Pre-summer Bootcamp - our last weigh-in!

[BIWI]

Morning all. Very excited to hear the final scores!

Here's the Spreadsheet for its last outing this Bootcamp

We'll keep this chat thread going, and when it finishes, we'll start a new one so that we can keep the support going until next Bootcamp.

Hey wombatoo hope you're ok. I LOVE that song

We've got cheesy tunes going on here - Gimme Gimme Gimme a man and now 'I'm too sexy'!!!!

Can you stream me some better music please??

oatcakes a side effect of society's judgement of people who are overweight is the moralistic way we look at food. Apparently at the moment I am "being good", on SW "naughty" foods are called "sins" etc. It means that anyone obviously trying to eat well is somehow showing up people who aren't. Your refusal of chips is a judgement on them and they don't like it. So they are trying to undermine you in order to feel more comfortable with their own choices. Rise above, serene and joyful in your decision to put your own self and your health first.

C4 wise and lovely words.

Maybe it's the 4 am wake up (two poorly DDs, just sat in my room listening out for them) but I luffs you lot and all round

@oatcakesandcheeseplease - this is all about them and their feelings about their way of eating. They're projecting it all on to you. It's very similar to how other parents speak to you about your parenting choices - the way you choose to do things is a direct challenge to how they're doing it - and so they're trying to assert that their way is the right/best way.

When my DC were small, it was just as organic foods in supermarkets were gaining a real, mainstream/mass market foothold. And I used to buy a lot of organic food, wherever possible. All the milk and eggs that I bought were (and still are!) organic, along with all the fruit and veg that I could. I even used to buy organic gin - although I didn't let the DC have any of that

My parents came to stay one weekend, and my mum got really angry about what I was buying. I could have understood if it, if it was criticism about how much I was spending (even though we were able to afford it), but it was all just 'sound and fury' about the ridiculousness of buying organic. I couldn't understand why she would get angry about me doing something that should (in theory at least) be better for my children's health.

I realised some time later that of course she was angry with herself because she didn't do the same when she was bringing me and my brother up. She was angry, in other words, because she saw me as practising 'better' parenting.

I don't know what I'd do in your shoes - I have a similar-ish issue with my SIL, who is an ex-WW leader (but also at least a size 18-20 and constantly searching out no/low fat foods, believes low carbing is a fad, blah blah blah) and will simply not countenance this WOE. However, I don't have an easy relationship with her, so I just go with the flow and eat whatever they are when I'm with them - which means, of course, going out for pizza (in a restaurant that only serves pizza ), a house full of no/low fat food - but interestingly, all manner of 'naughty' foods, like Magnums (always mini, of course, as that's less naughty) and crisps.

If it was my other SIL, I'd have no qualms about tackling things, because I know she'd listen a bit more. We might agree to disagree, but we could at least talk about it.

I'm poorly too - 'just' a cold, although I feel dreadful. Had a horrible week last week, when I could least afford to be ill (two major projects coming to fruition at the same time), and still feeling grotty, although it does seem to be on its way out now.

Why do we say 'oh it's just a cold', when colds can make you feel so rotten?!

I was a complete and utter carby twat last night because I felt so sorry for myself. I thoroughly enjoyed what I ate (I shall draw a large veil over it), and it was something I haven't eaten for years. So back on it now.

I have a holiday booked at the end of October, and really need to do something serious about my shape/weight, as it has been creeping up for a while.

I wondered - would anyone be up for a Super Strict September? I'm considering an alcohol-free month, as well as strict Bootcamp for the month.

Oh god yes please BIWI, I am up for a triple S, I've been drinking waaaay too much wine. Sorry you've been feeling rotten, a cold is horrible - I had one recently which lasted 6 weeks cough wise.

Oh yes please to the super strict September BIWI
I do so much better when you are around waving your stick.

I am trying hard at the moment but keep slipping. What seems to be happening is when I have an event/ days away coming up (and there are lots now with it being school holidays) I am planning in my mind well in advance how I'm going to manage it food wise. Keeping low carb but making sure I am happy with what I eat while the others around me have carry "treats". And it works. Only when I come back/the next day I have a rebound. My mind set slips into I deprived myself mode (even though I definitely didn't) and I deserve a carby "treat" which leads to more carby treats which I may occasionally appreciate but generally don't. Someone on this thread or the emotional eating one mentioned it's like having a short term memory loss. I'd agree with that. I forget I will be awake all night with indigestion, that I prefer a plate of veg and butter to cold leftover chips, that I really want to fit into that shirt etc etc.

Today we are going to our favourite fish and chip town. DH kindly suggested somewhere else but I'm doing the egg fast and feel strong enough to sit eating hard boiled eggs and butter while they have their fish and chips. I just have to start thinking beyond that as well now, planning not to rebound.

Sorry all for going on. I just feel frustrated with myself.

Oh and you lot post such interesting, thought provoking and inspiring posts, thank you to all of you.

I'd be up for a Super Strict September. I'd like to try to lose at least 24lb by Christmas so that I can break the 12 stone barrier and that would help give it a boost.

But I must remember that I promised myself I will still be happy with an average loss of 1lb a week, so not to be annoyed if I don't achieve it. I'll still have made major progress from when I started in May at almost 15 stone and now being well under 14 stone

Thank you 💐💐💐for all your support and advice. BIWI, Oldbooks and others. I'm feel frazzled trying to fend them off - I had a go at OH for falling asleep and leaving me on my own with them!! Yes,it is their own issues with food and drink. Last night BIL guzzled down about 5 big glasses of wine on top of two pints of bitter and handfuls of nuts etc.

What would super slim September involve BIWI ? Is it something a newbie like me could do? If so, I'd be up for it
Sorry you're feeling so rough *B

Keep cheerful everyone be happy 😊 it's not easy sometimes, I know

Super stretch September sounds great BIWI, a great way to get back into the swing of things after a bit of a lazy summer holiday for me!

Strict not stretch!

Hi all 😊
Sympathies for those dealing with low fat/SW/WW people. My DP drinks like a fish and eats high fat, carb, EVERYTHING food and still comments on my diet. Less and less since I started pointing out the flaws with his way of living though. And he does cook stuff I can eat now, so I think he's 'getting' it. Good job I love him 😊
I've had 4 days of lchf eating followed by a couple of glasses of wine. Last night I had cider (organic flat type). I don't even want to know how bad that is! The kids go to their dad's tonight, and I'm back at work tomorrow. So I'm tempted to redo the egg fast, this time with better organisation and no wine!
Definitely up for a super strict September. DP will think I'm being 'boring' but I'd like to get into some of my old jumpers and things for winter. It will save me money too!
Taking the dog's bed and bowls to the RSPCA later. The kids want to look at the dogs but I think it's a really bad idea! We can look at the cats though. I'm allergic so we can't possibly have one

Oh, and I wanted to post what I normally say to people who question my WOE. Usually they say "Oh I couldn't possible live without bread/chocolate/etc". I say, "I love those too, but when I am eating bread etc I find I eat SO MUCH of it. I think I must find it addictive! When I eat like this it fills me up more and I don't run to the food cupboard 3X a night for biscuits/toast etc".
For some reason people seem to accept this better than me trying to explain it any other way.

Wombat thank you, what you said really touched me. Go and see Baby Driver if you love music, we went last night it was awesome. We are here for you, never forget that.

Oldbooks sorry to here about poorly small people, I luff you too.

BIWI I'm in for a sss especially as I have a wedding mid September in Denmark. Would love to get under 10st for the event.

My parents were here for the weekend. They are in their mid eighties, so I was expecting trouble but in fact they were incredibly supportive. My mum did keep asking if I was allowed certain things, and I stopped trying to explain to her that i tried to view as a series of choices rather than a set of 'thou shalt nots' because I know that she was only trying to understand. I suspect that she's already away fretting about what to cook me on my next visit. I kept reassuring her that meat and veggies were fine, I just wouldn't have the other stuff, but she's concerned that's not special enough. But overall, much less painless than expected.

I'd def be up for a reboot September. I'm still being quite strict (a few berries, couple of macadamias, occasional square of 99% chocolate) is as wild as I get, but I'd like the extra support because September is always a bit of a sad month for me.

Went to RSPCA. The lovely and very patient staff let the kids look at all the animals. DD(8) had some pocket money left so bought a toy for the 'lonely puppy' (separated from its siblings because it was waiting for an op) and for a 2 year old staffy cross with a funny squeaky bark. Photo shows the 'lonely' puppy, who received his toy very enthusiastically - hence blurring!

My first NSV; I am starting to have a smoother silhouette instead of random lumps and bulges. Haven't got a 'before' photo so can't show the difference; but I did take a bra-and-pants pic the other day to refer to in future.

ilove We will see you through September.

BIWI I am up for a strict September. I am going to try giving up alcohol but I really don't know if I can That is some admission right there.
Alcohol is such a big part of my life as DH and I go out with friends every weekend and there is NO chance that he will give it up. Count me in.

Wombattoo, I would certainly have said that about me and alcohol 8 months ago. Our social life pretty much revolved around drinking. I'm older, so it wasn't about clubs and pubs, but an awful lot of dinner parties/supper parties/'girls' nights in/work functions where 'respectable middle class drinking' was the norm. To be honest, I would probably struggle to think of an alcohol free night all of 2016. My husband announced just before midnight on NYE that he was having his last drink for a year. Although we hadn't discussed it, other than constant guilty mentions of 'we must cut down. Sometime' I said I would join him. I didn't expect us to see it through NYD at that point. After all, there was champagne in the fridge. I won't lie, the first 6 weeks weren't fantastic, but suddenly it was as if a switch was thrown, and we just stopped thinking about it. We've had several big celebrations since, and a holiday, all without alcohol. It was a revelation to me how much better I would feel, and I also realised I know have different coping mechanisms in times of stress. I don't know if one or both of us will start again when the year is over, but 2017 has certainly redefined my attitude to alcohol.

ilove thank you for that post and congratulations for sticking to it for so long.
We have quite a busy social life but neither of us drink through the week. Weekends we tend to binge drink. Fri/Sat for me even through boot camps

I am def going to try give up for September and who knows after that!

Like the sound of September as I will be rethinking meals for Autumn and dont want to drift away from bc principles but know that salads and gallons of water will not appeal in the grey wet days to come.

Count me in for a super strict September, thank you BIWI.

Notice what faith I have in the Bootcamp process these days, I sign up without asking for any details, I could be signed up to anything

I can't do a strict September. I'm away for a week and supposed to be away a second week but the 2 impending ops will probably put paid to that.
So I'll try but it'll be difficult.
And I'm on more bloody bollocking nights this week.

We have five family birthdays in September, including my own, near the end of the month.

I am totally up for a super strict Bootcamp. Totally.

#namastebitches

Well I had a boiled egg with butter for breakfast and took out three boiled eggs with butter and cheese for lunch. I struggled to eat them (all I wanted was to pinch the salad from ds's burger) but did. There is no way I can eat anything else tonight. I feel very sick. I keep thinking I'll maybe manage a two egg omelette later to make it up to the six but the very thought is stomach churning and this is only the second day.