Week 3 - the parting of the way! - Low Carb Bootcamp

[BIWI]

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet

Hope you've seen a good result, making for a very satisfying first two weeks.

Now. Those two weeks were probably quite tough, so if you want to, you can now move on to Bootcamp Light - the rules are on the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet.

Essentially this means you can start to skip breakfast (or another meal) if you want to - if you're finding that you're not hungry. (Please don't skip meals for any other reason)

You can also introduce some fruit - mainly berries - in moderation, and also nuts and seeks - again, in moderation - and alcohol - IN MODERATION!

But. It's very often the case that in weeks 3 and 4 your weight loss will slow right down. Sometimes you may see a slight gain, even though you know you've been following Bootcamp to the letter. So you may not want to relax things quite yet.

Entirely up to you.

Remember, though, if you choose to stay on Bootcamp, please remember to make sure you're getting your carbs in the most part from vegetables and fruit - you need that for proper nutrition.

If you like you can do a hybrid - Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

But whatever you choose - good luck and I hope you have a good week.

I don’t know what to do about Christmas. I think I’d rather have a planned break than try to stay lchf and fail. I’m staying at my sisters so there will be limits to what I can arrange to cook for myself.

Will there be a bootcamp in January? I might allow myself two relaxedish weeks and then start again hardcore.

HarlotsWeb re the spotting. I did lowcarbing on/off before and never had any spotting. Until last bootcamp ( May-July one). Freaked me out as my periods changed to brown instead of red etc. Went to see my GP after 3 cycles of that. He did some bloods/ scan and had appointment with gynecologist as well. They found little bit of adenomyosis which can cause spotting etc. And no treatment (other than pill which doesn't help as we are TTC...) was getting really fed up with it, and stressed out as well and not feeling great (think triggered by actually loosing about 2st in 10 weeks) so went back to acupuncture and after a couple off months I feel back to normal. And the spotting/brown periods etc stopped as well.

Re: people putting that they they didn't regret eating carbs: I think we should give people the benefit of the doubt more to make their own choices (somebody might have said this if so just ignore). I have not been tempted by carbs after reading that someone enjoyed theirs. I have decided though that I'll have a day off on christmas, like others have suggested. That would be in place for the main dinner only, no pigging out on chocolates (mainly because I wouldn't be able to stop!). I have no idea how I ate so much before

Timbuktu - yes, there is usually a Boot Camp in January, usually a couple of weeks in, just depends on BIWI's commitments.

I do agree that the lapses need to be considered but more importantly rare, otherwise you could lapse every day. I'm hoping that getting back to normal school and work routines after half term tomorrow is going to help me out, I have no meals out or staying with others planned till towards the end of November.

Very - I might try the chai latte then, I hadn't actually realised they were tea not coffee . If I don't like them I have a very obliging colleague who works his way through any teabags people have tried and not liked so they would get used eventually.

I've had really painful indigestion/heartburn for the last 4 hours. I've taken 3 different medications, had peppermint tea and an extra strong mint (all at MIL's - she has remedies for everything!) And I feel no better. Had halloumi and black coffee for breakfast, same as yesterday, so no idea why it is happening. Just had some yogurt to see if that settles it but no luck so far..

I don't think I've ever eaten something just to be polite, no one has ever seemed offended but perhaps I just haven't noticed? "No thanks, I don't eat sugar/bread/wheat" seems to work fine for me.

Eating a late lunch/early supper (the clock change has clearly thrown me ) and trying courgette spaghetti for the first time. I was about to post to say how disgusting it was, but then five minutes later found I was enthusiastically forking in my last mouthful and was utterly converted!

I'm not really worrying about Christmas food. Will have the usual dinner without the spuds and parsnips and dessert I will skip and have some cheese to finish my glass of red wine with. I will be driving so no more drink will be had. Will have nuts as nibbles and probably more cheese for evening buffet. Could have a day off but actually don't care about mince pies and Xmas pud anyway. My danger zone will be if anyone buys me sweets like chocolate ginger as I am bad around them.

Hmmm Christmas... I'll be eating the parsnips, but not the potatoes. I will be eating nuts. I'm going to try & avoid the chocolates, but we'll see. I'll have to work on Christmas Day and Boxing Day evenings, so I won't be able to drink on either of those days, but I'll have a drink on Christmas Eve.

I have an SV - my weight now starts with an 8! I hope it sticks for tomorrow. After putting on 3lbs in one week, it all seems to have gone, plus more. Must have been water. Excited and scared for tomorrow!

Menu for today:

L - we were child free, so DH took me out for Sunday dinner. I had lamb shank, which was cooked absolutely perfectly. It came with cauliflower cheese (which I ate, despite the potential for flour, as there were only 2 tiny florets), a pig in blanket, broccoli, cabbage and carrots (didn't eat the carrots.) Left the roasties, mash and yorkie.

D - something from the co op, can't see myself being hungry for a while! Probably salad I would imagine.

Gammeldragz I was also 1lb up this morning after eating most of a fathead pizza last night. I read everyone's previous comments on it where they said it's so filling you can't possibly eat more than 2 slices. Well....they clearly hadn't met me. Trying for a lighter day today before weigh in.

As for the Christmas problem, feel very lucky this year as both parents and in laws are going away, so it's just us at home. None of us like Christmas dinner, so the request has been for a posh cheese board and nibbles. I am more than happy with that! Saves me hours in the kitchen too which is a bonus.

I can avoid mince pies and Christmas pudding as I really dislike them both, but I nearly keeled over with some form of knee buckling lust when I walked past the chocolate covered Lebkuchen in Aldi this morning.

Oh and today's food:

B: leftover fathead pizza
L: Greek salad with a boiled egg
D: tandoori tofu with broccoli and mayo

Good luck for the morning everyone!

Rshard - I love the idea of meeting on a between bootcamp thread to help over the indulgent holiday season. Thanks for suggesting it.

Pretty bird - 200 mincepies?! Sounds amazing sigh

WhoKn0ws I don't think your posts led anyone astray. We should all keep posting the truth!

Suddenly having a really low moment- feeling really fat and disgusting. Like I’m eating massive portions and can’t possibly be losing anything.

I suspect it’s linked to not having scales. I need the obsessive daily weighing to keep me on track.

I still think I have a bit of a mindset where I believe that the ideal is to not eat any calories at all and everything that I eat is a failure of control.

Not really sure what to do with that.

You've all been busy today! Had a nice day in the city. Proper cooked breakfast before we went, and I had a black coffee and a square of 90% hotel chocolat when we stopped for a rest. Didn't get my running shoes but did get a new swimming costume. My current one was so loose on the bum it was indecent when wet. My gait though is apparently rubbish. My damaged leg is shorter and the foot is doing weird things so the guy in the shop felt I should ask to be assessed for custom orthotics before I buy more shoes.

Christmas - hmm. I think my position is that I'm trying to challenge the idea that going off piste is a treat. I don't want a gateway drug back to how I was before, and I feel I'd be crazy to eat something that will make me sick and fat again. I know already that eating slightly higher carb veg now and then doesn't affect me emotionally or physically, so I won't get hysterical about a parsnip. But otherwise my intention is to KOKO. I've learned so much this year about having a good time without wine, I'm going to attempt to transfer that learning to food.

timbuktu, I didn't want to read and run. Have you looked at the emotional eating thread? It's quite wide ranging, not just about comfort eating, and you might get some good support there. Whatever though, fat does not equal disgusting. It's adipose tissue. It has no value judgement. It just is.

Timbuktu I get you. I'm a (long) recovered anorexic myself. Every time I tried to "diet" I'd feel deprived and the thoughts would come rushing back. This WOE is the only one where I've not felt "guilty" about eating though, maybe it's something to do with balancing blood sugars and hormones, as I certainly feel more "zen" except in the rushed school run mornings eating this way. The brain is a weird organ - I definitely was expecting a gain this morning and convinced myself I could see I was bigger then yesterday, then boom, 2lbs down from yesterday.

Re parsnips & higher carb veg, I think if it's natural and comes from nature, then it has nutritional value, so I'd rather eat a parsnip than a jammie dodger.

FurryTurnip that christmas sounds heavenly. I'd love that. Room for one more?

I got totally derailed one Christmas when everyone on the pre-Bootcamp thread was "finishing" up all the Christmassy-carbs and I ended up following suit. I won't let that happen again. My Christmas will involve more (low carb) booze than usual, one roast potato, some stuffing, and a small piece of my mum's secret recipe Christmas pudding. Apart from that I will be on low carb 100%

totty congratulations! I think the moment I dropped from 15 stone into 14 was the moment I realised this might actually work. It represented a 7lb loss in three weeks, whereas the previous half stone had taken me 5 month of low fat, calorie counted misery.

Thanks Hippa and Cherries. I don’t really know what is going on with me today. I suspect being really tired doesn’t help. I feel like I ate loads yesterday, and definitely loads more than I needed and was eating when I wasn’t hungry to fit in with work stuff.

It’s basically about lack of control I suppose. If I post what I had can someone tell me that it’s a normal human amount and not a stupid binge (I do know this, I just don’t believe it at the moment)

B- 2 scrambled eggs with grated cheese and seeds sprinkled, two small sausages, 1 small-med avocado.
S- (unnecessary, boredom eating on train) 40g almonds
L- chicken, tuna and feta salad. Weighed 200g. With olive oil
D- chicken fajitas- 1 chicken breast, peppers and onions, tbs guac, salsa, sour cream, salad, grated cheese. About 15 homemade tortilla chips.

It’s weird, normally when I get like this I have done something more to trigger it like eat a whole tub of Ben and Jerry’s.

Whatever though, fat does not equal disgusting. It's adipose tissue. It has no value judgement. It just is.

I love this. I love that it's detached and dispassionate and takes the emotional significance out of the equation.

timbuktu your food looks lovely to me, wondering about the tortilla crisps?!

Evening all my food for today:

B. Fast
L. Protein roll with bacon, sausage and mushroom
S. Pork Scratchings
D. Roast lamb, celeriac roasted in butter, cabbage and leek wilted in butter

B - scrambled eggs, bacon mushrooms
L - crustless quiche (chorizo rocket and shallot)
D - mince beef with lettuce tacos. With tomato cheese and sour cream

So impressed with my lchf taco hack!

Timbuktu, I think your food looks fine. If it were me, I'd drop the crisps completely though, and add it some more green leafy veg. And how much water are you drinking?