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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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Ninkanink · 20/01/2021 18:38

@Swallowedbyasnake

I’ve discovered that when I am too goal orientated I get obsessive. From reading Atomic Habits and Tiny Habits instead of having a goal weight I am making the process the goal, so focusing on each successful meal, celebrating finding something new and tasty to eat, enjoying the feeling of eating rich flavoursome food and nourishing my body instead of punishing it with the starvation diets I have done previously.
On bootcamp we call these NSVs: Non-scale victories.

It’s a great way of life/way of eating for enjoying the journey! 😊

PineappleSunglasses · 20/01/2021 18:41

Okay that's great, buttering the spinach as we speak! Thank you for your help very much appreciated

LostaraYil · 20/01/2021 18:41

Congrats ZiggZagg!
Interesting chat about the oils, I've gradually stopped using veg oil because I think the other options like butter and coconut oil just taste better, DH still insists on buying veg oil and using it for some meals. Now I will have some arguments to convince him...
B: none, long term IFer
L: leftover bolognese sauce with kale and some hm coleslaw
D: salmon with sprouts and broccoli in butter

Lyrata · 20/01/2021 18:47

Well done, @ZiggZagg - I hope you enjoy some well deserved low-carb celebrations!

And thank you for the supportive messages. You’re right, @Bestbees - this WOE is a far better way to get through stress than self-medicating with carbs that just create a bit of a roller-coaster!

@Dailyhandtowelwash I went for a run and that helped even me out a bit. I’ve felt almost electric zaps of anxiety across my chest all day and the run seems to have calmed me down. I will now crochet until I feel fully calm.

@cheeseisthebest your username is so pleasingly apt.

StuntNun · 20/01/2021 18:56

Oneborn Awfully Posh pork scratchings are just pork and salt so they might be a good choice. Mr Porky's, on the other hand, are full of rubbish like dextrose.

Ifeelmuchlessfat · 20/01/2021 18:59

Re: bookmarks, I’m on a mobile.
I tried swiping left, nothing happened.
Swipe right and I get a page but can’t see how to bookmark still - apologies if I’m being dim.
I thought it would be under the 3 dots top right of post but it’s not..

prettybird · 20/01/2021 19:02

Are you using the app or the mobile site?

prettybird · 20/01/2021 19:02

...on the app, it's dead easy but I never use the mobile site.

prettybird · 20/01/2021 19:03

...so I don't know about the mobile site.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 19:09

@Lyrata nothing like a run for cheering yourself up, although I like the fact it can then be followed by a bath too.

Re Curly Girl, I’ve also drastically reduced how often I wash my hair, no more than twice a week. It does make a difference. I will get some Olaplex No 3 if that’s the one? Got some No. 6 in an advent calendar but haven’t tried it yet.

Dailyhandtowelwash · 20/01/2021 19:10

@Oneborneverydecade Chef tells me he has postponed winter salad as it’s too cold, and is now serving the duck with roasted cauliflower steaks topped with goats cheese and harissa, and creamed leeks. I’m not sure whether duck and goats cheese is a happy union, but we shall see.

Ninkanink · 20/01/2021 19:27

Congratulations @ZiggZagg! 🎉🎉

Doilooklikeatourist · 20/01/2021 19:35

@Lyrata , we're on the moving hell rollercoaster too , accepted an offer just before Christmas, then everything went quiet for 2 weeks as all the lawyers closed down for Christmas
Survey ( on our place ) done , big BIG problem is we can't find anywhere we want to move too ...
hey Ho !
Well done @ZiggZagg 💐 not 🍾

So , today
B scrambled eggs in butter
L veg soup ( courgettes , leeks , broccoli stalk , onion ) cooked down in goose fat ❤️ Hope it's allowed , stock and cream . Yum
D roast chicken ( I ate some of the skin as my starter ) broc , cauli cheese and roast cauli as the slightly samey veg
Need to shop for some more greens tomorrow

Rshard · 20/01/2021 19:38

Congratulations ziggzagg!!

Also have curly hair, have never tried the curly girl method but use cheap boots curl creme which mostly controls it.

cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 19:43

I also tried swiping left on the app and through chrome? Nothing happens.

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 20/01/2021 19:46

On chrome on an iPhone, this is how messages appear to me, I just click the shape next to the word bookmark, and it bookmarks that post. (I don’t use any other ways to access MN, so can’t help on any others, sorry!)

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 19:55

The word bookmark doesnt appear for me? Strange!

cheeseisthebest · 20/01/2021 20:02

Just looks like this and cant swipe?

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread
Ifeelmuchlessfat · 20/01/2021 20:03

@prettybird

prettybird

“...on the app, it's dead easy but I never use the mobile site.“

I think I’m on the app Hmm on my iPhone. It sits on my homepage.
What do I do?

Motivateinmotion · 20/01/2021 20:10

Congrats @ZiggZagg

@nowlook fellow psoriasis sufferer here too and hoping this WOE might reduce inflammation and improve my skin. Am also noticing extra blotchiness on my face and thought it could be a psoriasis flare so will see how it pans out as the weeks go on.

Meals today
B - Greek yoghurt, cream, cinnamon
L - chicken, aubergine, lettuce with homemade olive tapenade (kamalata olives, garlic oil, dried thyme blitzed)
D - egg & bacon lardons Mayo on seriously low bread. Should have had some veg or salad really so hoping it won’t affect too much

1 oxo, 3 coffees with almond milk, 3.5l water

BrassicaBabe · 20/01/2021 20:10

Phew caught up.

Interesting chat about oils. Thanks.

Coleslaw. I have a finger chopping mandolin. I use white cabbage, onion and carrot mixed with mayonnaise. I know onion and carrot and yellow and red (or even both red). I really must weight it all out the next time I make one to see what the carb count actually is.

L: full disclosure? Even though it's bad?! Pork scratchings and 2 snack pepperami. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I know. I got caught out with back to back conf call meetings.
D: pan fried plaice and buttered savoy
Heaps of peppermint tea.

Do you know you can buy chicken skin?! Has anyone been brave enough to buy some?!

I've added samphire to my online basket. Will be interested to see where it comes from. Pretty sure the wild samphire season is June to August ish. And no clue if it's farmed. Anyway, will make a nice change

ouchmyfeet · 20/01/2021 20:13

@Swallowedbyasnake

I’ve discovered that when I am too goal orientated I get obsessive. From reading Atomic Habits and Tiny Habits instead of having a goal weight I am making the process the goal, so focusing on each successful meal, celebrating finding something new and tasty to eat, enjoying the feeling of eating rich flavoursome food and nourishing my body instead of punishing it with the starvation diets I have done previously.
This resonates with me, I'm going to try to think of it this way.

I've been a bit hungrier than yesterday and have snacked on a hard boiled egg. Plenty of water again and lots of green and herbal tea.

B: boiled eggs mashed up with butter and S&P
L: cauliflower cheese soup with a dash of double cream and a hard boiled egg
D: chicken thighs with chorizo and double cream. FLGV.

I might have to steer away from soups for a while. If feels so wrong to have them without bread and I just don't feel satisfied without it.

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 20/01/2021 20:15

@cheeseisthebest I think I’ve figured it out for you. Scroll to the top of this page, tap on the down arrow on the right. Select “Customise”. Then one of the options is a checkbox labelled “display bookmark links”. Select that. Fingers crossed that may help...

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 20/01/2021 20:16

Oh and “save changes” after you select “display bookmark links”

flossiegrippiter · 20/01/2021 20:23

B: slice of ham, babybel and a coffee with cream
L: chicken broth soup with a bit of cream added (and chunks of roasted chicken)
D: mushroom, spinach, shallot and chicken in a creamy Boursin sauce

Water only 2L so far so def need to up that tonight!

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