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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 3 - Summer Low Carb Bootcamp - we move on to Bootcamp Light!

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BIWI · 05/06/2017 07:46

Morning all

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness once more

I hope that the scales reflect the efforts you've made over the last, strict apart from the cheating fortnight.

Now you have a choice. You can either move on to Bootcamp Light, which allows a bit of fruit (berries mainly), for you to include nuts/seeds - again, occasionally, and also a moderate amount of alcohol. Rules for Bootcamp Light are on the spreadsheet, but to make it even easier for you here they are:

1. Eat when you’re hungry - if you’re not hungry, don’t eat

In Bootcamp, you should have been eating three meals a day. The point of this being to ensure that you got used to eating proper meals, and so that your blood sugar is regulated and stable. Having achieved that, you can now relax this a little bit. If you find you’re not hungry - which often happens, because ketosis suppresses your appetite - then don’t force yourself to eat. But don’t let yourself get so hungry that you make inappropriate choices! Always make sure you have plenty of low carb food to access quickly, if you need to.

2. Avoid processed food

Focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs.

You may include processed meats like bacon or (low carb) sausages, smoked salmon, smoked mackerel, gammon - but please don’t have these at every meal or every day. As well as being highly processed they often contain undesirable ingredients, can add unnecessary extra carbs into your diet, and often include sugar.

3. Eat lots of fat

Eating fat helps to keep you feeling fuller for longer. Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though, as this is too sweet and has too many carbs), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind

4. Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where the bulk of your carbs should come from, and this is non-negotiable. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat.
Beware that some of the veg on the allowed list can be surprisingly high in carbs once you make up a portion of it – this is because they are denser, and therefore you tend to use more – compare, for example, 100g of onion with 100g lettuce! Keep your focus on those veg which contain 3g carbs per 100g and use these as the focus of your meals. Use those over 3g per 100g sparingly.

5. You may eat some dairy

"You should aim to include plenty of butter on this WOE. Fry with it and add it to your vegetables. And if you know that dairy doesn’t impede your weight loss you may eat cheese, but don't overdo it. Full fat yoghurt is the best way to include dairy in your diet - but beware, it does contain carbs. Total Full Fat is the best.

If you’ve been cutting out tea/coffee, you can re-introduce this – but just be careful how much milk you end up drinking. You can end up adding a lot of extra carbs this way.

6. You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day

Even if you’re drinking more tea/coffee than in Bootcamp, this is still a non-negotiable part of this WOE. And the more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. Water helps to flush out the ketones that your body will product – so flushing out the fat. However, drinking this amount of water can affect your electrolyte balance; you need to make sure that you get plenty of sodium and potassium. There is less need to worry about restricting salt if you’re eating a low carb diet. Good sources of potassium are salmon and avocado. You could also consider supplements if you have an issue with this.

7. You may drink some alcohol

But restrict this to once or twice a week max. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine. Absolutely no beer/lager, cider, liqueurs, cocktails or full sugar mixers. You can drink spirits with artificial sweeteners, but bear in mind that we are attempting to avoid all things artificial!

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for your body, and it will use this over and above anything else that is available to it. Therefore, even if you’re following the diet absolutely to the letter, including alcohol can prevent weight loss.

8. You may eat some fruit

"Strawberries, raspberries, blackberries and rhubarb are all fine. But please – only once a day at the very most, and keep an eye on your portion sizes. Just for information – these are the carb counts:
Rhubarb – 0.8g carbs per 100g (but don’t forget you will need to sweeten this – and not with sugar!)
Blackberries – 4.4g carbs per 100g
Raspberries – 4.6g carbs per 100g
Strawberries – 6g carbs per 100g
Blueberries - 6.4g carbs per 100g (although this is a bit controversial - I have had differing carb counts from various sources - some saying as much as 12g carbs per 100g)

9. You may eat some nuts/seeds

Nuts/seeds can make a good snack. BUT it is incredibly easy to overdo it, and you can end up eating your bodyweight in carbs. As an occasional snack they are great, but keep it occasional and keep the portions to a small handful at most.

Macadamias are not only luscious, but they are very low in carbs.

Here are some carb counts – BUT – check the back of your packets as I don’t know if these are for raw or roasted nuts:
Brazils 3.1g carbs per 100g
Walnuts 3.3g carbs per 100g
Pistachios 4.6g carbs per 100g
Macadamias 4.8g carbs per 100g
Hazelnuts 4.8g carbs per 100g
Pecans 5.8g carbs per 100g
Almonds 6.9g carbs per 100g
Peanuts 7.1 g carbs per 100g
Cashews 18.1g carbs per 100g

10. Avoid artificial sweeteners

The aim of Bootcamp was to help reduce the stranglehold that sugar has on us – and to curb your sweet tooth. But it does make some things difficult, e.g. desserts at a dinner party, and it is undeniable that it can be enjoyable – occasionally – to eat something sweet. However, restrict such goodies. For some people, artificial sweeteners can impede weight loss.

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thenightsky · 10/06/2017 23:50

I too have been a bit of a carb twat Sad

Friday i was off work and had family over for lunch. Did salad and quiche. Ate the base of the quiche but quickly threw rest of pastry crust onto DH's plate.

Pud was strawberries and cream. Ok-ish.

Tonight was indian takeaway. Ordered chicken shashlik and cauliflower baji.. which came in sauce. Had two tablespoons of DH's rice and a lump of DS's naan bread.. I love garlic naan Sad

MaryThorne · 10/06/2017 23:55

Just caught up with the thread. I've had a super busy week with work mostly and don't seem to have had time to read the thread never mind post much!

I've have a good week after last weekend's carby faux pas. Eating all LCHF and generally drinking thereabouts enough water.

Thanks everyone for posting all your inspiring stories. Hopefully I'll get chance to share mine tomorrow, for now I

MaryThorne · 10/06/2017 23:56

Posted too soon...

for now I need to get some sleep!

Mandelinka · 10/06/2017 23:56

Wow kermit you look incredible

Mandelinka · 11/06/2017 00:08

I managed to do a 30 min walk/run around our park. It was such a beautiful morning and I felt great afterwards. Ended up doing some stretching underneath blossoming Lime trees and stayed laying in the sun for few extra minutes. Bliss

Onto Lidl afterwards to got eggs, shrooms, cream, ff Greek- the usual ( and few non lc treats for the rest of the fam)
B: fried egg, bacon, shrooms, tomato. Cream coffee
L: wasn't really hungry. cheese and prosciutto roll up. Carrot with hummus
D: take away chicken wrap, had only the inside of the wrap.
S: quite few squares of dark choco, have to stop buying this as enjoying chocolate too much.... cream coffe. Half an apricot, 5 blueberries

3 l of water - This is the easiest part for me

Thanks to whoever invented the fruit tea infused in sparkling water. I don't normally do sparkling, but this is seriously refreshing!

styledilemma · 11/06/2017 00:14

I bought some fruit tea and now I just need some sparkling water.

Will any fruit tea do?

YoLoZammo · 11/06/2017 00:37

Red berries is best. Lemon and peach is nice too.

YoLoZammo · 11/06/2017 01:51

I've let myself down today. Ate too much. Ate when not hungry. All lchf food but too much of it. Just snacking while watching TV. Haven't done that for weeks. Annoyed with myself. Tomorrow will be back on track.

Veryflummoxed · 11/06/2017 01:58

I love the sweet rhubarb and also the rose lemonade. I thought I'd try gingerbread green tea tomorrow, not sure that will work though.

CaptainBraandPants · 11/06/2017 07:02

Laughing at the half stone boots. Grin
giraffe what is done is done. Well done for putting it behind you and getting back to this woe. I hope your carb flu isn't too bad. When I have had a short period of carby twattiness, I find the resulting carb flu doesn't tend to be too bad. Flowers
thenight have a look at this lc garlic naan recipe. Maybe try making your own? I can't vouch for the recipe, but it's on my to try list.
YoLo but you stayed with lc food, so well done.

Off to my learn to knit workshop today. I've been looking forward to this for months. Smile It says tea, coffee and lots of biscuits are provided, so I shall take cream for my coffee and avoid the biscuits. You have to bring your own lunch, which is good. So, I shall take a salad in a coolbag.

Food today:
B: creamy coffee
L: tuna, olive and avocado salad
D: roast chicken dinner with lots of veg
S: more creamy coffee.

StuntNun · 11/06/2017 07:31

Weekends are a difficult time for staying on track. If you've been a carby twat then it's done now, the only thing that matters is how you react. Get straight back into eating low carb. Accept there might be carb cravings and the scales might go up. Drink lots of water. If you can do some exercise then that will help you burn of the stored glycogen more quickly. But most important, how do you feel? Do you have a tummy ache? Do you feel bloated or nauseous? Was it worth it? Some cheats are worthwhile, most are not. If you can use this as a learning opportunity into how carbs affect you then you're making progress into making low car your way of eating for life rather than a temporary change.

Cherrypi · 11/06/2017 08:21

Morning bootcampers. Had a few indiscretions in the last couple of days. Stayed up for a lot of the election results on Thursday and tiredness is definitely one of my triggers ended up eating half an Easter egg. Yesterday ended up doing some afternoon drinking and ate a sausage roll when I came home. Dreadful hangover last night though. I'm back on it today. Had some prosecco yesterday and it tasted so sweet I couldn't finish it.

ChesterDrawers · 11/06/2017 08:36

Hectic couple of days so just catching up with the thread. Loving all the inspirational stories. Mine's a bit rubbish but...

First went on WW when I was 14 and weighed 8st 12 (found my membership card a few years ago). What my mother was thinking of, I'll never know. Anyway that started a lifetime of yo yo dieting, coupled with pretty bad binge eating. I'd be 'good' for weeks then totally derail, eating whole boxes of chocolates in one sitting. Eventually I managed to get my weight pretty stable til I quit smoking, then gained a stone and a half which I never managed to lose, but was still at the top of my bmi. Got pregnant, ate donuts for 9months and unsurprisingly gained a fair bit of weight, which I'm still trying to lose even though DS is nearly 7 Blush. My problem is I can't stick to anything. I flit between LC, WW, SW, but none work because I don't stick with it. I think this is something like my sixth bootcamp, only lasted two weeks last time. But I keep coming back because I know this works, if only I'll let it.

Was very proud of myself yesterday. We were out all day at a sports thing with DS then went to the pub with friends. There was literally nothing on the menu so I didn't eat did have three glasses of wine though Also ran 4 miles in the morning.

Yesterday was:
B: bacon, scrambled eggs, mushrooms
L: nothing as out all day
D: flax bread thick with butter and pate - amazeballs

Today's plan is to have more veg:
B: scrambled eggs, mushrooms
L: not sure
D: donner kebab, tzatziki, big salad with oily dressing

TimeIhadaNameChange · 11/06/2017 09:39

Did anyone else grow up with parents who had skewed ideas of normality wrt food and exercise? I was thinking about this last night and realised how unhelpful some of my mother's beliefs have been over the years.

Foodwise she was always on a diet, so it was always low fat foods we had in the house: skimmed milk, low-fat Flora and yoghurts, low-cal treats etc. I know this is what she was being told was good for her, and me, but it is the amount se treats that gets me. Even now she can't have lunch or dinner without pudding (even if it's a tin of fruit with yoghurt). She asked me a while ago if I always have pudding and was amazed I said no, only on Sundays (if at all, and maybe then Monday if there are leftovers).

But then she'd go and buy chocolate and go one about how she was being 'naughty'.

I think I have reacted to this all by going the other way, but too much. I switched to butter a couple of years ago (so much nicer!), use olive oil by the spoonful and refuse to see anything bad in snacking. Somehow I need to find a healthy balance in all this.

She'll moan about how much exercise she did when I was at junior school, walking me there and back each day. About 4 miles in total. Now, whilst this isn't insignificant she seems to think this is far more than anyone should, but since that equates to about 8,000 steps it's no more than the (now) ecommended daily average. Then, when I used to walk myself to senior school she believed the three miles I walked each day meant I was the fittest in my year. But I most definitely wasn't as I didn't do any actual "exercise" (I getting the heart pumping and being out of breath). Even now, when I told her I cycled nearly ten miles the other day her only reaction was "why?". Despite all the "you should do exercise x times a week" messages you hear she's never seemed to get it.

Unfortunately I never managed to react too much against that belief!

And lastly, despite often moaning about how fat I was (other than when I was a teenager and could have done with some gentle encouragement) she has a weird idea of what is an ideal body shape. I mentioned I'd kill for the bodyshape of the daughter of a friend of mine a few years ago, and my mother's reply was "what shape, she has no shape". Now ok, at that point she hadn't quite developed boobs, but she's always been slim without being skinny and now, a few years later, is gorgeous. But my mother doesn't see that.

No idea where I'm going with this. I've been an adult half my life (supposedly) yet it's interesting how much I've had to fight against childhood influences. No idea what my mother will say when she realises I'm not eating bread, potatoes, rice etc ("But you HAVE to!" Will be her response, no doubt.)

GoodBadOrIndifferent · 11/06/2017 09:53

captain and thenight the coconut naan is lovely, more a flatbread but the outside was nice and crispy and really satisfying!

RubyGoat · 11/06/2017 09:55

Urgh. Just weighed myself, I'm up by about half a pound compared to the last weigh-in. I've been on late shift this week (horrible in terms of ease of meal prep & times), I finish too late to walk home so my only option is the work taxi into town, & my back has been awfully painful so I've been on quite a lot of pain killers which make me drowsy. But I had a day out with DH & DD yesterday & we walked 11k (even DD who is 5!). So that was nice, I did allow myself a few raspberries with breakfast as I knew I'd burn them off!

Interestingly, so far my migraines have been less of a problem since I started this WOE. I suspect it's the stabilising effect on my blood sugar, I've known for years that spikes can trigger them.

cabbage67 · 11/06/2017 10:10

Kermit You look fab in that photo.

First drink I have had in nearly 3 weeks and I feel shit! I have discovered a new drink though and that is vodka and soda, a slice of lime and a couple of slices of fresh root ginger.

Went out for tapas last night and avoided the bread and ailoi and patatas bravas, but maybe had one white wine too many. Not feeling my best this morning.

Look forward to trying some new recipes today with the psyllium husk powder that arrived yesterday.

Have a good day everyone.

Asmoto · 11/06/2017 10:41

Namechange My mum is tiny, and has always been slightly underweight (about 6.5 stones at 5' 1). She once told me the most she had ever weighed was 8 stone - when she was fully pregnant with me! She has never been on a diet in her life - she's just a naturally small eater (and an incredibly slow eater) - but happily eats small portions of cake, chocolate etc. on a daily basis. My dad has always been a completely normal weight.

Consequently I had never really heard of dieting in my childhood - I thought your weight was your weight and that was it. I wasn't overweight as a child, but put on weight in my mid-teens due to bullying at school and comfort-eating binges when I got home everyday.

I was about 3 stone overweight by the time I was 17; then it occurred to me for the first time to try going on a diet, which I did - I counted calories and lost the weight quite quickly. Kept it off throughout my student years, but once I started work, I began to suffer bouts of depression and my weight began to yo-yo which it has carried on doing for the 20 years since Sad.

Weight-gain is intrinsically linked to depression for me. I have just come out of an 18 month bout of severe depression where I haven't really been able to do anything other than go to work or lie on the sofa at home eating rubbish. I put on 3 stone in that 18 months. I am hoping I will stay out of depression long enough to get my weight back on track. Gaining weight worsens my depression because I can't bear to look at myself and getting dressed becomes something I have to nerve myself to do.

I have definitely had more energy since beginning this WOE and I am hoping the more even blood-sugar will help stave off the 'brain fog' which can lead me into a depressed state.

Sorry, that turned into my life-story rather than a simple answer to the question!

styledilemma · 11/06/2017 10:51

I have pomegranate & raspberry tea. I'll make myself one later.

I've also made some more of my almond milk, double cream and vanilla ice lollies to have as a treat.
I haven't made too many this time. Hopefully it'll stop me going overboard with them.
I was having one every night Blush

Copperas · 11/06/2017 10:52

On a two day train journey across France and Italy - classic eating time in my family. But I'm sticking to this WOE by not being hungry. Even though I dont seem to be losing weight I feel so much better. Mind you, I havent been fully tempted yet ...

styledilemma · 11/06/2017 10:52

I gave up on the coffee ones, they tended to 'separate' and didn't taste right without any sweetener.
The plain ones are lovely though and don't need sweetening.

styledilemma · 11/06/2017 11:04

Also ran 4 miles in the morning.

Chester I've also started running. I'm not doing CT5K, but it's similar.

I run 3 times a week and I'm up to being able to run (jog slowly more like) for 20 min, run 1 min walk, 9 min run.

I've never run in my life before so I'm quite proud of achieving even that. Smile
Two more weeks and I should be able to do 30 mins non stop.

I'm sure that all this running + this woe is helping shift the weight quicker than it normally would. Maybe the running probably helps the whooshes happen quicker? or something Shock

BIWI · 11/06/2017 11:12

Morning all!

Really interesting to hear all your stories. I think it's one of the keys to success, that all of us have our own 'aha' moment. Somehow we need some kind of emotional trigger to help us commit to a weight loss 'journey'.

What's also interesting is reading about people cheating/falling off the wagon, and how you're learning to cope with that. You may not realise that you're coping, especially if you're feeling guilty about it, but actually all of you who have posted here are coping, because you've picked yourselves up and you're getting on with it.

As StuntNun so wisely says, this is really important in terms of learning to make low carbing a part of your everyday lives.

We're all human, which means we all make mistakes or make the wrong choices - sometimes it's out of our control, often we're responsible.

But those choices and mistakes don't matter half as much as what your next actions are!

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styledilemma · 11/06/2017 11:23

But those choices and mistakes don't matter half as much as what your next actions are!

I so agree BIWI what you do next is just as important..
I haven't had a wobble yet, but I know it's coming.

If I want to do this woe long term I know I need to stop my habit of throwing in the towel at the first mishap or hiccup.

PlymouthMaid1 · 11/06/2017 11:42

I have my first flax loaf in oven. If edible I will try if with my broc stilton soup four lunch. What amazes me about this woe is the lack of hunger. I was always hungry before when though I ate normally and not especially low fat. Last night about several. I had my aubergine lasagne and I haven't yet wanted anything today other than a creamy coffee. Unbelievable.