Week 8 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - two months almost done ...

[BIWI]

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

So the finish line is almost in sight. I see from the last thread that some of you have been struggling to stay on track - just three more weeks to go, so stay focused.

That 'it's only one piece of bread/one glass of beer' moment really isn't worth it. Been there, got the t-shirt.

If you're bored with the food - there are two things that could help you. Firstly, think back to the last time you were doing a low calorie/low fat diet - how awful was it to have to scavenge the shelves looking for something low calorie enough, and how often were you eating food that didn't actually taste that nice, but delivered only on the basis of being low calorie? Rice cakes that might as well be polystyrene ceiling tiles, for example!

And then go and read the recipe thread for some inspiration, and find something new to cook. There's nothing on there that's difficult to do.

I'd also say that I see a lot of you are trying to recreate things that are high carb - pizza or bread, for example. These things are very unlikely to be the same, or as nice, as the high carb versions. And all the time you're trying to recreate something you're missing, you're just reminding yourself that you're missing something!

So try not to do this, but focus on things that are beautifully low carb and that you can enjoy for their own taste and benefits.

Here's to a successful week for us all.

Evening all! Catching up as had a busy day.

Wow flummoxed that just have been very scary indeed . Glad to hear you are all ok.

C4 don't waste any more mental energy on that woman. She clearly has ishoooos that you can't do anything about. She will be found out one day and lose all her friends and family.

jim I'm amazed at the weight lifting. Well done you! You also sound like you are feeling on a much more even keel than last week. I hope this is the case.

dust sending you my love and warmest thoughts. Like many others, I too have no experience of childlessness but a family member has and I recall feeling so guilty when I was accidentally pregnant and she was trying so hard to be and failing. She was so gracious about it and I was very grateful for that. I knew it must have caused her a lot of anguish and pain. She was later successful and now has 2 DC and pregnant in her 40s. I also have managed to carry and deliver and raise my own DC despite chronic health conditions (not as bad as ME) but which have made it a terrible physical struggle at times and at other times has been life threatening. What I mean to say is never give up hope. Don't grieve just yet for what you may still have one day. If you are actually 65 years old please ignore what i just said .

Dustmotes - it's so good that you felt safe enough to share. for you.

While we are sharing cute photos of pets, here are our two new kittens (got them when they were 6 months old 3 months ago to replace our big softy who was run over 10 months) and one of them with our "old" cat who after 3 months has finally just about stopped hissing out them and is reluctantly but wanting to beginning to sleep with them.

I'm loving all these cat pics! Need more doggy and bunny ones please!

Hey everyone I have had a thought. I know, I should be careful about those. But here it is.

Shall we arrange a meet up for when boot camp is finished? I feel like I've got to know you lot and would love to have a drink lunch and a laugh and carry on the group IRL. Who would be up for this?

I was thinking in London purely for ease of rail transport in and out from all regions. But there might be better suggestions. Whaddyathink?

C4 His name is Stanley, or more precisely Lord Stanley Hector Hackney, Earl of Stoke Newingshire. Obvs we only announce him like this on his birthday or if DH has watched Gladiator, in which case he gets the full intro of commander of the armies of N16 and general of the feline legions, father to murdered Kittens etc

As the Billy Bunter of the local cat gang, but without any of the joie de vive as he's far too cantankerous, he isn't particularly butch. I've told him your lovely compliment anyway, but as per usual he's very non plussed by anything I enjoy.

He's captured there, in his favourite spot. He hangs out there for hours clearly having Caligula style fantasies in his head and throws deep shade at anyone brave enough to step on the patio. Total fluffy tyrant.

Stanley would never dare to watch me in the shower, it would be far too disgusting for him. Our naked bodies, and really just general presence is totally loathsome for him. I've had cats all my life and I don't think I've ever come across one quite so bored of people as our Stan.

The lengthly list of his dislikes is unbelievable but these include children, snow, tiled floor, washing lines, newspapers, people laughing, popcorn, umbrellas and most of all Christmas, never has a meme been so apt! He doesn't like to be touched or eat cat food, will not be contained and does absolutely not shit where he eats, litter tray is for peasants, much to my neighbour's annoyance.

Yes, I probably love my cat more than my children and certainly my husband and its a huge bone of contention. Don't care, he's gorge and I'm the only one he will properly cuddle.

Also am I the only one who keeps reading sewers as well..Sewers?! I have now on several occasions thought you'd all gone a bit Corbyn style with your hobbies.

I would love a RL meet up but London is out of the question for me, it would mean a three day trip minimum. I could do Birmingham. We could take our group into a safer, more private platform to continue once BC is over.

Thanks everyone, still rather woozy with the pain killers, and sore but hoping to do a bit more today. And yes it was scary, but kids were brilliant as were other drivers on the road and the services who very quickly responded. So much kindness.

I've written several responses to others and lost them. I think I've written three times to you Oldbooks congratulating you on your photos and at how elastic your skin must be to bounce back so smoothly

I am again getting serious pet cravings. We've always had dogs and cats but two years ago, when our last dog and cat died within a short space of each other, and at ripe old ages, made the decision not to have any more pets. Out last cat was also a Stanley Sasha a great strong semi wild ginger tom. He'd go the whole, innocently lying tummy exposed waiting for it to be tickled thing, then as soon as the hand went down the claws and teeth would clamp in. We loved him so much he always got away with it. I confess to being confused about your Stanley though as (I've checked back through the thread) he appears to be ginger in one picture and grey in another.

And dustmotes I've been there and feel for you. Also do not feel guilty about the "friend" your feelings towards her were a direct result of her actions.

sasha I am loving Stanley's full titles that's the kind of thing DH and I do, I think Dcat has a richer fantasy life than we do!

And yes I keep reading it as sewers and thought someone had problems with their drains or something!

Flummoxed thank you, it's surprising to me how many of you have commented on my skin as its not something I notice! I tend to focus on negatives like scars, stretch marks and blemishes. DM has wonderful skin, nearly 70 and barely a wrinkle, so I suppose its in the genes.

Dust how are you feeling this morning?

Style I hope that one can learn to sew at any age as I intend to! There are loads of YouTube tutorials. All I need now is some free time

I'm glad it's not just me who misread sewers .

Sorry you are feeling so fragile dust . Perfectly understandable though. You must take care of yourself.

I have just finished my nights call out. Debating whether to go and lie down for a whole 30 mins before I have to get DS up or not.

Oh and Sir Stanley is fabulous! And the tangle of siamese . All of the pets are gorgeous. Here is another of my dog when she was on her holidays last year, while we were on ours, looking completely miserable and lost without us ! It was the first time we'd all left her for more than a night away. She's 8 years old. That's really bad, isn't it ? She is a spoilt pup.

I'd be totally up for a BC meet. London scares me a bit though.

I would post a pic of my (not)DCat but it would immediately out me, he's very distinctive!

Well today is the day we go down to the south coast for a family wedding tomorrow. My 4G doesn't work on my phone at the moment, so I won't be coming on here. Hoping they have some BC friendly food there!

Hugs to everyone that needs them.

I thought I hung around here a lot, but even I am starting to find pages of new comments every time! You sound really down, Dust, I hope you feel better soon.

I'm not really a cat person at all. Dogs are a different matter though. My wee pooch is a bit distinctive, and I'm always posting pics of her on FB (I know, one of those people) so I'd better not post her here. I happened to be on DD's computer yesterday, so I went to mumsnet via the home page, and saw we were in active, and did feel a bit surprised. It's easy to forget how public it actually is. However, despite all the dire warnings Ive given my kids over the years about internet safety, most of my current real life friends are all people I met online initially via places like Feminist Parents and Yahoo groups (remember them? The internet was just a baby). Had some great meet ups and even holidays over the years with them. But I still don't want them to know what I wegh!?! What's that about, then?

Still sticking with it. 5 pounds to lose until my goal weight. Feels close, but also frustratingly far.

Loving this thread (even though I've recently cleared out my fabric stash, having accepted ai was never actually going to make those clothes). Had lessons as child and adult, but never really made anything that actually looks good, on my own. Have some things I have made in a class that I really like, but that then gets expensive and rather defeats the object,

Just had an omelette and honestly couldn't finish it. That never used to happen to me, I would just have pushed myself to eat it all. Today, I found myself thinking I really don't have to finish.

Feeling proud and very glad of all your support #namastebitches

Ooohh, sunborn tantalising...

Sasha I'm loving Sir Stanley even more now you've described his personality.

I've woken up feeling rubbish this morning, got plenty of sleep and the required time on the ventilator, I feel despondent and lethargic today. Obviously not helped by eating virtually nothing for almost a week now. DH cooked me a piece of salmon last night for dinner, dished up with a lovely salad from our garden. He said I had to eat it all and he encouraged me for an hour to keep going which I did.

I'm wondering about going off piste today just to get some sustenance, BIWI, STUNT what do you think?
I'm not wanting to be a total carby twat but I could eat some grapes a smoothie with pear, cucumber, celery, chard.
Physically I'm very weak so cooking for myself today is probably not an option. I have to confess that I could easily open my box of Birthday Thornton chocolates and have a couple but don't really want to.
I don't understand why I'm not absolutely starving, no gnawing, rumbles from my tummy - nothing. I could quite easily go through another day without eating anything.
I need to sort myself out ready for DD graduation on Tuesday. Still don't have anything to wear, DH will take me shopping on Saturday if I start eating, I have ordered some stuff which was supposed to be next day delivery on Sunday but it still hasn't arrived.

What do people think about taking our group to a different platform where we can be more private and share more about our lives?
I would want to stay on the MN after bc thread too but I feel that we have something special going on here. I would love to post a picture of my face but not here and that makes me a bit sad.

I'd love to make a Midlands meet up happen and Hippa has started a whatsApp group if anyone wants to join us. I think a big meet up sounds fantastic but as I said previously London would be difficult for me and not really very fair on those who are in the North. Birmingham would get my vote, good transport links from the south, North, Wales. Wherever we choose wouldn't suit everyone.

Loving all the animal pictures! I have spme very cute guineas but as I share them on FB quite frequently I don't want to share them here.
Have a good day all!

I think that's a good idea C4 I don't share anything personal on here and a few times I've wanted to because it could have been helpful.

Maybe we could have regional meet ups (anyone in the North West?) and a massive Birmingham one.

Love all the animal photos. Absolutely wonderful!

Dust - my sympathies. Will you be going to the funeral?And really sorry to hear about your sister (if that makes sense). I can really empathise with that. I'm unlikely to have children and it tears me apart if I think about it too much. Have thought for a while that if I win the lottery I'd go down the sperm donor route - since that's my best chance you can see how unlikely it is. And yes, when I hear of younger cousins, friends etc falling pregnant it really does hurt.

Have you thought about adoption or surrogacy? (Apologies if that's too personal a question.)

I've discovered that I can ignore bought cakes and biscuits, but not those which I make myself, which is a bummer. I think it's the thought of my hard work going to waste. Will have to slice it up tonight and freeze it.

Apart from that, yesterday I had:

L - Salad of cucumber, tomato, pepper, olives and ham, with olive oil; yoghurt
D - (Don't shoot me) a very small portion of egg fried rice. Total carbs for the rice would have been about 15g, plus mushrooms, salad onions and 2 eggs, fried in olive oil; yoghurt. I gave up on dinner as I'd had to wait for DP after work so didn't get home til gone 7, then he was in the garden til 9, and by that point I was past caring.

Here's for a better day today.

Oh, and I love the idea of a meetup but can't see myself being able to attend. I live in the far north of Scotland, and other than a trip to France next week have no plans to go anywhere until Christmas, when I'll be down in London.

C4 - would love to go to Birmingham as I've never been, but really can't justify it this year.

I think my small concern is that it has the potential to leave the BC threads a bit anodyne if we all upsticks and go to, e.g., a private FB group or similar. We came together I suppose to do something, and it's great if it morphs into something else afterwards, BUT I wouldn't want it to be at the cost of the current bootcamp threads. Nor would I want to lose the support of BWIW, Stunt, etc. I also suspect there are a lot of lurkers here who wouldn't necessarily want to go elsewhere, but who get a lot of support from these threads.

I agree ilove, at the end of the day my priority is to drop this pigging weight before my wedding and this is my second bootcamp in a row with no break in between them, we just stayed on the week 10 thread which was fine and dandy

For me the focus needs to be on weight loss and for that i need BIWI and Stunt and the bootcamp threads, it helps me to read not only the successes but also peoples struggles with food etc and I think the threads will go quiet if the regular posters disappear off.

I'm staying put :)

Yes, my main focus is getting back to a healthy weight. I love the chat and support, and I'm on here a lot too much. It pretty much meets my needs perfectly. Enough off topic to be fun, but still with the right focus.

There is no reason why some people couldn't have an additional group elsewhere. On one BC a group of us got on really well and started chatting elsewhere, we still came to the BC thread.