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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Low Carb Lockdown Bootcamp - Jan 21 - Week 1 chat thread

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BIWI · 17/01/2021 21:49

Welcome everyone! Hopefully you've found the easing-in week helpful, and it's given you time to get all the Christmas carby stuff out of the way, and to plan for this WOE (way of eating).

Here's a link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness which is managed and cherished by The Very Lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready. If your name isn't on there, and you want it to be, just add your name to the bottom of the list. Don't try and insert it in the right alphabetical place, and DON'T TOUCH THE BLUE CELLS!

(If you're using your phone you'll probably have to download the Google Sheets app to be able to access the spreadsheet.)

Before we get going, I need to post my disclaimer:

I am not a medic and I have absolutely no scientific training (beyond O-levels in Biology, Chemistry and Physics!). I'm not a dietician or a nutritionist. The advice given here is based on my own experiences as well as lots and lots of reading, but you follow it at your own 'risk'. I hope it's not a risk, but you know what I mean! If you are taking any medication currently, especially if you're hypertensive or a diabetic, please discuss this with your GP or practice nurse; low carbing should help to lower your blood pressure and can help lower your blood sugar levels, which would mean that the dosage you're taking may need to be reduced.

So let's get going ...

Some/many of you may have done Bootcamp before, but it's still worth reminding yourself about low carbing and the rules.

Firstly - how do you do low carb?

There are lots of different ways and plans! Each will have different levels of carbohydrate per day that is recommended. Keto and the first stage of Atkins (induction) are the strictest, with a maximum of 20g carbs per day.

On Bootcamp we don't count carbs (or calories). There are ten rules which you need to follow, which should ensure that you see good weight loss, without needing to weigh or count your food.

Specifically on Bootcamp this is what we do:

First, you don't eat any:

  • bread
  • pasta (brown or white)
  • rice (ditto, brown or white)
  • potatoes, sweet potatoes, sweetcorn
  • flour/anything made with flour - so no cake, biscuits, pastry, pastries, thickened sauces, crumble toppings, batter)
  • sugar (which includes honey, agave syrup, molasses)
  • fruit juice
  • full sugar fizzy drinks/squash/cordial
  • sweets and chocolate (with the exception of the very occasional piece of dark chocolate, which should be at least 70% cocoa, and then only after the first two weeks of Bootcamp)
  • pulses/legumes (including peas)
  • artificial sweeteners
  • balsamic vinegar (all other vinegars are fine - this one is sweetened, which rules it out)

For the first two weeks of Bootcamp, you also don't eat any fruit, nuts or seeds, and don't drink any alcohol. After the first two weeks, you can introduce some fruit - mainly berries - and some nuts/seeds, but in strict moderation. And you may have the occasional drink of alcohol.

What can I eat, you may ask?!

  • any meat or fish (taking care to avoid processed products as much as possible, e.g. ham, bacon, crab sticks, etc)
  • most shellfish
  • eggs, as many as you want
  • plenty of good fats (this is a high fat diet), so butter, olive oil, avocado oil, coconut oil, lard
  • cheese, full fat yoghurt and cream
  • plenty of veg and salads - this is where your carbs should mainly come from

The ten Bootcamp rules are:

1. Eat three proper meals a day
If you're new to low carbing, you must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, and it doesn’t have to be absolutely first thing, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food at mealtimes then you shouldn’t be hungry between meals. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack).
After the first two weeks of Bootcamp we will relax this, but these two weeks are critical in terms of helping you switch easily to a low carb way of eating - and if you start to feel hungry, it makes things much harder! Eating this way will ensure that your blood sugar levels are kept stable, which will mean that you are much less likely to experience hunger.
A typical high carbohydrate diet can mean that snacking is a routine part of your day. Once your blood sugar levels are stable, by eating low carb, you should find that you no longer want to snack. But the rule of thumb here is ‘if you are hungry, eat!’. (Just make sure you are only choosing low carb snacks, of course!)

If you're an old hand at low carbing, you may decide to skip breakfast (or another meal if that works best for you). This leads us to intermittent fasting, which can be hugely significant in terms of weight loss as well as delivering lots of other health benefits.

2. Avoid processed foods
Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals - meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. You can have them, but just not every day. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, eg. Atkins bars.

3. Eat lots of fat
Eating fat will not make you fat. Honestly! But it will keep your appetite satisfied, and it sustains your body’s energy requirements perfectly. Fat does not provoke an insulin spike, unlike carbs which do (a lot) and protein (a little). Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food
This is where your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. Make sure that you focus on eating those vegetables that are 3-4g carb per 100g or less, and this will ensure that your carb counts are kept low. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.

5. Be careful about dairy (apart from butter, which is unlimited)
Dairy can impede weight loss for some people. If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. There are a lot of carbs in milk, so if you are having several cups of tea/coffee per day, you will quickly rack up your daily carb count (e.g. 1 medium latte contains more than 12g carbs!) You may eat cheese but again, don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day
The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:
Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour. However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol
Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit
Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After the first two weeks of Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds
They make a great snack, but it’s also very easy to eat large quantities of them very quickly, so you can consume way too many carbs this way

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners
Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat. Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

So having dealt with the rules, what else do we need to think about?

The key to success is planning and preparation.

First thing is to get rid of anything in your cupboards/fridge/freezer that might tempt you. (As far as you can, give it to other members of your household!)

Next, plan what you're going to eat, and make sure you have all the ingredients that you need. If you need any inspiration, go and browse the recipes which are stickied at the top of the Low Carb Bootcamp topic.

If you don't know anything/much about low carbing make sure you read up about it. It's really important that you understand the science behind it and how it works. Have a look at the spreadsheet, and you'll see on there (on one of the tabs) a whole load of resources - videos, articles, websites etc - which are invaluable.

One of the truly amazing things about a low carb diet is that it will bring many health benefits beyond just weight loss - and you can read about those there.

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BIWI · 21/01/2021 08:51

@ListenLinda can you fry up some more veg to add to the soup?

@Elpheba sorry to hear about the reflux. I had a bout of that a while ago and it was very unpleasant. If tea works for you, then go for that, but I'd try to cut down/out the milk as much as you can. And try the hot water too - if I get IBS cramping (thankfully very rare when I'm low carbing) I do find that hot water with slices of lemon in it seems to help, and as @Motivateinmotion says, it's very soothing.

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NotwatchingSpooks · 21/01/2021 09:07

Congratulations ZiggZagg lovely news

BIWI · 21/01/2021 09:18

[quote Margaritawithlime]@Dailyhandtowelwash totally understand that. I’m heading back down towards my usual set point (thanks Christmas) and I know I’ll be stuck there for a while. Blummin hate the things.[/quote]
The set points are really irritating! But if you know what yours is, then plan ahead for it, and make sure you're super strict when you approach it/reach it - hopefully that will help you 'power through' it Smile

Mine is coming up soon ...

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Frty · 21/01/2021 09:21

Hi @Elpheba - camomile tea can also help, if you don't mind the taste.

I can't keep up with all the posts! That's a good sign, right?
Today is food shopping day (my only outing at the moment, so I'm super-excited) and I'm in the process of making a list so I've got enough stuff in (like double the amounts of eggs & spinach that I planned last week).

I hope no-body is too badly affected by storm Christopher - our neighbours are getting their roof replaced and I really feel for those roofers.

Good day to all!

1stMrsF · 21/01/2021 09:52

Morning! I felt really hungry this morning, and a bit wobbly, and this is very odd for me as I have been mostly fasting until lunch for a couple of years now. I think that perhaps the curry I had last night didn't have enough fat in it. Ate a hardboiled egg and a slice of smoked salmon and now feel fine. Plan for today:
B - egg, smoked salmon
L - Tomato, mozzerella and avocado with olive oil and possibly some cold chicken
D - LC Moussaka made with slices of aubergine and courgette (no potato) I've already got the lamb mince base in the freezer having made a double portion last time, so just need to put it together and cook.

venusandmars · 21/01/2021 10:07

Today - water, water, water, veg, veg, veg!

Even though we are low carb, I still aim for 5 portions of veg per day, and also aim to 'eat a rainbow' each week. Of course that means a little bit of higher carb veg at times - carrots, peppers, tomatoes - and it takes a bit of effort to find the darker colours (red cabbage, radicchio, black olives, purple kale, aubergine) - but for me, I need this way of eating to be really sustainable and healthy in the long term.

Some of the daily menus posted have very few veg listed, sometimes just a mention of salad leaves. I hope people are eating a mountain of salad, as well as a FLGV and that it's maybe just missed out of the post...

However, on the veggie theme, I picked up the most recent Tesco magazine which is all vegetarian (in honour of veganuary, I think). I had to throw it away in irritation. Of course it's not low carb, but the recipes still promote all the low fat products. So there's the 'healthy treats' recipes which have dates, sugar, fruit, flour and LOW-FAT cream cheese. Grrrr!

So food today:
B - vegetable, egg, cheese muffin with butter fried mushrooms
L - avocado and ham salad (huge salad with mixed leaves, celery, radishes, cucumber, coleslaw*)
D - salmon wrapped in pancetta, spinach, cauliflower

  • someone asked about coleslaw recipes... I use only cabbage and carrot. In mayonnaise with a bit of full fat yogurt (Tesco finest Greek with 10g fat) and a dod of horseradish sauce. Horseradish sauce can be a bit carby, but I don't use much. That's day 1. Day 2 I add grated cheese for extra creaminess. Day 3 I add chopped chicken sliced raw mushrooms for a complete salad served on lettuce. It just gets better and better!
nowlook · 21/01/2021 10:20

Day 3 sounds delicious @venusandmars!

After much trial and error, I think I've found a water system that works for me. I have four 500ml bottles of water on my desk filled with soda and a splash of fresh lime juice. I fill two of them up again at lunchtime and then switch to tea in the late afternoon.

52andblue · 21/01/2021 10:41

B: wilted kale (2 large handfuls) plus 2 eggs fried in the kale butter
L: green veg soup with cheddar on top
D: fatty pork chop, broccoli, pak choi
MUST increase the water...

Lyrata · 21/01/2021 10:43

I’ve read some VERY interesting stuff about the massive push towards Veganism being funded by industry actors who benefit from people eating more grains... whereas LC diets are quite difficult for them to profit from because it’s all fresh meat, fish, vegetables and dairy without many opportunities for them to process it and profit. Actually apparently restorative farming is just as beneficial for the environment if not more so. Everyone says Veganism is sustainable but actually a lot of vegan food is not sustainable at all if eaten out of season and therefore flown from half-way across the world...

Wanted to quickly share an interesting recipe I found for Greek shakshuka - I would remove the peas (mostly because I don’t like them):
www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/green-shakshuka

BIWI · 21/01/2021 10:51

For all those asking about coleslaw, there is a recipe on the vegetarian recipe thread:

Coleslaw

125g white cabbage (less than 1/4 of a cabbage)
75g carrot (1 medium-sized carrot)
25g shallot (1/2 a banana/echalion shallot)

Slice white cabbage thinly
Grate carrot finely (don't use the largest holes on the grater)
Chop shallot finely

Add oil and wine vinegar - roughly 3 tablespoons oil and 1 tablespoon vinegar, and salt and black pepper. Stir everything well together. Leave for half an hour or so. Just before serving, stir in a tablespoon of mayo.

This will make 2 portions

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ouchmyfeet · 21/01/2021 10:59

Thanks for the coleslaw recipes folks, I will give them all a go and work out which I like best. Coleslaw is one of the few dishes I can be bothered to get my food processor out for but it's so worth it. FWIW I love thinly sliced celery and spring onions in with my cabbage and carrots

pinkpinkeverywhere · 21/01/2021 11:02

Yay! I've caught up, every time I thought I had I refreshed again and more messages popped up.

I'm late to the party, but congratulation @ZiggZagg on your new job Flowers

Thank you to everyone who recommended the Renpho scales. They arrived yesterday so I've set them up and love having a digital reading as well as it going straight to my phone. One downside though, I put on 6lbs immediately as our old scales were so inaccurate. I've updated the spreadsheet but feel a bit deflated by being even heavier than I realised - all my own fault and mainly due to lockdown 1 as before that I had lost quite a bit.

I'm please other people are saying how they get half way through a meal and then can't eat any more, I'm literally fine and then the next moment I can't bare to put the next spoonful in my mouth. Let's hope this is reflected on my 'new' scales Grin

Justcallmecaptainobvious · 21/01/2021 11:08

@Lyrata I absolutely agree, whilst I have no problem with veganism I think the sustainability benefits are vastly exaggerated. If we want to push sustainability we should focus on eating locally and seasonally.

Children conspired against me last night, so I’m running on three hours sleep...

Today’s menu:

B - yoghurt with double cream and vanilla (yum) and a bacon rasher pinched off DH’s plate...
L - smoked haddock, poached egg, hollandaise, veg
D - turkey stir fry.

Plus several espressos (with cream) so far!

wanderlove · 21/01/2021 11:19

Hi all. I had a nightmare start as our oven broke on Monday and lots of the food I'd bought relied on it! However all fixed now and have had a good day yesterday:
Breakfast: Greek yoghurt
Dinner:Brie and chicken salad
Tea: green curry with cauliflower rice.

Just about to do a omelette for breakfast today. Just had a two hour online lesson to teach so a bit of a delay. Have salmon out for tea. Drinking bulletproof coffee (decaf) and herbal teas as well as water to get the hydration up.

Desperately wanting to get back to pre-baby weight before trying to conceive again so that is keeping me going.

nowlook · 21/01/2021 11:29

@pinkpinkeverywhere Sorry about your scales- exactly the same thing happened to me when I got the Renpho ones a couple of years ago. Clearly remember weeping about it on here too!

Dailyhandtowelwash · 21/01/2021 11:33

I put on half a stone too when I changed scales. It's brutal.

prettybird · 21/01/2021 11:34

Well, the first of my mini goals has been achieved: under 11.5 stone Smile Stepped on the scales this morning and was 11st 6.75lb. Smile

Only 4lb to go to get back to where I was just before Christmas Smile

Bumbledee · 21/01/2021 11:38

Congratulations @ZiggZagg!

I’ve never made coleslaw before because I am not very fond of it, I’ve usually found it a bit too sweet. However all these recipes are inspiring me to try it. How finely sliced/chopped should the vegetables be? I don’t have a food processor or a mandolin but I do have a hand held chopper attachment with my blender.

@venusandmars I get what you’re saying about the amount of vegetables people are eating. I think it is people’s perception of what a lot of vegetables look like. And I believe many of us may well increase our veg intake by the end of the 10 week period of LCHF. Smile

B: buttery scrambled eggs and salami
L: stuffed peppers with spinach and lamb mince and topped with haloumi and tomatoes. Served on a bed of salad and broccoli
D: I have two random main ingredients that I need to use up- a swede and sausage meat from Christmas which I didn’t end up using. Any recipes anyone?

pinkpinkeverywhere · 21/01/2021 11:39

@nowlook and @Dailyhandtowelwash I'm glad you understand. Brutal is the word and my husband can't see the issue - even though he's put on 6lbs too!

StuntNun · 21/01/2021 11:41

Lyrata IMO veganism is a swizz. How can people believe that farming vegetables doesn't kill animals? Or don't they care about the insects, birds and rodents killed by modern farming practices, do they only care about cute lambs and cows? How can cutting down rainforest so you can grow hectares of soya monocrop be good for the environment? Does anyone seriously believe that cow farts are causing global warming? And then we're supposed to believe that a diet chronically short in fat soluble vitamins is somehow more healthy?!

Dailyhandtowelwash · 21/01/2021 11:43

@StuntNun methane is a massive contributor to climate change though. Around a quarter of global warming is attributable to it. I share some of your other questions, but I think the farts are not in question.

Lyrata · 21/01/2021 11:50

Yes agree with that, @StuntNun. I think the whole Eat Lancet campaign around veganism is quite disturbing - I agree that veganism CAN be healthy (I was a vegetarian for 7 years) and is certainly healthier than the standard western diet - but only because the standard western diet is awful and people present veganism as a saintly parade of whole foods and pure water, which it often isn’t in practice.

More importantly even when it is done well, it’s not the only way to eat well I think the data suggests that it’s not the best way to eat well - meat is. I do worry about the amount of political pressure behind veganism, and I hope that in five years time meat eating isn’t something that people feel like they have to apologise for!

nowlook · 21/01/2021 11:50

@Bumbledee Would a moussaka or lasagna style layered thingy work with the sausage meat instead of lamb/beef and swede instead of potatoes/pasta? There's a moussaka recipe on here somewhere...

Lyrata · 21/01/2021 11:52

Sorry, just saw @Dailyhandtowelwash’s reply - don’t want to make this a political discussion. It’s a complex area indeed! But I think the thing everyone agrees on is that ultra processed foods are horrid and that we should reduce them as we are all doing :).

Bumbledee · 21/01/2021 11:56

@nowlook that’s a great idea! Yes there is a moussaka recipe I’ve seen before in the recipes thread that I can possibly adapt! I’ll have as look.