Week 5 - Low Carb Bootcamp - the end of the first half

[BIWI]

Morning all.

A very early start to this week's chat thread, as I'm 8 hours ahead of the UK right now.

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness one more time

Hopefully by now, low carbing is starting to become a habit rather than a hardship. We're out of the dreaded weeks 4 & 4, so for those who haven't seen much movement on the scales, things should start to get going again now (although don't expect to see huge losses from here on - around 1-2lbs a week is a normal and healthy rate of loss)

For those who aren't seeing any movement in the bathroom make sure you're eating plenty of fat - see how you can find ways to add more fat to your diet. Similarly water. And look at what you're eating, and be sure that you're getting your carbs in the main from veg and salad.

I have noticed that there's a fair bit of slippage cheating starting to creep in, and I'm calling you all on that! Remember that this isn't an especially forgiving way of eating, and if you cheat, you won't lose!

But good luck for the rest of the week

Hi BIWI.

im thinking the same RE peer pressure. if iv'e given him a good start and we eat well in the home i think its fine to be more relaxed at school although he wont be getting much processed, overly sweet stuff eg dairylee dunkers blarggg!!! more sugar from fruit/yoghurt

@Iamnotacerealkiller I did BLW with my LO. Was brilliant fun. I wouldn't worry too much about carbs and stuff at this age as it's all about getting them to explore different textures and tastes rather than nutrition which remains primarily milk until 12 months plus.

I used a great book by Gill Rapley which had loads of recipes which I still use (and adapt for me these days). My LO is a great eater and whilst is now at the age of being picky is much more open to different foods than others and I suspect it's the exposure BLW gave her. She's also got great fine motor skills which I attribute to all that handling of food from an early age.

JimmyGrimble I know it can be frustrating but I wanted to congratulate you for sticking to plan. Good for you not giving up.

@farine

I already have that exact book :)

Yes we plan to BLW for those reasons too.

Thank you 3stonedown 🙂
abbey you look really fantastic and cherries too.

There was another programme a couple of weeks ago probably still on bbc iPlayer looking at VLCD’s, putting a bunch of people through a 9 week (I think) programme and then following up a few weeks later to see what was happening. They all lost loads (just soups and shakes) and we’re still losing afterwards though carefully adding foods back in. A big thumbs up was given to the Diet.

I did one in 2012 as part of a group and lost 5 stone in 5 and a half months. We had a big celebration at Christmas 2012 and a professional photography session was organised as part of it. I still have two photos from that and I don’t recognise myself. I really looked good but they make me quite sad now because I am so far away from it. I know I could get back there but I need to believe it.

What is BLW?

cerealkiller and various, I'm current roughly LCHF weaning my 8 1/2 month old. Not BLW though I'm not a fan. Breakfast is the carbiest meal: weetabix, shredded wheat or most often porridge, though low carb porridge by using fewer oats, more ground almonds, oat bran, flax, chia etc. Omelette is a massive favourite, I make a one egg one in a little pan, with whatever veg and cheese in it; you can cut into strips for BLW. Hummus also great, I mix with purée for added veg (both home made) and avocado and mushrooms both get mixed with philly, blitzed and devoured. Cheese great in veg purée. He's starting to accept meat or fish blitzed up with veg and chunks of sliced chicken.

There's a kids version of the Real Meal Revolution called raising Superheroesbut I had to get my sister to buy it in SA for me

I've ticked the "no sweet things" or however it was worded on the nursery form but will accept out of the house it's not really in our control, it's not like we never indulge ourselves!

@BlackMozart it stands for baby led weaning. Basically you give the baby real not puréed food and don't put it on a spoon into their mouths but let them use their own hands. It can get very messy but it's great fun.

Ok thanks farine sounds great.

cerealkiller thanks, very interesting!

BIWI thanks, I normally don't eat breakfast I was trying to do 16/8 so added in the bpc for additional fat which did initially make the scales move.
I struggle with an almost non existent appetite - eating was something I did because a) people told me to eat & b) boredom, I can be a very compliant patient at times.
Since doing lchf it's given me permission to say no and just not eat much at all, but obviously that's not working well for me either is it.
In my defence it was a large stick of celery

I've steered clear of the threads and the scales for the last week or so. Last Thursday I was on a course, for which I'd carefully ordered a bread free lunch. Turned out it was the smallest side salad you've ever seen, with no protein. I was really upset as I'd said several times I'd take my own lunch but they assured me it wasn't necessary. I avoided all the biscuits, sweets etc all day, but by the time the course ended I felt really quite ill. I went to an amazing cafe with colleagues afterwards but because it was the end of the day they were only serving cakes. I chose a dark chocolate and raspberry gluten free brownie as the least bad option as I didn't feel safe to drive without eating something, but was really cross as I'd worked so hard all day at avoiding sugar. Unfortunately that then set me up for 3 days off-piste. Have been properly back on it since Monday, but I don't dare get on the scales as I'm fairly sure seeing a gain would tip me over the edge again. So I'm KOKOing, one day at a time, glugging through my water and might be brave enough to weigh over the weekend...

That's not good, @toomuchicecream (you need to change that username ). I'd complain to the course director if I were you.

But it's also a salutary lesson about the impact that carbs have on us.

I have the 'superfood for superheroes' book and it's great. It's not as strict low carb as the adult version. It has sections for pregnancy up to teenagers. Unfortunately DD is the pickiest eater alive but I have finally been able to replace some pasta meals with omelette which is progress. I was a big fan of blw but it certainly doesn't guarantee a non fussy eater. DD used to eat mild curries, salmon, broccoli, spaghetti Bolognese etc. Now if any sauce, green vegetable or fish goes near her plate she has a completed meltdown (age4).

Blimey abbey you look ten years younger and like a completely different person, the jeans look fabulous.

Gammeldragz I did have the hospital dietician calculate my BMR way back in spring 2016 in the run up to my last surgery - I'm not convinced that she did it correctly because she told me to eat no more than 600 - 700 calories a day, it did make me lose weight but I also had no energy, slept a lot and was depressed. It's hard to work out what is an accurate BMR because I basically have one fully functioning limb, don't do much moving other than on wheels and then my chairs are powered as propelling with one arm is impossible. I had been exercising in water and the gym until mid April when I damaged my good shoulder and have been resting it. Hopefully back to some gentle exercise next week.

ShagMeRiggins (love your name) thanks for the encouragement and an outfit has been purchased - I'm a bit meh about it but the bride is happy and it's her day not mine.

I got sweet little bento boxes from the Japanese shop online for my grandchildren for those looking for them

@abbey44 - you look fantastic

I'm having a challenge with ds (17 year old, very slim rugby player).

He desperately wants to put weight on - but not to get fat. He's a very good scrum half and his speed is one of his strengths, so he doesn't want to put weight on for the sake of it. He's been going to the gym and doing weights - but says if anything his weight is dropping

He's started cooking some meals from Jamie Oliver's "5 Ingredients" recipe book I preparation for going off to Uni, makes himself scrambled eggs in plenty of butter and finished off with cream before rugby games, and snacks on chicken pieces and Lidl full fat fruit corner yoghurts and Irn Bru .

I've told him he needs to eat more/have bigger portions of the granola I make him and less of the coco pops. The granola is not Boot Camp compatible as it has rolled oats and a small amount of maple syrup but in addition it is packed full of energy giving fats (olive oil and coconut oil) and nuts (chopped Brazil nuts, walnuts, pecans, almonds - flaked and ground as well - and flaxseed and/or the Q10 nut/flaxseed mix) plus 2 lightly beaten egg whites and some cinnamon and then roasted, before adding dried fruits and cranberries. It is very tasty (at some point I'll do myself a HFLC version without the oats, maple syrup and fruit)

Not sure what else I can suggest to him

Today was my DF's funeral & I fell off BC wagon for first time since 1 Jan. I had a lot of wine & a bowl of chips with an otherwise LC meal. I don't even care that much - such a hard day - but I do feel uncomfortably full. I will go straight back on BC tomorrow.
@abbey44 you look gorgeous - you absolutely deserve to feel giddy with delight.

So.... I AM having the complete opposite problem to many on here. I have completely lost my appetite and any interest in food. I AM making myself eat but am surviving quite happily on tiny amounts...

lizards it was never going to be easy, but it sounds like you've coped pretty well only falling as far as wine and chips.

Seafour wow, that is really low. But apparently our brains actually use more of our energy than anything else and you strike me as having a damn good one, so I reckon you need extra calories for that. Preferably fatty one
prettybird how about smoothies with loads of good fats? Your granola sounds amazing!

Smoothies are a good idea Gammeldragz He's not keen on bananas, but I could try one in a smoothie, maybe with an avocado (), lots of berries (which he loves ) and some full fat Greek yoghurt and/or cream. Just need to get him to taste it before I tell him the ingredients

@BIWI can I just check something with you? I love the diet and have lost weight so far and am really pleased.

However, as from the start of this week I have completely lost my appetite. As in, I can miss a meal and just not notice. Is this ok in Bootcamp Lite? Am I right in thinking that as long as everything that I do eat is high in fat, that I can eat as little as I like?

Waiting on an answer to this! I have stuck to the first two week regime almost completely. I can go 15 hours without eating and not feel hungry. I have had a particularly hectic couple of days and managed to do an hours body combat on grabbed fatty snacks and water...

Morning all,

For those of you able to go hours without feeling ravenous, surely that's a good thing? My favourite part of this woe is that I DO feel less hungry compared to a low cal, carb heavy diet.

I'm missing my kid's sports day for a conference today. I'm determined not to compound things by falling off the wagon !

@DelaneyHasAUseForMe and @Yarboosucks

Appetite suppression is one of the huge advantages of low carbing. It's a sign that you have got your blood sugars well balanced, and the key hormones (insulin, grehlin and leptin) are also 'well aligned'

If you're not hungry, then there's no need to force yourself to eat.

However be careful. If you're skipping a meal, that's fine - but please don't let yourself get so hungry that you then reach for a carby snack.