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Week 6 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we're racing on!

722 replies

BIWI · 26/06/2017 07:26

Morning campers!

Here's the spreadsheet

Some good losses reported already this morning!

Four weeks left, so we could still see a good half stone disappear if we're vigilant.

The hot weather looks like it's disappearing this week, so hopefully anyone still struggling with water retention should find some relief.

But good luck to us all

Flowers
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C4pinkwheels · 28/06/2017 08:14

Looking back at my medical notes the 600 calories was based on a BMR of 1250 less 50% to compensate for paralysis.

AdalindSchade · 28/06/2017 08:18

That dietician is a quack.

C4pinkwheels · 28/06/2017 08:20

Food today - I'm going to try really hard to eat three meals today, I had no dinner last night because I was too tired but had a very small bowl of FF Greek yogurt with 10 blueberries.

B hard boiled egg mashed with butter and mushrooms cooked in butter
L I'm out at a hobby based thing until 2pm but will take hard boiled egg, olives, cold meat, celery with me to nibble on.
D 1/2 duck breast with roasted veg

Stunt would it be useful if I take photos of my food to give you an idea of portion size?

NamelessEnsign · 28/06/2017 08:27

C4 well that makes more sense. So that isn't what your final prognosis was, and did your dietician then misread your notes and give you that figure? That's disgraceful.

ilovecherries · 28/06/2017 08:30

Some health professionals are so unhelpful. I may have told this story before but at one point I was begging the doctor to look at my food diary because it felt that no matter how strictly I kept to a calorie restricted, low fat diet, I was gaining weight (plus of course, I felt like shit). And he refused to look, saying that he knew one thing for sure - even if I was only eating two lettuce leaves a day, if I was still gaining weight, then the answer was to eat one lettuce leaf. I was distraught after that, and decided I was going to learn to live with, and like, my fat body, because I couldn't continue hating and myself and battling with calorie counting.

Last year I have to say I got a lot of support from a few people on S&B who really helped me with that, I bought some nice clothes that fitted properly and started to feel a lot better about myself. And while obviously fat (around 15stone 10 at that point, although reasonably tall), I did stop gaining weight as soon as I stopped calorie restricting. I had a month or two initially when it seemed to rise, then I dropped a few pounds without doing anything, and it all stabilised.

But I was well over 50 when the doctor said that to me. Had he said something similar to a 20 year old, I think the consequences might have been devastating. It nearly destroyed me, but thankfully I was able to say, well, fuck you, rather than trying to half my already restricted calories, which was essentially what he was telling me to do.

FinallyHere · 28/06/2017 08:59

Goodness what a story ilovecherries.

With the notable exception of a few doctors who have caught onto the LCHF approach, so much of what doctors generally say about food is just wrong these day. They get very little training in nutrition so end up with a very simplistic model to work from. Nutrition is such a very complex area, there is no wonder their current advice is just not helpful. We are so used to considering doctors as all wise and knowledgable, it just doesn't work like that in nutrition.

It leads me on to thinking, what else are they wrong about. Statins? Etc...

JiminnyCricket · 28/06/2017 09:22

Morning,

My world seems a little bit less shit this morning, DP came home and after a cuddle and a cup of tea things settled down.

I didn't binge. I ate my crispy duck and stir fry, and I had about a table spoon of peanut butter afterwards, that was that. Incredibly proud of it actually and you were all spot on, if I'd have binged today would have been much harder to get through.

Dad has his operation this afternoon, his gall bladder has torn, releasing the bile and stones into the abdo cavity. That happened to me when I was 18 and it also happened to my Grandad, it seems we just have a shit gallbladder gene! Gallbladder is being whipped out this afternon and they'll try and keep him stable until the acute pancreatitis he also has passes. Nightmare.

I'm not doing IF this week as suggested. My apitite has bombed so I'm just eating as and when I fancy something, seems more logical at the minute!

Cherrypi · 28/06/2017 09:28

Well done Jiminny. Hope your Dad's operation goes well.

I know low carb deals with fat differently but does the fact you are eating less because you are full on fat also cause you to lose weight?

dustmotesinthesun · 28/06/2017 09:34

C4 I would say with something like paralysis it's even more important you get really good nutrition. Cutting calories would just be another stress for your battered system. I am very sedentary and it does constantly concern me that I need less food than other people but then I've lost weight eating til I'm full at mealtimes and so I will KOKO.

I'm pleased today. I'm back to 11 stone 6. No idea what happened last week. Can't work out why I put on a pound and not sure why with being strict it hasn't dropped lower. But there we go. The scales have gone down and that's what's important. Next week I would like to see 11.5, ok body? Or else.

Well done Jimminy. I don't know about everyone else but waking up after a binge is just the most horrible feeling. Nothing is worth that. You did really well. Hope your dad gets better soon.

ClearEyesFullHearts · 28/06/2017 09:36

I'm a bit late to reply, OldBooks but a) you didn't sound dismissive at all and b) what about music as a treat?

Sounds odd, but nothing makes me happy in the way that blaring a favourite song and dancing my head off does. Your three-year-old would probably have fun as well. And it's exercise, so win-win.

Do that when you have a craving and see how you feel afterward. If still craving, crank up another tune. (I find singing at top of lungs very helpful also...)Grin

TimeIhadaNameChange · 28/06/2017 09:43

C4 - according to Livestrong the average person needs between 26 and 40 cals per kg of body weight depending on gender and activity level.

And here it says the people with paraplegia need 28 cals, whilst those with tetraplegia need 23 cals.

Not sure how reliable the first figures are, but since the second lot have come from the University of Washington Spinal Cord Injury centre I'd trust them. What they show, in my opinion, is that there certainly isn't that great a difference between a fully-able but sedentary body and a completely paralyzed one, certainly less than a 50% difference.

Hope you don't mind me looking it up and I hope this helps.

ChesterDrawers · 28/06/2017 09:44

Morning all,

Feeling very down in the dumps today, which I feel awful saying as I have nothing to moan about compared to some of you who are doing so well getting on with life. If you'll just let me have a little whinge though, in the hope writing it down will make me feel better. Please don't feel obliged to respond or give me sympathy, I just need to get all this off my chest.

Disclaimer: I have a sneaking suspicion that AF may be due so I may be blowing things ever so slightly out of proportion.

I work full time in a very demanding job, which seems even busier than usual at the moment. DS is 7 and I feel like I barely see him, he is also pretty demanding and would have loved a sibling to play with but that wasn't our decision, but that doesn't stop me feeling guilty about it all the time. My house is a complete shit tip, there is piles of stuff everywhere and I don't seem to have the time or the energy to make any great dent it. I do have a cleaner, and I know I am lucky in this respect, but she doesn't put stuff away, which means I shove all the crap in cupboards/wardrobes once a week and never get chance to sort it out. I barely get any free time, DH works away and weekends are spent ferrying DS round to parties, sports activities, trying to see parents/in-laws before they get the hump with us. I'm tired and run ragged and all I want to do today is eat shite, but I can't (and won't but I want to). I had a night out planned next week with some friends which I was really looking forward to and now I have to cancel because DH is away with work. I actually cried last night when he told me. I know how pathetic this sounds but I was really looking forward to getting dressed up, especially as I've lost a bit of weight. Final moan, I've just had to leave my little doggy at the vets for an op today. She's a rescue and we've only had her a month and she was really scared when I left her. I think she thinks she's been left again and I feel terrible about that.

TimeIhadaNameChange · 28/06/2017 09:47

Had a good day yesterday, other than my tub containing yoghurt and double cream managed to leak everywhere, despite being clingfilmed. Today I whipped the yoghurt and cream together, and double-wrapped the tub, so here's hoping!

In all I had:

B - nothing
L - salad of spinach, tomato, cucumber, olives and salami, with olive oil. Babybel. The remains of my Skyr and double cream.
S - 2 slices of corned beef
D - Thai green curry with curry paste, coconut milk, chicken, broccoli, mushrooms and baby sweetcorn.
2 cups of coffee and 1 tea (and lots of water, but that's a given for me).

JiminnyCricket · 28/06/2017 09:48

Cherrypi weight loss doesnt work like that unfortunately!

Although calories in vs calories out is basic thermodynamics and yes, is "true" to an extent, eating at a constant calorie deficit slows down your metabolism and means you're hungrier and more likely to subconciously consume more than you realise. So in actual fact, not eating is bad for weight loss!

Fat however makes you feel satisifed on fewer overall calories than carbs and to an extent protien too, so by eating fat you can eat fewer calories whilst avoiding the increased apitite :)

ClearEyesFullHearts · 28/06/2017 10:02

Chester Flowers

I'm about to head off for my weekly therapy session but couldn't leave you hanging.

The shit tip house--if you can afford it, allow me to highly recommend hiring a professional organiser and de-clutterer to come and sort at least one room in your house. You can find one by searching this website and it is worth the money.

For the night out--again, if you can afford it, book a babysitter! With a 7-year-old you could get away with a local secondary or sixth form student and feel comfortable. There is zero reason you shouldn't go out just because your husband is away.

As for the guilt you feel for lack of sibling and making the dog unhappy HmmGrin, see my destination above. I recommend counselling to figure out why you feel responsible for everyone's happinesseven when it's out of your controland ignore your own happiness, which is firmly within your control (social life, weight loss, etc).

Hope that makes sense and hope your day gets better.

RupertsMum2 · 28/06/2017 10:04

Can I ask a question? I take soya milk in my tea. The alpro soya I'm currently using says carbs - nil so is this ok to use? Would a soya latte be ok?

ClearEyesFullHearts · 28/06/2017 10:05

nekobus wanted to give you a big hooray for avoiding alcohol last night.

I managed to conquer the quiz night temptation of alcohol by, erm, not going. And my team won!

Obviously, avoiding activities that ring me pleasure isn't a long-term solution Hmm but I was knackered anyway.

Despite having gone to bed earlier than usual, I felt rubbish this morning. Then remembered I'd hardly drunk any water yesterday. Stupid move.

ClearEyesFullHearts · 28/06/2017 10:05

ilovecherries that doctor sounds like a dick. Angry

AdalindSchade · 28/06/2017 10:31

I think a soya latte would be ok - almond milk is also ok for this. I wouldn't have them every day though

HemanOrSheRa · 28/06/2017 10:39

Morning! I'm back after my sickness/general 'Let's Make You Feel As Crap As Possible' virus. D&V, sore throat, headache etc. Still feel a bit off but much better.

Jimminy Flowers.

Chester my DS is an only (sort of, he has 2 half sisters who are in their mid/late 20's). Honestly, please don't feel guilty. He will just have a different but wonderful experience of childhood. As my DP will vouch - siblings ain't all that! You may find, as we have, that your place becomes very popular as your DS gets older. No younger siblings pestering or older ones being horrid.

As for your dog - she will be FINE! She will get fussed all day and be so pleased to see you later. I hate leaving mine at the vets. Honestly, I such a wuss when it comes to my pets Blush. Humans I'm fine with but anything wrong with my pets redices me to a flappy, hand wringing wreck. Make sure you have lots of treats for her later Smile.

HemanOrSheRa · 28/06/2017 10:40

Reduces not redices. I wish my phone would stop making up words Angry.

cabbage67 · 28/06/2017 12:00

Just had a cracker triumph!

I've just made the recipe on Page 18 of the BC recipe thread. I didn't have any Cheshire cheese so I used a 70/30 mix of cheddar and parmesan.

BIWI said hers merged into one big cracker so I popped mine into the freezer for 10 mins before cooking and cooked them at a slightly higher temperature for 6 mins.

The ones that I hadn't spaced out enough did merge slightly but was able to cut them whilst soft to separate them.

Very tasty but unfortunately I have just eaten 4 in all the excitement

dustmotesinthesun · 28/06/2017 12:30

Chester everyone is entitled to winge. There ate always other people worse off.

Your poor dog. She'll be ok. You'll pick her up and she'll start learning you always come back for her. Definitely recommemd a professional declutterer too. If you can just get on top of things a bit it helps no end. Can you take a day off and use it just for you? Stressed plus busy is always a recipe for binging fir me so do anything you can to lessen your stress if that's possible

cabbage67 · 28/06/2017 12:36

BTW I'm not taking credit for BIWI's lovely crackers, after other LCHF baking disappointments, I'm just pleased to have found something I like!

JiminnyCricket · 28/06/2017 13:13

I JUST HAD A TROLLEY COMMENT!! Grin

About to share this in chat, but thought you guys would also appreciate Grin

I asked the butcher to cut me a slab of belly pork the size of your head then I hear 'Excuse me' right behind me; so I turned around and there's a lady in her 50's stood behind me having a good nosey in my trolley! HmmConfused

So I did the 'oh hello, can I help you?' Thing and she says:

'No but I think I can help you. I don't mean to be rude but I can see from your shopping where you're going wrong'

Hmm

So I said 'oh right, sorry I'll stop you there, are you talking about the butter and cream and lard and belly pork she hadn't seen yet? I'm on a low carb, high fat diet, so it's pretty standard meals for me!'

'Oh, have you tried slimming world? I've been on it since new year and lost 2 stone! It's really good you can eat as much as you want'

'Cool, well done on your weight loss, I've lost 3 and a half stone since new year on LCHF, it's great when you find something that works isn't it?'

'.... gosh that's a lot, well done'

'Thanks!'

My belly pork was ready right on cue so I trundled off with my clearly death inducing trolley Grin

Photo of the offending vehicle attached Grin

Week 6 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we're racing on!