Super Strict Leaving Lockdown Low Carb Bootcamp Week 1

[BIWI]

Good evening!

Trying to get ahead of everything, as I know tomorrow will be a real rush with people signing up, etc.

Here's the spreadsheet with many thanks to the ever lovely @AthelstaneTheUnready for her sterling efforts

@colouringindoors

thanks BIWI much appreciated.

So post bootcamp do you guys eat carbs at all? What's the best way to maintain weight loss?

Firstly, you should be eating carbs! This is a low carb way of eating, not a no carb way of eating. If you read Bootcamp rules (posted earlier in the thread/linked to on the spreadsheet) you'll see that your carbs should be coming (mainly) from vegetables and salad.

Second, post Bootcamp, what people do depends entirely on how close they are to their target. Some continue with the low carbing, and we always have a chat thread going between Bootcamps, but some may relax things slightly. It's entirely up to individuals.

However, and finally, if - once you reach your target - you just go back to eating all the carbs, then the weight will go back on again. So although you may introduce/re-introduce some carbs, just going straight back to how you were eating before will entirely undo all the work you've done on Bootcamp.

@ShagMeRiggins Thanks :)

I think I'm done with the calorie counting. I hate feeling hungry, which I am today, and don't want to lose heart and fuck it all off. However I have lost 5lbs so a nice kick start!
I am definitely sticking with the 16:8 (I can deal with that hunger) and will be very mindful of the LCHF stuff that I do eat. As someone said up thread - no more packs of halloumi to myself this bootcamp!!

However, and finally, if - once you reach your target - you just go back to eating all the carbs, then the weight will go back on again. So although you may introduce/re-introduce some carbs, just going straight back to how you were eating before will entirely undo all the work you've done on Bootcamp.

Amen to that - from a casualty

A WORD ABOUT THE RATE OF LOSS YOU CAN EXPECT

It's inevitable that we will all see different losses. That's not surprising, given that we're all different - we're different heights, different weights and different builds (and at different times of our menstrual cycles - for those pre-menopause!).

Some people will lose a lot immediately, some will see a slower loss to start with. And, indeed, some people will find that they don't lose at all to start with.

This is not a competition!

So if somebody else has lost 6lbs in week 1, and you have 'only' lost 3lbs - don't panic. Focus on your own trajectory.

We'll all get there in the end!

It's a marathon not a sprint

We all want to see the weight disappear - and the faster the better! But remember, the weight didn't go on over a couple of weeks, so it's not going to come off quickly either.

Please be realistic in your expectations. A 2lb loss per week is a GOOD loss.

Attached - hopefully! - is a picture of a pound of fat. Now imagine you lose two of those. You'll be pleased, won't you?

YUCK BIWI! (I do still have quite a few of those tucked about my person - DOUBLE YUCK!)

@colouringindoors: Yes - losing weight is just the start.

Once it is lost - you need to think about how you gained it before and what you will do differently in order not to gain it all again. Your previous 'normal' eating cannot be normal for you anymore.

(No point doing the same thing if you want a different result.)

biwi yyy to low carbing.

pseudo any tips?

also which is worse out of the rice / potatoes / pasta / bread four?

Thanks all. Any tips for finding that new non bootcamp woe much appreciated!

@ThinkAboutTomorrow

I've not lost weight yet either. Also have my period. I'm super grumpy about it all today as absolutely none of my warm weather clothes fit. I'm lying on my bed in a huff.

Usual I'd be down around 5lb by this point, as I started a bit early.

I'm going to be ultra low with carbs today and see if that helps.

@colouringindoors -My plan for the happy time when maintaining the right weight is my task:

Start with bootcamp lite and see how that goes.

If all is well, add in things that I really miss (in small quantities).

See how that goes.

Don't add things(potatoes/rice/pasta etc.) just because they are usual.
Do think about portion size and alcohol and exercise and water.

One day - one day!

Colouringindoors : I don't think there is a definitive answer to that: you need to work out which one works for you and doesn't send you spiralling again into carby twatdom . For example, at Christmas I allow myself a single roast potato which I savour and that's ok.

I think it is Dr Briffa who suggests in one of his books (recommending high fat low carb) that you can allow yourself one meal a week (month?) as, say, a pizza night. But I think that very much depends on whether you are an "abstainer" or a "moderator". Moderators can cope with the occasional meal "off-piste" whereas for Abstainers it means a full scale face plant back into carby twatdom

....although even Moderators can't cope with a prolonged period of "off-pistedness", like at Christmas or Lockdown

It depends on how susceptible you are to the "Fuck-its"

Oh my god, that pound of fat! Terrifying and motivational!

biwi “we’ll all get there in the end”

Much as I’d like to believe this, and I see why you say it, but some of us will never reach our target weight, unless we set it high...
I have lipedema like, I suspect around 10% of the posters on here. That fat in my lower body and arms will not be shed by diet and exercise no matter how strict I am. The best I can do is reduce the rest of the normal fat.

I’ve had fat legs all my life, and only got a diagnosis in my 50s, I had to give my GP the details to look into it. It is becoming more well known but every day mature women find the Facebook pages and are so relieved to find that they’re not the only ones who diet and diet and don’t lose, and that they can discuss it freely with others in a similar situation.

I’m putting this here not to be negative, lchf is the best way of eating for us sufferers and I’m so grateful to you for getting me back on track. I won’t lose much (or any) weight in my arms and legs but I’m already feeling much better, I think my stomach is definitely benefiting and I’d like to shift the fat on my back that some bastard seems to have ladled onto me in the last few months

prettybird carby twatdom

Ah prettybird that post makes SO MUCH sense, thank you!

I am an Abstainer, clearly :(

Great post pretty. I feel I am and in no way will ever be a moderator

Why am I so fecking tired?!! Maybe I was this tired last week but the wine consumption masked it!!

Lots of great wisdom on the thread this afternoon and that pound of fat - yuck but what a great visual motivator.

Yes yes to the cheesies, they are lovely. Although I found they went rather too well with a gin and soda, prompting me to have another and another I do find them great for things like picnics / packed lunches where you know everyone else will be snacking on crisps. Crisps are one of my downfalls, so having these are a great alternative.

colouringwindow my maintenance approach between BCs is pretty much bc lite plus one day a week when I have more carbs, and on that day I do not have high fat.

The carbs: I never have pasta and I rarely have bread unless it is a much lower carb version - that is partly because they are both process and refined. I pretty much avoid potatoes, although like prettybird I will have roast potato at Christmas, or maybe steal 3 skinny fries from dh's plate if we're out. I may very, very occasionally have rice but only brown rice.

The carbs I do have on that one day a week might be puy lentils or beans to put in a chilli, or some chickpeas. I try to have only a small portion, but on maintenance it does help with eating meals cooked by other family. However as said above, if I had some beans in a chill, I would not also have sour cream, cheese and guacamole. In general I find I'd rather have the chilli with the glorious accompaniments and miss out the beans .

The big problem (and I fell into that trap on lockdown) was continuing to enjoy all the high fat things I love and have become accustomed to, and also adding in a liberal mount of carbs and replacing the litres of water with alcohol.

Don't worry about it too much now. Take your time, enjoy the new feeling of being able to eat buttered vegetables, experiment with different recipes, find out what suits you.

And here is the high fat, high carb, high alcohol effect in practice.

And no, unfortunately I can't put it all down to the lack of a haircut!

Congrats on those making losses :)

I'm happy to have only gained around half a pound since Monday. Before last week I was gaining around a pound a day! (I'm coming up to 15 weeks pregnant now).

I also have neither had nor craved a glass of the sugary badness that is fruit juice for days now, which is fab

ifeelfat I see your point about lipedema but wonder if you’re saying it’s impossible to get to a healthy weight range? I’m sorry, I really don’t know much about it.

Certainly for many there are various conditions that impede weight loss and overall health but it’s so positive of you to recognise the benefits you get from this WOE and to share them with us.

@venusandmars

And here is the high fat, high carb, high alcohol effect in practice.

And no, unfortunately I can't put it all down to the lack of a haircut!

This is brilliant. Says it all Re fat, carbs, and alcohol—it’s a lethal combination, and it’s how much of the population eats.

I also have neither had nor craved a glass of the sugary badness that is fruit juice for days now

That’s so good to hear Friggin. Breaking the grip sugar has on us is one the most liberating and empowering feelings.

It’s great to be out for a coffee or in the office and see the cakes/muffins/fudge on offer and genuinely think “meh.”

ShagMeRiggins exactly that for some people.

There are 4 stages, 1is mild, and 2 is generally just large. 3 and 4 are really quite disfiguring and unfortunately it’s very difficult to predict if or when it will progress. More research is needed but it’s pretty much agreed it’s tied to hormonal changes as it often appears at puberty, but sometimes not until the menopause.
Apart from disproportionately large limbs it comes with pain and bruising.

Having said that, it can be equally annoying when faced with the cakes/muffins/fudge etc to not have an decent form of LCHF alternative. Why oh why can’t cafes, especially, embrace the beauty that is Egg&Bacon muffins ffs?!