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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 6 - Low Carb Bootcamp - we start the second half

537 replies

BIWI · 13/11/2017 07:43

Morning all Flowers

Here's the spreadsheet of fabulousness for you all

Many thanks to wombattoo and SayrraT for keeping the threads going while I was away.

Lots of people talking about how to deal with future events, especially Christmas, and this is something that's really important to think about. This is a tough time of year for low carbing. But it's also a tough time of year if you can't squeeze into your partywear - so you need to decide which is more important. Those roast potatoes or looking good Wink

Good luck everyone

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Rshard · 16/11/2017 17:07

That’s an impressive amount of inches lost pretty.

Congratulations on the double whoosh mimosa

Oh no cherries, how can it be sorted?

ShastaBeast · 16/11/2017 18:02

I’ve gone awol due to work and study. It’s too much. However it means I’m not going out and screwing up the diet. Back on the berries though. Logged on today and lots of chat about 9 stone 7. Weighed in this morning and hit that weight, well point 9st7.2. I’m not sure it will stick and my weight has fluctuated wildly in recent weeks. Sadly I’m only 5ft4 and a half with a small frame so I’m carrying on. After babies I carry more round the middle so still quite wobbly. I’ve been gyming for over a year now and see a big improvement, although the gym never got easier as I assumed. I’m hoping to continue losing so I can inspire my mum and Dad to join in. Both are diabetic/pre diabetic so would benefit so much. I haven’t seen them in months so it will be noticeable. In fact I started low carbing after Easter when I last saw my Mum. 17lb loss since then.

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 16/11/2017 18:11

[http://www.easy-immune-health.com/low-blood-calcium.html low calcium]
@Kleptronic
This is an interesting and serious read.
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Your body will do almostANYTHINGto maintain normal blood levels- including taking calcium right out of your bones*

So probably not the WOE but more likely another indicator. NOT A DOCTOR so read and talk to your Doctor about Your body.

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 16/11/2017 18:21

low calcium

Link corrected

Grah0SoontobeaFitty · 16/11/2017 18:26

@Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es

So have you reviewed the diet doctor site lots of interesting recipes and methods for helping a lot of free information to help. Way to not change the kids is make for exclusive for you, no they can't have, no they can't try no you wont like,

And in terms of your dreams this seems like a timely picture from a previous BC that I have on my cupboards.

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TempusEejit · 16/11/2017 18:29

Wh0knows sounds like you need to look after yourself and spend some of your efforts on you by making some keto recipes on a weekend, or could you spend that evening half hour on yourself once or twice a week and give the DC something ready prepped? 90 second microwave bread is a good quick fix (comes out like an English muffin once toasted). Batch cook some celeriac or swede rostis and freeze them ready to reheat whenever you want them. Keto crackers are great with cheese and they keep for a week in an airtight tin. You can buy bags of frozen cauli rice from Iceland or Tesco which come in individual portions and microwave in 3 mins. Don't give up - your own needs are as important as anyone else in your family when it comes to your good health.

Kleptronic · 16/11/2017 18:41

Thanks prettybird and Grah.

Naturally, being 21 45 the low calcium can't possibly be age related...

Not freaking out, not freaking out! Nooo not me.

Kleptronic · 16/11/2017 18:42

Hope you jaw stops hurting cherries that sounds horrible!

ClearEyesFullHearts · 16/11/2017 18:57

grah I'm on my phone so couldn't see properly, was hoping your photo was a bunch of fantastic low carb foods and that the text said "Weapons of ASS Destruction".

#disappointed #makeyourownmeme

ClearEyesFullHearts · 16/11/2017 19:04

I'll just second the cauliflower for texture/crunch instead of high carb foods.

Last night I made beef stroganoff and served it on potatoes for the children (weirdly I didn't even think about doing it over pasta), and then over cauliflower for myself.

Actually, it was the first time I'd cooked potatoes for them in a week or so.

Granted, my kids mostly eat most things I cook. They've gotten better as they mature, and I've unthinkingly given them most of what I'm cooking for myself, with very few differences. Or I give them pasta and wait until later to have my steak. Grin

They don't miss high carb foods at dinner really. They get plenty at school or at breakfast

It's always difficult to cook for families, especially if there are dietary needs, issues, or preferences. But there's nothing wrong with experimenting, I've been very surprised by the responses.

Good luck, whoknows and glad you're sticking with it.

Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es · 16/11/2017 19:19

I'm sometimes surprised by the DCs responses too but cauliflower rice and courgette spaghetti have been firm thumbs down, as has celeriac rosti, which we've had tonight. I'm getting tired of cauliflower myself now. I think I will shred the other half of the celeriac, cook and freeze some more while I've got the food processor out.

Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es · 16/11/2017 19:24

Kleptronic - not much to add but hope the other tests give you some answers. VitD is closely linked and deficient in many people.

Cherries - sorry this has happened to you, again nothing to suggest but hope it improves soon.

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 19:42

That sounds horrible cherries I hope you feel better soon.

I am in a Bad Mood.

I need to have something for dinner and really just want toast!

Cant face cauliflower, salad, tuna.

The hardest thing is having to make lovely food for my family and not eating any of it [cry] they'bve just all had lvoely lovely fishcakes and stir fried veg and annoyingly I didn't make enough veg for me tiny violin so now I'm stalking the kitchen and trying to find something appetising!

SoMuchToBits · 16/11/2017 19:50

I pretty much never cook stuff for ds that I can't eat myself, except for the added carb bit. So tonight we had Bolognese with sautéed leeks and courgettes, but I did spaghetti as well for ds.

Or I might make a curry, and give him some rice with it. Or baked chicken thighs with Greek veg, and he will have a toasted pitta with it. Or a salad for lunch at the weekend, and he might have a bread roll too.

That way I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything other than the "added carb".

BIWI · 16/11/2017 20:00

@Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es

Apologies for being a whinge-bag, I haven't really got anyone to talk to who understands this IRL

That's exactly what these threads are for! Please don't worry about it - and it's not whingeing, it's expressing your experiences, feelings and frustrations. If we can help here, we will. Flowers

I think I am guilty of massively underestimating how hard this WOE would be, I assumed it would be simple, no weighing. no counting, but of course that's unrealistic

Why is it unrealistic?! The whole point of Bootcamp is that it is easy - no weighing or counting. There's a list on the spreadsheet of what veg is low carb - so you can just go by that rather than having to worry about counting/weighing. I designed it with my own self in mind - i.e. because I'm a lazy cow and I simply can't be arsed with all the palaver of weighing or counting. Would you rather that you had to do that?!

it's a massive change and trying to fit it round the rest of the family is bound to be a challenge. I have lost 4lb in 5 weeks which I'm really pleased about (I'm very much of the 1lb a week loss is fast enough POV).

It is a massive change, and it's true that the world isn't designed for low carbers, which doesn't help. But there's no reason why your family should eat differently from you. In fact I'd say that you should be cooking/eating the same things, so that a) it normalises what you're eating and b) it makes life easier for you!

Brilliant news on the weight loss, and also really positive attitude to the rate of loss.

I would like to try cooking more new HFLC meals but most evening I only have about half an hour for cooking and the DCs are pretty resistant to new foods (one is extremely resistant to veg, the other to spicy foods). I am also finding a lot of meals just too rich without the bland carb part, and am really missing the contrasting textures of carbs too, a piece of cheese on it's own is nothing compared to the deliciousness of having it on a crunchy cracker. Same with the meal Very described, I could eat salmon and veg in tomato sauce but would find a whole plate of it way too rich, I would usually have rice with it to offset the intensity.

This is about experimentation, and finding meals that work for you. You don't have to eat stuff that you find too rich. Having said that, there is also a habit that you need to break. Is, for example, a cracker really delicious? Or is it just a textural thing that you're missing?

As it happens, I love cheese on its own. But if I need the 'crunch', then celery does the trick. Or, you could experiment with low carb crackers - I think there's a recipe on the Bootcamp recipe thread. If not, there are certainly lots online.

There definitely is also that thing of, as you say BlackMozart, you just want something quick, hot and tasty, so a jacket potato, or something on toast would have been the first port of call every time, now that's gone and anything else seems a lot more effort. I'm not keeping a record of what I eat (I found out doing MFP that it just makes me obsess about food even more) but I have started logging water now and have realised that my estimates of what I was drinking were probably quite a long way out, so have started on the full 3L this week.

Yes, it's true - chucking pasta in a pan or bread in the toaster is much easier. But it's also lazy. It does take more effort to do low carbing, but if you're aware of the longer term benefits - beyond just weight loss - it's an important context that can keep you motivated. Have you done any reading about low carbing, and its longer term health benefits? If you haven't, I seriously recommend that you do. Start with the spreadsheet - there are loads of links on there to blogs and websites, as well as books, that will help to inspire you.

Anyway, I'd like to keep with it, it is uplifting reading all your positive stories even when I am feeling thoroughly out of sorts about it all, I still think it's better for me personally than SW or calorie counting etc.

Oh goodness, yes! If you think low carbing is restrictive, just think back to what it was like when you were trying to be low fat or low calorie. A nightmare, plus being hungry all the time!

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TempusEejit · 16/11/2017 20:03

Scabbers I made smoked haddock fishcakes tonight - equal quantities of cauliflower mash and flaked fish mixed together with parsley and chopped spring onion. Shape into fishcakes (I also pressed a chunk of cheese into the middle), put in freezer for 30 mins to firm up. Coat in beaten egg then ground almonds, spray generously with oil then bake at 200degC for 20-25 mins. They were delicious. I served with poached eggs and celeriac remoulade.

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toomuchicecream · 16/11/2017 20:04

Finally, after much dithering around, the scales decided to drop. 1lb off on Monday which took me to 1 stone down this bootcamp and 2 more since. Hurrah! Have been through the trousers in the too small pile and have found 2 pairs (rather nice ones) that I now fit into, which is very exciting as my fat clothes are all so worn out. I've got a couple more pairs which will fit when I've lost the next half stone, so that's a good target to aim for. Shall keep on glugging the water...

Wh0KnowsWhereTheTimeG0es · 16/11/2017 20:20

I should add that I tried so, so hard to have us all eating one meal together over the years. DS was weaned onto a very wide range of normal foods, but shut down almost completely at 18 months (he has ASD) and it became impossible. For a long time the only cooked meals he would eat were curry (no veg) and pasta with tomato sauce. He has expanded his palate significantly now (in his teens) but there are still lots of everyday foods he cannot bear and he can't even be in a room with some food smells (baked beans for example).

ilovecherries · 16/11/2017 20:37

My go-to super fast meal which we have on the nights I may in the past have had pasta and jar sauce Blush is Sliced sweetheart cabbage sautéed in butter with chilli, shallot, bacon lardons or chorizo, and sprinkled with grated cheese. Ok, the chorizo/lardons are a bit processed but they are there more as a seasoning. And it's delicious and fast and I always have the things in the fridge.

I am currently sliding slivers of cheese into my mouth and letting it melt with the heat from bullion sucked through a straw. Doctor gave me liquid nurofen but it's full of sugar :(. Or maybe sweetener, but either way, would rather not have it. So holding a hot water bottle to my jaw and contemplating how to get nurofen caplets down. I don't get this often - last time was about 5 years, but it's bloody miserable. DH mentioned the other day that I'd been tooth grinding a lot, which has probably triggered it.

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 20:43

Oh it's usually fine, I know how to cook low carb with the family but just didn't tonight. I ate some salami with cream cheese and an avacado and feel OK.

Scabbersley · 16/11/2017 20:43

cherries please take the liquid nurofen!!

Mimosa1 · 16/11/2017 20:56

Oh ilove poor you! I admire your determination to stick to LCHF despite your jaw hurting. It sounds like homemade soup might be just the thing. If it does get too much for you, I think you know that you'd lose any weight you put on over the few days you needed to get alternative nourishment / carbs and painkillers by whichever way needed.

SoMuchToBits · 16/11/2017 21:04

I love how some combinations of food now sound totally normal, which would have seemed a bit weird before BC! For example, Scabbersley, your salami, cream cheese and avocado sounds like an ideal combination, but I bet a lot of people (not Bootcampers) would think it slightly odd.

Similarly, on the rare occasions I need a snack, I might just have a couple of spoonfuls of cream. I can just imagine most of my friends thinking that's the most unhealthy thing ever, but they wouldn't bat an eyelid if I ate a biscuit!

starsky22 · 16/11/2017 21:05

Klep are you eating too much calcium?! Have a read of this and see if any might apply:
www.livestrong.com/article/267212-what-blocks-calcium-absorption/

Wh0 I know you said before that you were struggling with the fat side of things, I think after you've been doing this woe can you reduce the amount of fat you eat, as you then want to use the fat in your body for energy rather than the fat you eat. When I started I was slathering butter on everything (because i love it! Grin) but as time has passed, i have notice that unconsciously I am not using as much butter/oil/cream and am still feeling full. Obviously you don't want to go low fat and you need to make sure you are eating enough to stay full, but don't force yourself to eat lots of fat if you don't like it. I would suggest you think about the low carb foods you really like and base meals around that, or look at low carb alternatives of the carby foods you are missing.

dameglittersparkles · 16/11/2017 21:09

May I join you ladies? I've been cutting out carbs for a few days and already am 3lb lighter!
I'm half a pound over 13st though definitely got a way to go yet. Such a fussy eater though I would LOVE to be able to eat salad!!