Week 3 - the parting of the way! - Low Carb Bootcamp

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Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet

Hope you've seen a good result, making for a very satisfying first two weeks.

Now. Those two weeks were probably quite tough, so if you want to, you can now move on to Bootcamp Light - the rules are on the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet.

Essentially this means you can start to skip breakfast (or another meal) if you want to - if you're finding that you're not hungry. (Please don't skip meals for any other reason)

You can also introduce some fruit - mainly berries - in moderation, and also nuts and seeks - again, in moderation - and alcohol - IN MODERATION!

But. It's very often the case that in weeks 3 and 4 your weight loss will slow right down. Sometimes you may see a slight gain, even though you know you've been following Bootcamp to the letter. So you may not want to relax things quite yet.

Entirely up to you.

Remember, though, if you choose to stay on Bootcamp, please remember to make sure you're getting your carbs in the most part from vegetables and fruit - you need that for proper nutrition.

If you like you can do a hybrid - Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

But whatever you choose - good luck and I hope you have a good week.

I guess we all have our weak spots, cleareyes. A good thing about this thread is helping each other with working out strategies to deal with those weak spots. (Whether it's finding a form of words that you can use, or accepting that, for you, you just have to avoid them, or whatever.)

I agree with you though about people who treat such things as some sort of excuse, and not their fault, rather than taking responsibility for it.

(whoknows, I don't mean that you aren't taking responsibility either, by the way - oh God, a whole pit of bad phrasing is opening at my feet! - I am more thinking of people who struggle with making a mature clear sighted decision about short and long term needs and trade offs etc)

WhoKnOws I do remember you had no regrets. I respect that. You owned it. I get it.

Harlots weak spots are one of the many things I'm exploring and possibly why I flagged up the 'polite' thing.

I'm very big on working through the reasons I got so fat because I not only don't want to repeat my mistakes, I don't even want to be tempted to.

Also I'm a big advocate for everyone who has struggled with weight gain and weight loss to fully appreciate and care for themselves. Many of us don't, and it breaks my heart.

By the way - people who had spotting when they started this WOE - are you still spotting? How long should this carry on?

I do see what you both mean, but I do think there are times when a bit of compromise is needed, I have described a couple of other times that I've caved in to social norms (toast at the in-laws and not wanting to inflict full-fat tea milk on my friends). I'm still struggling with thinking of this WOE as permanent too, because to be honest, I'm not enjoying it much and apart from being a bit thinner don't feel any healthier on it. But I am trying very hard to make sure those odd lapses don't become a gateway back to a high carb eating habit, I do want to lose the weight, it's just not easy going it (seemingly in real life) alone in a high carb world. I'm learning a lot from these threads, both about food and nutrition and also the psychology of eating.

WhoKnows - I can appreciate that I have a friend who comes from a farming family and effectively had to drink gold top every day (they had Jersey cows) and has gone off it forever!

Also, if posting that I have no regrets over a lapse might facilitate others to start doing the same thing then I apologise and will think more carefully about how I post. I really don't want to lead anyone astray.

prettybird thanks for that. I do have long term goals for next summer so I will keep that in mind. One big motivator is how physically ill I will feel in the week after Christmas if I sugar binge. I want to enjoy my week off work not spend it in bed feeling shit.

On the politeness issue, I hate to put people out or cause a fuss or upset anyone. I manage this and stay on this woe by telling people in advance that I don't eat carbs including sugar, and that I am more than happy to bring my own food if it is a pain to cater for me. It depends if It is dinner or lunch really. Dinner is easier to say please just cook me some extra green veg instead of the potatoes/rice/pasta. If it is lunch then I always assume sandwiches are the main offering so I take some ham and cheese rollups or ask for a tuna or cheese salad. Friends really won't mind!!

The eating out of politeness thing is a tricky one. If it's very much a one-off, then I suppose accepting a small portion of a carby food might be ok. But if it's a frequent occurrence it could be more difficult to accept the food without sabotaging this WOE.

I'm wondering whether it might be better to say to people "I have discovered that high carb foods don't agree with me very well/make me unwell." Which is actually true, since on a low carb WOE I feel less anxious, don't get bloating, don't suffer from joint pains etc. I think people are less likely to be offended that you have declined their food if they think there is a medical reason for it.

The eating out of politeness thing is a tricky one. If it's very much a one-off, then I suppose accepting a small portion of a carby food might be ok. But if it's a frequent occurrence it could be more difficult to accept the food without sabotaging this WOE.

I'm wondering whether it might be better to say to people "I have discovered that high carb foods don't agree with me very well/make me unwell." Which is actually true, since on a low carb WOE I feel less anxious, don't get bloating, don't suffer from joint pains etc. I think people are less likely to be offended that you have declined their food if they think there is a medical reason for it.

Aaarghh! Why did that post twice? Sorry!

I stuck to low carb but had two dinners last night. Oooops. We went to theatre and I was so hungry before I felt I might faint so stopped at a tex mex place but just had the salad bowl not a taco and no rice. So meat and salad with some beans. Then dh was v hungry after so we had loads of meat and cheese at a tapas place and two glasses of wine Oh well it was a top night.

That was meant to be struck out! —duh!—

As was that. Sigh

who knows it took a while but found it much easier to go from strong tea with a splash of skimmed to black tea than to tea with whole milk.* I started having the black tea a lot weaker and have gradually built the strength up. I accidentally drank a cup of tea with milk the other day, didn’t really notice but would have slightly preferred black. I didn’t think this would ever happen.*

Funnily enough neither do I (like cinnamon)

SayrraT that sounds even better

Totty well done.
My siblings and I used to fight at the breakfast table over who got to the top of the milk first, then a parent would grab the bottle and shake it.

I had an aunt who lived next to an icecream parlour where they made the icecream from the cream from jersey cows. She was our favourite aunt

Yolo we did a lovely low carb stuffing made with sausage meat last year. Got it off the net. Can’t help with the mince pies though

* Also, if posting that I have no regrets over a lapse might facilitate others to start doing the same thing then I apologise and will think more carefully about how I post. I really don't want to lead anyone astray.* I think the fact that you had no regrets shows that that was the right choice for you. All of us at times will make the decision to not low carb for a meal, a day, a couple of days. If we make this decision as a considered one with no regrets we’re on the right track. Other people’s view points are interesting. They should give pause for thought, not lead us astray.

Apologies for the string of posts. I’m sitting surrounded by people eating carbs, I’ve had my belly pork and water and I’m chatting to you lot

That's ok very it's only when I scrolled back I saw you were the only author. Lol. sometimes I don't read who the poster is

I will search for a meaty stuffing mix.

I hope I don't end up also making meaty mince pies