offal and that sort of thing. I initially found them because I needed to get pork bones for ramen and they were relatively cheap. Imagine my surprise when I turned up to collect them and found a beautiful bourgeois butcher and not a dodgy slaughter house type place as I had imagined.

I’ve just ordered a load of bone marrow, oxtail and beef shin to make a stew next week.

Thanks so much for this, it looks great. @BIWI I missed the restaurant site you shared, I'd be really grateful if you could tell me what it was!

Good day here, yoghurt for breakfast, tuna and salad for lunch and fish pie for dinner. It's much easier to lc without office, pub, or social life!

prettybird · 20/01/2021 21:15

[quote Ifeelmuchlessfat]@prettybird

prettybird

“...on the app, it's dead easy but I never use the mobile site.“

I think I’m on the app Hmm on my iPhone. It sits on my homepage.
What do I do?[/quote]
If you've downloaded the App from the App Store, it will show up on one of the pages of your iPhone.

This is what your post looks like to me

If I swipe left near your name (where the < is beside the time), then I get something like this (difficult to take a picture at the same time as swiping Wink)

I then press on the Bookmark sign.

Next time I go into the thread, it will open at that post.

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BIWI · 20/01/2021 21:23

@Almart I think it was Northcote

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Lyrata · 20/01/2021 21:36

BIWI also shared this one! cspfoodtoyourhome.company.site/

Lyrata · 20/01/2021 21:38

I think anyway! It’s on my list to try once I create some more freezer space.

Ifeelmuchlessfat · 20/01/2021 21:59

@prettybird

Ah ok, no I just ‘send’ threads I’m following to my homepage so actually using safari not the app. It looks very different.

I’ll download app and take it from there, thanks for your patience.

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prettybird · 20/01/2021 22:15

The app is easy but does have its shortcomings Wink You can't search in a thread for example. But it's quick to scroll through and you can spot your own posts and those of the OPs easily as the posting names are in a different colour.

You also can't PM from it Sad

Almahart · 20/01/2021 22:24

Thank you @Lyrata and @BIWI

ChristMyArse · 20/01/2021 23:49

Evening all.

Not read the latest billion posts 😁 so will have a read of those tomorrow.

Not a great day here food wise.

B - omelette with veg and cheese
L - no lunch - didn't mean to miss it but actually forgot about it
D - tuna mayo and cheese

Not been hungry today - very odd for me.

4ltrs of water and teapigs

BIWI · 20/01/2021 23:55

@ChristMyArse

Not been hungry today - very odd for me

One of the best benefits of low carbing!

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Elpheba · 21/01/2021 07:13

Does anyone have any advice/experience for heartburn and staying low carb? I take a daily dose of lansoperazole in the morning but I find drinking lots of liquid really triggers my acid reflux. I really struggle to get my water intake to the level it needs to be as if I drink lots I find I need to then take antacids which have sugar in. Feels like a catch 22- if I don’t drink enough water then this won’t work properly, if I do I end up undoing my hard work with antacids.

Bestbees · 21/01/2021 07:35

Morning all.
@Elpheba does it make a difference what liquids you drink? Does say tea have less of an effect? Sympathises as I have a bad back and the naproxen gives me terrible reflux.

My back has flared up so I am drugged up ready to face a day of homeschooling plus remote a level teaching from home. Waaah!!

Plan today
B mushrooms in garlic herb cream cheese in lettuce wraps
L omelette with ham and all the left over veg in my fridge, salad and tzatziki left from yesterday.
D meatballs in a tomato and mozerella sauce from diet doctor site.

All the water!!

Elpheba · 21/01/2021 07:49

Thanks @bestbees- sorry to hear about your back, not conducive to home school/a level teaching general pandemic stress I imagine.

I avoid fizzy and alcohol anyway because it’s so bad- which helps with boot camp! Tea is probably the thing I can tolerate most- i drink Earl grey with a bit of milk so hopefully not too much dairy but I guess a bit more dairy is better than the sugar in antacids? (She says- even though she mainlines cheese all day every day Blush)

ListenLinda · 21/01/2021 07:51

Morning everyone! Last night I managed to get the extra bottle of water down before going to bed! After the 70th pee (slight exaggeration 😂) I decided to have a mid week jump on the scales, to see if they had shifted! Well I’m blown away 😄 even more determined for the rest of the week now!

Made a green veg soup yesterday, but it is really watery, I tried to drain as much water as I could before blitzing, but it really doesn’t look appealing Sad
So not right sure what I will be having for lunch today.

Bestbees · 21/01/2021 08:04

@ListenLinda could you fry up some more veg/shredded chicken/ ham to add to a portion then freeze the rest as a kind of base?

@Elpheba thank you. Perhaps the carbs in tea are worth it for you for now, if it stops or limits the reflux. All got to find our own balance on this I guess.

Motivateinmotion · 21/01/2021 08:14

@Elpheba how about hot water on its own? I’ve a friend who has acid reflux and she drinks water hot/once it’s cooled and finds that can sooth it.

Thanks to all those who suggested setting some interim goals and keeping a record of BMI changes. Seeing losses is more way than one is amazing so pounds, BMI and inches. I’ve set the next goals and am excited to get there!

Plan for today:
B- Greek yoghurt, cream & cinnamon
L- egg & bacon Mayo on toast with salad
D- salmon & halloumi salad with olive tapenade

Oxo, 3 coffee with almond milk, 3l water

Dailyhandtowelwash · 21/01/2021 08:17

@ListenLinda can you add some cheese or cream to thicken it?

Today I’m another pound down so am now into those Christmas ones. It won’t really feel very exciting to lose weight until I’m actually not just correcting my recent weight gain but heading down from the last set point, if that makes sense? I’d been gaining and losing the same 4lbs for months and I’m keen to say goodbye to them.

ListenLinda · 21/01/2021 08:29

@Dailyhandtowelwash it does have a block of brie in already, I may add cream when i’m heating it up and see if that helps, thanks!

Onelittlepiglet · 21/01/2021 08:29

Well done on the new job @ZiggZagg!

I’m also making a green soup today @ListenLinda - I usually try not to add too much stock so it stays thick. Also adding broccoli or cauliflower helps to make it thicker I find. I’m using leeks as my base with courgette and some spinach. The leeks are good because they don’t go as watery as courgettes and spinach do!

I think I’m in the dreaded week three slump as the scales haven’t moved all week! Luckily they haven’t gone up, but it’s still quite annoying as I’ve been sticking rigidly to the rules. Will keep going and hope next week is better.

Plan for today is
B - none (IF)
L - Greek veg soup with some cream and cheese
D - scrambled egg and smoked salmon with more buttered green veg.
Having smaller meals today as I’m very hungry at all at the moment which is a nice feeling!

Hope everyone has good days!

Margaritawithlime · 21/01/2021 08:35

@Dailyhandtowelwash totally understand that. I’m heading back down towards my usual set point (thanks Christmas) and I know I’ll be stuck there for a while. Blummin hate the things.