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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 4 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Coming to the end of our first month

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BIWI · 12/06/2017 07:27

I know! Doesn't time fly when you're having fun? Wink

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for your delectation!

Remember, week 4 is, like week 3, a time when weight loss tends to be pretty slow, if not non-existent. KOKO and persevere, and things will get going again soon.

But not if you cheat! Whilst many of you have been very honest about your transgressions, just remember that this WOE is not a very forgiving one. It's not like a calorie-controlled diet, where you can compensate for one 'bad' day with a 'good' one. As some of you have already found out the hard way!

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Bibs2014 · 12/06/2017 22:03

I sts. Hoping for a big loss next week to make up for it Smile

achangeisgonnacome · 12/06/2017 22:06

B: COYO vanilla yoghurt-deliciously creamy
L: garlic and herb chicken slices with a ready prepped salad from Sainsbury's
D: not very hungry, so just had mixed olives, plus chorizo wrapped around gouda cheese.
S: two cups of tea and one coffee

WaaWaaWaaa · 12/06/2017 22:17

Noteven - your fat stores oestrogens and thus is released into the system as you lose the fat sooooo unsettled cycles. But look at it in a good way! You fat is shifting!

Captain! So did you learn the basics of knitting on your course or did you start on something? You should find a local knitting group. A material shop nearby my office does some on Saturdays. But I can't with the babies... 😶

B - cheese, bacon mushroom omlette
L- chicken salad +mayo
S- pork scrathings
Dear chicken wrapped in bacon and cheesy veg bake ,( was vile ricotta dies NOT make a good cheese sauce) Envy

WaaWaaWaaa · 12/06/2017 22:19

Oh and I've not made my bloody breakfast muffins. Gaaaaaaaah.

Oh and I just did my first injection at home of my arthritis meds though so proud of myself. Stung like buggery after!

littlebillie · 12/06/2017 22:27

Captain Just worried about inflammation or upsetting it generally all the information is contradicting from each diet tribe!

BIWI · 12/06/2017 22:31

@littlebillie - you've asked about gout and your pancreas - what have you been reading about low carbing?!

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Mandelinka · 12/06/2017 22:41

I've noticed my poop has a greesy film floating around it. Anybody else?
Sorry for TMI

My Zyliss manual food processor arrived yesterday and I couldn't wait to test it.
So far choppers: onion, carrot and herbs for my soup, cabbage and carrot for coleslaw., carrot and apple for my DS's snack

B:salami, haloumi, egg, spring onion fry up
L: soup ( spinach, carrot, lots of celery, pumpkin, onion) , exploded baby bell crumbled on top
D: pork belly with red cabbage coleslaw
S: coleslaw. Cream coffee. Dark chocolate ( plan to freeze it failed. All chocolate safely gone down my hatch)

Water and fruit sparkling tea about 2.5 l

Food for tomorrow: Lidl protein bun for B ( prob w pate and avo), L will be soup from the freezer and D cauliflower, pork belly and small portion of coleslaw. May do chopped green salad in my new gadget! Yay

littlebillie · 12/06/2017 22:49

BIWi I am on a very strong drug which has a steroid component which has added weight over the last few years. There is a lot of knowledge on here so I thought I would ask. I feel mostly okay and I am losing weight 😁 I just don't want short term gain to affect me in the future

BIWI · 12/06/2017 22:55

Ah! I did wonder Grin

What's the drug? There may be people more knowledgeable than me who can advise you

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YoLoZammo · 12/06/2017 23:00

B: creamy coffee, 2 egg/veg muffins
S: 1 tbsp ff yog and cream, 2 strawberries
L: leftover chicken and curried green veg and cauli
D: 2 slices pork belly Chinese style with stir fried veg. Had some peppers in which I left as they tasted like too sweet fruit.

Interestingly, I usually have a sugar crash mid afternoon, but today I didn't eat from 2pm til 10pm and didn't feel hungry, shaky or ill.

I haven't drunk enough water though! Still guzzling before bed.

littlebillie · 12/06/2017 23:01

BIWI I'll message you if okay

BIWI · 12/06/2017 23:03

Feel free! (Although I'm really not an expert and not sure I will be able to give you any more advice!!!)

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ragz134 · 12/06/2017 23:03

1lb up this week, which I am blaming on 3 hours sleep and election induced wine (and possibly Baileys) drinking. I was 2lbs up but lost a pound of it over the weekend.
It will go. It was worth it.

JiminnyCricket · 12/06/2017 23:03

littlebillie I understand your worries, I was exactly the same at the beginning because I've been told all my life fat is bad, carbs are good.

The way I got through it was to literally throw the book at it. I researched relentlessly in the first few weeks. I read Gary Taubes all the way down to Michael Pollen and even some vegan advocate books from my friend. I've read every single side of the scientifically minded diet argument (I avoided daddy crap like alkaline diets and superfood bullshit), looked at the raw studies (this took a week, 4 hours in the evening. Horrible) our dietary advice is based on in the UK and there's genuinely, genuinely only one conclusion you can draw from all of it:

There is no magic diet.
There is no right way to eat.

That's all.

However, overwhelmingly the evidence both epidemiological and lab based suggests that a diet rich in carbohydrates directly results in obesity. The correlation and the lab based evidential trials show a stronger relationship than cigarettes and cancer.

A book called 'the big fat surprise' is essentially a number of studies pulled together and reviewed, and it's a great one to read if you're struggling with the idea that fat is nutritious and essential to a healthy lifestyle.

If you're anything like me, hearing this will mean nothing and you'll need to go and find the research for yourself to believe a word of it Blush.. all I can say is do it. I used my skeptacism for a long time to put a wall up and protect myself from failure.

'I didn't fail on low carb, it's a dangerous way to eat so I consciously decided not to do it anymore'.

My biggest break through moment this whole time was the day I used my audible subscription to get 'why we get fat' by Gary Taubes. It wasn't the book, it was the decision to educate myself instead of using the 'its a fad diet, it's supposed to fail' reflex as a reason to stop.

I didn't stop and I won't stop because now I KNOW this WOE isn't a bad diet or a fad diet, I know it's healthy and now thinking any other way just feels like I'm cheating on my intelligence.

Last thing, you are not the only person who's thought about the consequences of low carb high fat diets but I'd encourage you to go and research as much as you can from REPUTABLE sources. If it's not published anywhere other than online, it's probably bullshit.

Flibbertyjibbit · 12/06/2017 23:07

Well done Waa I remember how nervous I was when I first injected methotrexate then moved on to injecting enbrel/etanercept - now on a different one but similar. Hope it works for you! My rheumy nurse advised me to leave injection out of the fridge for an extra 15 minutes than written down to help prevent the stinging.

JiminnyCricket · 12/06/2017 23:10

Xposted but I'll open the point to anyone else who's questioning if this WOE is healthy Grin

Yorkshirebornandbred · 12/06/2017 23:41

Another birthday party today and after a sleepless night I fell headfirst into a vat of sugar Sad Angry I was coaxed into eating a piece of birthday cake by the host and then had a glass of white wine and soda, followed by 1.5 small bars of Aldi dark chocolate. Feel bloated and uncomfortable and fat.

But tomorrow is a new day! I'll start again with strict bootcamp ... even though all i want is chocolate Sad All that hard work undone in an afternoon ... Sad

styledilemma · 12/06/2017 23:50

I'm AB+ so always in demand smile

yes, AB+ is highly in demand for platelet donation but not so much for ordinary blood donation. I think they prefer universal donors for that.

isn't there a new law in this country that women who have children arent allowed to donate platelets? Confused
something to do with antigens or something?

L238 · 12/06/2017 23:58

Getting anxious about this weekend/next week.
I'm going to a conference & staying in a house with a colleague and some of his friends, it was booked before I decided to start this WOE. They are all big drinkers I think Confused, and the conference food will be carby hell (usually sandwiches, crisps and fruit juice!) plus we'll end up eating out every night. I'm ok to go easy on the drinks (I'm not a big drinker anyway) but I'm a bit anxious at having to explain the food thing to people I don't know particularly well. Im happy to defend this WOE but I guess it will be a bit of a challenge which I haven't faced yet. Telling family was easy and colleagues haven't noticed.

Have scoped out an m&s near the conference venue which looks close enough to run to at lunchtime. I'm usually the one who ends up sorting restaurants in group situations anyway so hoping it will be ok!

C4pinkwheels · 13/06/2017 00:00

I just want to say a huge thank you to everyone who gives blood and platelets you are all amazing. I have A negative blood with unstable antibodies and every time I have surgery there is a nail biting 24 hrs prior to surgery while the exact match that I need is tracked down.

I have been fighting off an urge to open the box of Thornton chocolates I was given for my birthday and eat loads of them.
I feel really down about my weight I can't understand why I've gained this week, 5lb in three weeks seems fairly pathetic and I don't know if I've got the will to carry on, there is so much that I'm missing right now, fruit, porridge, toast to name a few.

Before I broke my neck I weighed 8st, all my adult life I was a size 8 or 10 apart from age related weight gain when I hit 40 which is when I did LC the first time. when I became disabled I kept eating the same but because I wasn't moving I gained five stone in the first year I was a size 16 which looked awful on my 5'2" frame and in a wheelchair it's even worse. Last year I went on a strict calorie controlled diet of two meals and just 800 calories a day in order to lose weight for my surgery. I managed to get down to 11st 9lb and lost another 7lb in hospital after surgery. I've been told that I have to get back to a normal BMI and then stumbled across BC and as LC had worked for me in the past.
I hate my body, the double chin the flabby thighs and the disgusting overhanging flesh that I can't see ever disappearing.
I want to be me again, I know it won't make me walk but it will be so much easier to move myself and my wheelchair around and can only be good for my breathing. It's going to be another six months before I can do any major exercise so I've got to lose weight by controlling what I eat instead.
I really feel like giving up but my DS gets married next July and I don't want to be a fat mother of the groom.

Bollocks - I hate feeling like this.

Yorkshirebornandbred · 13/06/2017 00:11

C4 I know what you mean .. I feel like so much is missing too. Carbs are such a big part of our lives .. I just want to be able to have the occasional piece of toast or sandwich, I miss my muesli in the morning ... I can't stand the sight of bacon, eggs, sausages and low carb veg anymore! My teeth hurt from all the meat I've eaten Sad

But I also can't stand the way I look, so I need to carry on.

Sorry everyone for the weak moment ... just fed up of being out and bit able to eat with everyone else.

YoLoZammo · 13/06/2017 00:54

Oh C4 and Yorkshire you are both doing so amazingly well. C4 in particular, you must have very strong reserves if determination, willpower and inner strength and forbearance just to get through each day with your physical limitations, let alone the surgery and other health challenges. Could you try and turn this amazing strength towards the challenge of not eating carbs and working towards a better body for the thing that you CAN control? It should be empowering to have that choice over your body where choice is lacking in other aspects. Stay strong, try some visualisations and keep focussed on your goals. Flowers

glenthebattleostrich · 13/06/2017 06:24

www.wholesomeyum.com/recipes/two-minute-toasted-english-muffin/

C4 (and others missing toast) I came across this recipe last night, hopefully it will be helpful. I've not tried it yet, I'm sticking to strict BC through the week but am planning to at the weekend.

There's a similar muffin recipe that is without the almond flour, just 1 egg, pinch of salt, pinch of baking powder, 2 teaspoons of coconut flour, mix put in a ramakin and microwave for about 1 l
/ 1.5 minutes. I add cheese to mine and it is very nice. Going to try cinnamon next.

Food today will be

B - ff Greek yogurt, green tea
L - mushroom and bacon lardon omlette
D - lamb something or other.

Right, off for a cold shower, our boiler has packed up.

Dumdedumdedum · 13/06/2017 06:35

Hi, there, I seem to have had a recurrence of my IBS since following this WOE. Logically, it is because I've been overdoing the dairy, (mostly butter and cheese) right? Of course, when I get IBS, I turn to toast and butter and Marmite. And gain weight! Would prefer a better solution, if anyone has any ideas, please?

JiminnyCricket · 13/06/2017 07:10

Oof! Come on you lot, where's all the positivity gone??

C4 you're such a strong woman from your posts, i think even you know that 5lbs in 3 weeks for someone who can't move much is bloody brilliant. For someone who's able to go to the gym, 1lb a week is a fabulous rate of weight loss and will mean a 4 stone loss in 12 months, you're well ahead of that! Week 3 and 4 are notorious for random scale results, it's not a real gain. Trust me, that gain will come off later on a random whoosh week, just think of it as banked lbs for then.

What diet do you invisage is going to help you lose faster than you are right now? Do you think that will be sustainable/ less restrictive than your diet now? Do you think this new diet will let you dive head first into the Thorntons? I don't know of a single one which would advocate that but ready to learn of one for sure Grin

You have more reason than any of us to get this weight off, your mobility will improve and you even have an event to aim for!

Did you know if you lost at the rate you are right now, by July next year you'll be 96lbs lighter??

Don't give up, you can do this and we're all right with you.