Week 9 Low Carb Bootcamp - the belated Chat thread!!!

[BIWI]

Sorry all.

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Hope everyone's results were good this morning and will try and drop in as soon as I can!

God, I've got such a long way to go still and it's sooooo slow .
Why did I let it all get so out of control in the first place????

Ooh right sayra I will. Green muffins here I come.

Am having weird as fuck dreams at the minute. Epic and realistic.

Had cold lamb and butter for breakfast. Hungry again now, think tuna mayo.

Dinner pork belly and courgettes

You're not being crap mootime, just human!

Carb creep happens to all of us - it's very easy. It doesn't seem like cheating at the time, because each little thing that creeps in is justifiable. ignores Weetabix transgression

Keeping a food diary is a really good thing, and will help identify this.

And water also a good thing!

Thank BIWI.
Weetabix was because DD brought me it as breakfast in bed on Mother's Day and sat and watched me eat it all!

Just woken up with the worst headache and craving for chocolate. Going to go get some lunch because breakfast was a measy dolloup of yoghurt and a pint of water. Hopefully that will curl the craving.

Ah. Well I can understand that, mootime!

Bitchy - take some paracetamol, quickly! No need to suffer.

last nights hazelnut chicken was lovely, sure the DCs will be fooled into thinking it is breaded chicken. Ended up doing just with buttered broccoli, it was very filling, did not need a starch substitute

D - leftover hazelnut chicken, half avo, olive oil, cuppa
L- salad, hm caesar dressing, more hazelnut chicken
D - will be something with italian sausages (lc), DH cooking no idea what else he is planning

another night of next to no sleep last night, could have laid down my head on my desk this morning and slept, desperate for a cup of tea and something sugary, might have to be dark choc ...

Mootime, my solo food only thread has really helped me, wirth a go if you wanted to keep a diary for a bit. :)

Food today a bit scarce as my tummy is still not right.

B- BPC
L- Green smoothie
D- Breast of lamb, cauli and broccoli with butter

Managed some painting even though every time i went up the ladder i got dizzy and thought i would pass out! Didnt though and only 2 walls left. yay.

chester I'm definitely up for doing 11-7 with you, shall we start tomorrow?

Today's food
BPC
Full fat yog with berries
Chicken Caesar salad, no croutons
S nuts
Salmon and egg salad
Two squares dark choc

I felt really hungry today. Maybe I didn't eat enough fat. Have dropped the couple of pounds that I put on last week due to totm. I really feel like the ends in sight and I don't mind being super strict for a bit to see how far I can go. If I lost 2 ibs both weeks I would be lighter than I have been since my first pregnancy. Would be amazing!

Thanks for the advice beryl . I do try to cook ahead a bit. we get 4 portions out of the mousaka. i freeze the leftover 2 portions tho - we don't like eating the same thing within a week of each other. Also if ds is to start eating the same thing as us i will to start making more as he would eat half a portion. Same with shepherds/fish pies etc. I made what i thought would be 4 portions of pork & chorizo stew last night but after ds had some (which he spat out) and DH had a massive helping of seconds there was none left.

I made a batch of porridge yesterday and reheated it for ds this morning and will do tomo. His lunch was a few mouthfuls of a bought chicken mayo sandwich.

I have given ds what we are having for the last 2 days and he hasn't eaten any of it. Last night he had pork stew and bread and butter - and only ate the bread and butter. Tonight was lamb stew and parsnip mash and he refused to even put it near his mouth. . Tomo will be fish pie. i wonder if he will eat that?

He's flaking out at 6pm then waking at 9pm full of beans. DH had to drive him at midnight. He lasted till 6.10 tonight. i'm dreading him waking up as DH works late on tues.

We wont be doing any more days out for a while. Even tho we were poorly we managed to sort loads in the house out this weekend. DH keeps saying 'i can't believe how much better the house looks' umm yes, when there are 2 adults present and doing it it does have an effect. When we are gallivanting all weekend and i am expected to do everything in the week all i can do is the bare essentials, and run myself into the ground at the same time.

This weekend he is out at his hobby all day Sunday and Sat will be a rest day at the local park.

MrsK - please forgive me. I can't think of any other way to say this without it sounding hurtful. But I think you are setting yourself up as a bit of a doormat here.

I've read on another thread that you've posted on about your DH's job, and he is obviously very competent in a highly specialised role. So is it too much to expect that he could sort his own food out?

And with DS, even if he has sensory issues, I think you also have to persevere with food, and not give in to him all the time. If he doesn't eat the food, but eats bread and butter, then he has eaten, hasn't he? Does he still drink milk? Nothing wrong with those as a combination - it means he isn't starving. And I was that you are still feeding him. WTAF?! When you have a baby to feed as well? Why are you doing that to yourself?

My DH isn't allowed seconds. The way I look at it, I shop, plan and cook meals, and part of the planning is making sure there is enough left over to do us a second (and third) night.

If DH is still hungry after dinner, he can have oatcakes and cheese (he isn't low carb) or make himself something else such as an omelette.

BIWI he would sort out his own food. He'd happily buy it out every day. But as i don't want to be bankrupt and would like to buy stuff for the house rather than his stomach i prepare his food. It's my choice because i don't like the alternative.

DS doesn't drink milk. He hasn't since he was 4mo and self weaned of 1 bf a day at 8mo. He wont eat yogurt or cream cheese or cheesy creamy sauces. He will eat hard cheddar tho. I am persevering with ds. I never force him to eat, if he says no to what i have given him i say fine and take it away. I have been feeding him up to now because i worry about him not eating and if i feed him he eats everything and in a short time with no mess and if he feeds himself it is everywhere, he gives up after 3 mouthfuls and it takes ages. I know it's wrong and i haven't fed him for 2 days and i'm not planning to anymore.

I have no friends with dc and have never known any. My mum and mil are the only people i know who have had children and they made out to me i had to keep feeding him and it was normal. It wasn't till we had his 2 year check i realised it wasn't.

charlie sierra sorry for the tardy reply. Thanks for that!
To answer your question - I think there's a few factors at play...firstly was very overweight so had lots to lose...secondly, there's a history of diabetes in my family with middle-age onset..and.over the years have developed a vv starchy carb diet and with a heck of a sweet tooth..but also eating high fat..so probably was approaching the pre-diabetic phase in all likelihood..so BC (lite as BFeeding) is perfectly conducive to my body dropping its excess...plus i love the high fat element so that was not hard to do...I've tinkered with my protein intake too, as it's always been quite high, so tried to drop it a bit...and am religious about the water....
I've also never dieted so think my body has been lulled into happily shedding its fat as it has only known a land of plenty, so to speak!
The thing for me has been breaking the starchy carb/sugar cycle which I have been utterly gripped by for so long. My blood sugar is no doubt reaping the benefits enormously.
Don't know if that helps, because you might be doing all that too...but also it depends where you are starting out from and what your eating pattern was like before I guess?
I've also been doing this on maternity leave so am not often forced into a situation where my food choices are compromised..also have time to cook twice a day if need be, so lucky there.
I do think I'll ultimately stick with this WOE long-term because I do feel I'm at less risk of diabetes this way.
Phew, sorry for that epic ramble!

Hi all, haven't been on for a few days as we have lots going on trying to work out how on earth to choose between three possible options for the house, removing ore tending. First world problem I know to be able to choose your house! But I can feel myself getting stressed and worried about making the wrong choice. M&S quite frankly I am sick of this dragging on for so long!

Anyway, as a result of that I had a real crazy moment of weakness on Sunday and fell into a serving of pudding. I enjoyed it and didn't have any sugar cravings or anything else triggered by it. But of course it has shown up on the scales and I feel really stupid seeing as I have struggled a lot to lose weight on this BC. My only transgression so far and I know I will pay for it!

Grrrr. Anyway, I have made myself a little BC friendly pudding for tonight, to stop me falling into crazy carby twatishness again.

Plus my dinner of pork chops and roast courgette is smelling really good as it is cooking!

MrsK (and I'm sorry, you must think I'm picking on you - I'm really not, honestly, but I just think you need more help and support than you're getting!)

BIWI he would sort out his own food. He'd happily buy it out every day. But as i don't want to be bankrupt and would like to buy stuff for the house rather than his stomach i prepare his food. It's my choice because i don't like the alternative.

Are you telling me that your DH, who has a super specialist role at work, is incapable of understanding this? Really?!

Yes. Really. He doesn't understand deferred gratification very well. I once told him he had spent £30 on 10 coffees over 2 days and he laughed and said 'how could i have, they are only a few quid each' He has dyslexia, ASD and struggles with organising himself. He can't remember what drawers his clothes are in. His specialist role is in a very ASD type area and he is virtually savantish. It is hard to explain to people. No one can truly understand till they meet him. My parents and friends who have met him just BOGGLE.

He sat next to someone called Christopher Thatcher once and then told everyone he'd met Margaret Thatchers son. When people said it couldn't be she only had Mark. He couldn't understand it because this man definitely said his name was Thatcher. People laughed thinking he was joking and he couldn't see why people were laughing at him (he rarely gets the joke in these scenarios). He just couldn't comprehend there may be 2 different families with the name Thatcher.

sass they were alright, I would make them again but they weren't as good as the savoury muffins.

Perhaps if you are doing them for DC you could add some (just a small amount) of sugar to them and next time I will add more almond or maybe desiccated coconut. I think they needed a little more structure.

that is some coffee habit, MrsK. Mind you, soya lattes are my go to treat and probably why I have stalled. I don't have any excuse except there is a cosy coffee shop on the way to work. I started economising with one cup filters to make in the office - they are £3 for ten, and then I add unsweetened almond milk. I do notice when my mood is low or I am tired, the coffee habit creeps in again. It is just too easy/nice/warm/has people. I am an extrovert and I work in quite a quiet environment, sometimes it is nice to have people around.

Just checking in quickly, hello to everyone .
B was flaxseed bread toast and cheese (DD is struggling emotionally at the moment, so a lot of effort is going into getting her out to school, so no time to do anything else)

L was salad, cucumber, roast chicken and Mayo

S two slices of salami

D was vegetable lasagne, white sauce was made with almond milk and soya cream, was not quite brave enough to substitute the flour for soya or almond - don't even know if that would work! I used gluten free flour so some carbs, but no gluten, and a family dinner DC eat too.

MrsK everything you say about DH makes sense to me. I have grown up with ADHD and ds is Aspie. It is very hard for people without experience of this to understand. I had to have a conversation with DS' dad about expectations and boundaries. The conclusion was that ds won't change but he had to change in order to get the best from ds. It is hard. We have to make compromises and sacrifices. But in order to get the best out of them sometimes this is very much worth it.

I ended up taking the painkillers BIWI i was hoping it was dehydration and lack of food but it hit boarderline migraine so took them. Still a bit kooky but a migraine will do that to you. Am planning for a supper tonight due to having eaten so little today.

Yes Bitchy that's exactly it. We spent the first 2 years of our relationship with me determined to change him. Convinced i could 'train' him. I realised we were both miserable. he felt nagged and criticised and that nothing he did was right - and he was right. No matter how many times he tried something he got it wrong. Not things which would benefit me, but things which only he would have benefitted from.

It got to a point where i had to accept this was him. He broke down one day and told me he couldn't go on like this. I agreed. Neither could i. But we also agreed it was unlikely i would ever be able to work in any meaningful way again as i had so much of the domestic responsibilities on me. As well as organising him, his stuff, paperwork, diary etc.

Years ago i used to support a boy with SEN at a school. For a year i spent an hour a day trying to teach him how to tell the time. It was pointless. Everyday was back to the beginning again. I kept telling the SENCO this was cruel. The boy would cry and beg us not to do it. In the end i said i wouldn't do it anymore - that it was akin to trying to teach a child in a wheelchair to walk. You really do have to accept when something is beyond a persons abilities.

MrsK but you still have all the domestic responsibility.

Who is there to look out for you?

I will hold my hands up high and admit I know nothing about ASD.

But surely he can see/can be told how you're suffering/struggling?

Yes, i will always have all the domestic responsibility. I am looking for help at home and dh wants me to get help. He also is doing more - just not cooking! It is hard with so many weekends at mils.

i did a big shop today tho and got loads of meat and veggies in. will batch cook and plan ahead better. AND stop babying ds1 so much