Week 4 - just got to KOKO

[SayrraT]

Morning everyone as BIWI is away I have the honour of starting the week 4 thread.

I going to give you all the usual reminder that in week 4 it is PERFECTLY NORMAL for weight loss to stall. So you may sts or even see a gain.

Do not panic! Just KOKO

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I have eaten terribly again today. No proper meals just picked at stuff...
Thick cream. Peanut butter. Peanuts. Protein roll with peanut butter.
Feel stuffed and sick. Not likely to eat anything else today. Haven't drunk any water yet, just 6 mugs of black coffee.
Someone slap me...

I have some georg Jensen jewellery, the packaging isn’t as iconic as Tiffany but classy and understated

@scabbersley re: Georg Jensen, I just noticed there is £50 off a £250 spend on the UK site until 23/11.

Well bug appears to be generating heat and sleep. Which is fab no eating lots of drinking water. great and new 191.6 sv but had to settle for 192.1 as it was the first number to stick for 3 weigh attempts.

Bike rides will be short as it appears winter is here -2c 10cm of snow which normally is the base layer till spring. So with luck no more wet rain for 6 months.

Out front.

Ok, this is a bit of serious post, so if it’s to weird or deep or self-indulgent or whatever, please do ignore!

Have we talked about deliberate self sabotage? I’ve just had a couple of days in which I have eaten utter crap because I don’t think I am worth weighing less, of looking better, and certainly am not worth cooking separately for or putting my needs anywhere on the map let alone first. So in the spirit of self-loathing I ate crap. it doesn’t help that my DH thinks I am doing itself damage and tries to “help” me by feeding me carbs. He is lovely not controlling which makes it really difficult. But also the last few years have been awful and I have got so used to putting myself somewhere down in the bottom of the heap.

Does anyone else have this? Or Am I just weird?...

Looks cold, Grah!

DrDiva, I don't think that's weird. But I do wonder if your dh realises how much he is scuppering your efforts, as that can't be helping, and I'm sure will be contributing towards your feelings of self-loathing. As if you're thinking "He's supposed to love me more than anyone and if he's sabotaging my WOE then I can't be worth much", if that makes sense. Have you been able to talk to him about how important this WOE is for you, and about the science behind it, so he doesn't think it's "bad for you"?

Not weird. I caved to the alcohol last night and again tonight, despite seeing the lowest weight I've seen since my early 20s (I'm mid 30s) over the past few days. It's like I don't deserve it or something. I was +2 this morning and I know it's going to be more tomorrow morning, but it's like I can't stop myself! And my bloody low-vember goal was no drinking, except for our weekend away! Goodbye mini goal!

And btw, of course you're worth it! It's not just about looks, it's about health too. If you lose weight and become healthier, it won't just be better for you, it will be better for your family too. That's one thing I'm learning - the healthier I am, the more able I am to help my ds (both by being fitter and by being a better role model for him).

Definitely not weird DrDiva. I guess your DH just really cares about you and wants you to be happy.

If you like reading then Brene Brown’s book, ‘The Gifts of Imperfection’ is a straightforward and quick read that might help perhaps? She can be a bit marmite but IMHO I think she has some useful things to say.

In other news our lovely I’d dog was put to sleep this afternoon. Many tears have been shed but I am NOT drinking to drown my sorrows.

That was old dog

wombatoo sorry I meant to thank you for looking at what I was eating and giving some advice. I think I do fall back on bacon and Parma ham particularly so will look at what to change that to. More chicken perhaps ? I haven’t lost any weight for 3 weeks despite sticking to Bootcamp so do need to change something.

@BlackMozart that is so, so difficult. I'm sorry for your loss of a loved member of the family.

I'm sorry, I've not actually read the last day or two of the thread, so apologies if you have already talked about it, butwhat was his or her name and would you like to tell us a little bit about him/her?

@DrDiva well done for writing it down.
Now have you shown DH? Or spoke to DH about your goals?

Being a guy with a DW who over the years has expressed that I should know..... With out being told. Unfortunately we men don't know. So tell him what your goals are and how you want to achieve them. THEN EXPLAIN HOW HE CAN HELP. Biggest issue is guys like to help but it can be seen as controlling, bossing or dictating.
So hug DH and explain feelings WOE and what you would like from him.
Please remember there is a reason you're together and I doubt it's just sex/money/rock and roll.

For mozart

Sorry to hear about your dog, Black. x

@Hippadippadation
So a long time diet going off the rails. I can understand. Did it myself the week before this BC started. Settle the panic finish off and enjoy the weekend.
See the scale effect and the non-scale feelings and restart on Day 1 of a 42 BC Monday.
If a little bit like me the restart has been a 13lb loss in 25 days.

Take it as when goal achieved what we need to watch for and how to deal with.

BlackMozart absolutely sorry for you loss.

Diva of course you are worth it! Maybe you could practise saying it to yourself quietly in the mirror sometimes (sorry if that sounds crazy!). Your DH, if he is lovely as you say, will probably be upset that he is sabotaging your woe, even accidentally. Talk to him. My DH thinks I'm crackers but he can see I'm happier and it's working so he supports me. He still eats all the carbs but doesn't try to get me on them. WE ARE ALL WORTH IT

Sayrra it was me that recommended the keto waffles. Glad you liked them. I have started making a huge batch and then freezing them in twos for quick and easy breakfasts.

Scabbers sorry your anxiety is high. Have you tried medication for it? I have taken amitriptyline in very low doses before for anxiety (and insomnia). Thought it might be worth suggesting. Other things I do are have a long hot bath and keep a notebook and pen next to the bed for late night worrying thoughts or things I suddenly need to remember.

Day out in York was fab .... and spooky! Did loads of walking and got the bunless burger, bacon & cheese with salad. I made a conscious decision to have a large glass of Pepsi Max and I really really enjoyed it. First one for ages. I'm not classing it as cheating as it was a positive, conscious decision (and Dh had a pint of lager so it could have been worse!).

Thank you HolgerDanske, Rshard and SoMuchtoBits
It has been a very difficult day.

She was a 14 year old Bedlington Terrier rescued 8 years ago. She was so sweet and gentle. An absolute darling. She went downhill very rapidly and would have needed major surgery which we didn’t want her to go through. Such a horrible decision but we owe it to them don’t we?She will be buried next to her beloved old Labrador friend.

Thank you Grah

So sorry about your dog Mozart it's hard to say goodbye but it sounds like you made the right decision.

The Lebanese food was easy peasy as it's like tapas where you order lots of little dishes and everyone helps yourself. We had green beans cooked with onions and tomato, spicy cured beef, meatballs that were regrettably in some kind of batter but very yummy, falafel which I didn't eat, chicken wings, and a couple of other things that I can't remember. The menu was admirably labelled with all allergens which is brilliant as DS3 and DS4 are allergic to eggs and dairy so I can recommend Maroush for low carb and allergy catering!

Hello Jiminy fabulous photos, thank you very much for posting the update. You look stunning, al glowey and beautiful. Have a lovely minimoon, hope you come and join us again.

Mmmm, furry i am liking the sound of that mascarpone , almond butter and dark chocolate. I been looking out for something a bit special to make and that sounds like a winner.

Not weird at all, DrDiva and well done for noticing your own behaviours. Its so much easier to notice in others, than in yourself. Self esteem is something that I have struggled with for some time, and found some of the most helpful work from Gillian Riley. I really like her idea that taking the trouble to look after yourself and eat well, is what boosts your self esteem. So often, we think it's the other way round, that feeling good about ourselves is what will help us to eat well. Eating well, in order to feel better about ourselves takes a bit of getting used to, but it really helps me to think of it that way round.

So sorry to read your sad news about DDog, BlackMozart

Glad the Lebanese went well, Stuntnun, I am another big fan of that kind of Mediterranean style food, delicious small places all very sociable.

BlackMozart that’s sad news.

Sorry to hear about your dog black, so sad.

Scabbers I hope you find some ways to cope with anxiety. I find exercise helps, even if it’s just a walk in the fresh air. Sorry if you’ve tried that/it’s already been suggested.

Just dropping in to say I am a massive celeriac concert! Boiled some up to make mash, hated the smell while it was cooking but it tasted amazing mashed with butter and salt and pepper. Had it with sausages, and cougettes fried in olive oil and chilli flakes. Lovely bonfire night dinner. Topped off by my one year one DS getting really excited by the fireworks!

Unmumsnetty hugs BlackMozart

Thanks Grah have stopped now and drinking a shedload of water. I really want to run tomorrow so don't want to be fuzzy headed.

Meal out tomorrow for SIL's birthday. I'm having the half chicken & swapping the chips for salad as usual. And no alcohol as I'm working in the afternoon. Day 1 for me...