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Low-carb bootcamp

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Week 4 - January Low Carb Bootcamp - KOKO!

648 replies

BIWI · 09/02/2015 07:20

Morning campers!

You know the drill! Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness for your delectation

So week 3 is fairly typically a bit of a bastard. And I'm afraid to have to tell you all that week 4 is sometimes its best friend.

Don't panic if the scales aren't moving, or even if you're seeing a slight increase. This is totally totally normal for this period of time

Keep focused, make sure you're following the rules - particularly eating the fat and drinking the water - and things should get going again shortly.

If you're struggling, post here rather than dive into the biscuit tin!

Good luck everyone

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BIWI · 13/02/2015 21:25

MrsK - you should be drinking at least 3 LITRES of water a day, not 3 pints!

Don't make excuses. Of course you can cook! You're cooking for the children aren't you? Why don't you cook the same things for them that you're cooking for you? I know it's harder when you're not in your own home, but you really need to take advantage of the fact that there are people there who can help you! Get your MIL to take dc2 so that you can cook.

But being tired will, undoubtedly, not be helping. Can you not get your PILs/DH to give you more of a break? A good night's sleep will make the world of difference to how you're feeling.

It sounds like you are pretty stressed out. And I realise that me shouting at you isn't going to help Grin

The best advice I can give you is to relax about it all. Be pleased that you've lost half a stone. Don't beat yourself up about how it's all going, but try and make sure that you're planning your meals as best you can.

But you do need to eat properly, and you really do need to drink the water.

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EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 13/02/2015 21:30

Thanks biwi and Sayra. I'm ok right now but feel very anxious and stressed. I have a headache from trying not to cry.
Today
B- 2 eggs with butter, coffee with cream.
L- salad with avocado, olives and dressing
S - 10 Brazil nuts
D- mashed cauli with butter and grated cheese, fried tofu, boiled green veg with butter
Cream and raspberries
Numbers -
Fat - 232g (wow!)
Carbs - 50g
Protein 47g
Calories 1900

MrsKoala · 13/02/2015 21:31

no. i don't cook for the children. i cook things i can't eat once a week and freeze in portions. ds would never eat what i eat on bc.

i haven't finished drinking my water for today yet.

Mrsstevejones · 13/02/2015 21:36

Tiredness is a killer, be kind to yourself. When my 11mo DS wont be put down and i need to do dinner i pop him in the back sling - he loves it but weighs a tonne so his days in it are numbered. My DD loves washing up so i will stand her at the sink and let her get water everywhere - i consider it floor washing! But it keeps her entertained for ages. That or toy story 3.

You are having a really tough time at the moment and loosing weight is very hard at the best of times - sending hugs.

We have students who stay with us and last year when DS was 3 mo i would have to cook for 7 but i have no idea how i actually managed it.

3 pints isnt a massive amount i think i drink 4 litres a day and a couple of black coffees and a big smoothie - i do pee for britain.

We do go away very often being at my parents over xmas really caused my DC to be upset obvs they loved seeing everyone but with it being so unfamiliar it did upset things, also i found it stressful as i had so little control over everything. Hope they are all tucked up now and you can rest.

Mrsstevejones · 13/02/2015 21:41

I fed my kids what i eat. If we have belly pork for example i just cut off the fat. They love cauli rice and swede mash. They do get usual breakfast - porridge and soup, sandwiches and picnic lunches (cheese, ham, pita and salad veg) at lunch with the occasional fish finger or potato waffle.

MrsKoala · 13/02/2015 21:41

i'm at my parents not mils - dh is at mils. mum was at work all day and my dad can't watch the dc. they have an open plan kitchen and my ds is a nightmare. but tomo mum is about in the avo so i will try to batch cook some stuff for me.

When i am at mils it's worse because she is too weak to be left with dc, dh works all day in the office and fil is, well, no help at all!

EhricLovesTheBhrothers · 13/02/2015 21:43

www.bbcgoodfood.com/recipes/polenta-mushroom-tart

What do you think about this recipe? I'm surprised that polenta is a low carb food.

LexLoofah · 13/02/2015 21:51

mrsk having two little ones is tough and I feel for you. baby crying non stop is not normal has he had A check up recently ? I think you said he wakes up several times in the night is he feeding then ? When I was bf ing I was pretty much dry by the end if the day so expressed when I had more in the morning so I could top up with a bedtime bottle and maybe he needs a wee bit of supper to keep him going. Please don't take this the wrong way and I am sure I not telling you something you don't already know but they should both be going down well before 9pm and sleeping through so possibly ask for strategies and routine advice on parenting or other threads . Perhaps now is not the time with all else you have going on but lack of sleep and down time is a vicious cycle, learned that with my first one made every mistake in the book second one was much easier but it is hard to even think about it when you are so tired I know but it can be done don't despair.

MrsKoala · 13/02/2015 21:57

MrsS ds has sensory issues and will only eat wet soft food and mash. i do make lots of swede mash for us all, but other than that there's not much overlap.

i will try to plan more and buy more fatty meat next week.

i was thinking of adding bacon to the breakfast BIWI, but i am trying to reduce my processed meat - i seem to be living on the stuff atm! how bad is having it everyday? is it better than cheese?

SayraT · 13/02/2015 21:58

Ehric I don't think that polenta can be low carb, can it?

I've just looked and it is 16.3g carb/100g (cooked) and apparently a serving is 200g

LexLoofah · 13/02/2015 21:59

Oh and I eventually realized that running around at 8pm didn't mean ds wasn't yet tired it was actually over tired and meant ' for the love of god someone please put me to bed as I don't know how to do it myself ' the trick is to catch him before it gets to that stage but I know it is easier said than done. Tomorrow is another day. Hope you have a good night

SayraT · 13/02/2015 21:59

Just looked at the recipe and I see that apparently it is 8g carb per serving so not bad as a meal then.

BitchyDoesWitchyThings · 13/02/2015 22:01

You have my sympathy MrsK children with sensory issues and in my case sn issues can be a nightmare in terms of sleep. ds is 10 he is still up serveral times a night despite sleep meds. Sometimes he sleeps through. Last night was not one of those. It is hard, so hard to sort it all out. Especially when there seems to be no end to the tired. It does get better, it may take a while but it does.

BitchyDoesWitchyThings · 13/02/2015 22:02

And just so I am clearly expressing myself, I am not trying to suggest any sn issues with your dc. It might not be clear from my post. My ds has sn and sensory issues which impact sleep.

SayraT · 13/02/2015 22:02

Oh bitchy I took some of your advice today Smile

I set myself a timer and made myself work on my thesis for a couple of hours, then I was allowed to faff for so long then timer again for more thesis Grin

BitchyDoesWitchyThings · 13/02/2015 22:14

Knowing you have a reward sometimes help, even if that reward is just a break. We have a sign somewhere in the house that says "Sooner done, sooner fun" We have a lot of signs. My favourite is still mine - beware the dragon, you are crunchy and good with ketchup. Warns ds when I am in a very bad mood. Grin

May you make swift and productive progress Sayra

Grah0SoontobeaFatty · 13/02/2015 22:31

Ehric don't stop the tears, let them flow, then deep breath, and focus. On what can be done. Crying relives stress and helps formula the now I can help mode. Not sure why you're feeling like this but normally adding stress (no going to cry) to stress make things harder.

From earlier I see you're fed up with food choices. Have you seen these choices LC Vegetarian recipes Do you use many herbs and spices ?

Read in a book the other day :- Tomatoes and Oregano make it Italian,
Tarragon and wine make it French lemon and cinnamon make it Greek, Soy sauce makes it Chinese; Garlic makes it good.
so even if the main ingredients are the same the taste can be easily changed.

Almond flour, psyllium husks, shredded coconut flax seeds can be made into a low car bread. vegetarian guide bread

Flax Seed have Carbs the due to fibre are almost 0 so if anyone plan long term WOE then definitely look into them.

Ehric have you ever tried Jicama?

MrsKoala · 13/02/2015 22:43

Bitchy the paed reckons it's 50/50 whether ds1 has asd. He is too young to diagnose but we will keep an eye on him. recently i had gotten him into a routine of bed by 8pm, but any disruption and it goes out the window. Also he slept for 2 hours yesterday in the car on the way here so he's out of sync (he dropped napping 6 months ago).

DS2 wont sleep anywhere but on me. He has only had 3x 30 min naps today. At night he wakes to feed sometimes but often it's just for a grizzle and a cuddle - he is teething atm so i am hoping it will settle down. i have a thread about him here

My children don't seem to respond or behave like everyone elses and i can't make them sleep.

I combine bf with ff. DS2 is massive. He's 21lb and only 5mo, he's wearing 9-12mo clothes now and they are tight on him. He's off the centile chart which means he's bigger than 99.6 of his peers. Carrying him has fucked my back right up. I have already had 8 knee surgeries and can't carry this much extra weight around. I have a physio app on Monday.

Grah0SoontobeaFatty · 13/02/2015 22:45

mrsk
Wonder if the Kids are they way they are due too sugar or carbs. 1 of mine was an absolute nightmare on the go, non-talking, screaming running around - one day, when we were in Orlando she was 2, we decide to try a no pop sugary foods, milk etc -
Fried Eggs - Bacon for breakfast - oops run out of milk, just water,
Darn it no bread, lettuce ham wraps all round - best day ever we then restricted all her caffeine/sugar till she left home. Except on match day when she would run the whole football match. Some parents complained because she played more than anyone else - coach said everyone plays until they are tired, ??? noo not cheatingGrin

It's a simple test to try.

MrsKoala · 13/02/2015 22:45

Blush I meant to say in that ramble - Lex - i'm planning on starting weaning next week to see if it helps him sleep longer.

MrsKoala · 13/02/2015 22:52

I am wondering about food tolerances with ds1 Grah. When he has something sweet he gets a flushed red line about 3" wide from the right hand corner of his mouth to his right ear - like the joker.

But with his sensory issues i would struggle to feed him without mash pots/parsnip/sweet pot/carrots. He rarely eats cold food - no salad and no fruit. Occasional chicken/egg sandwich. The rest has to be hot food. He loves salmon poached and mash and usually has that a few times a week. Beef casserole. Pork stew. Shepherds pie etc

BitchyDoesWitchyThings · 13/02/2015 23:08

With what you are listing I would say he is pretty ok food wise. Sleep issues are incredibly commons with asd. Ds never slept. Dropped daytime naps at 3 months, never slept more than 2hrs at a time. He has a sleep disorder diagnosis to go with the aspergers. Just be aware that asd kids can be far more sensitive to drops of blood sugar. Ds is an absolute complete and utter bugger if he is hungry. No reasoning at all with him. But as soon as he gets some food in side him and it has change to process through he is sweetness and lights. He eats smaller meals and a lot of snack. Often including in the middle of the night. I don't fight it, i just go with it. So he eats 8am, 12noon, 3:30pm, 5/5:30pm and then 8pm when he is growing. And it has to be bang on normal times, there is no wiggle room. Oh and he is completely banned from artificial colours and high fructose food (corn syrup, grapes, oranges, strawberries etc. Anyone giving them to him gets to babysits for the 48hrs it takes to come out of ds' system. His grandmother only make this mistake once Grin

Good luck with the weaning. It might well help with the sleep, it can help many kids. Unfortunately though kids can be like grown ups and some just don't need as much sleep as others.

Mrsstevejones · 13/02/2015 23:31

I am a bit strict with my DD about sweet stuff, no obvs sugar, no squash, no biscuits, no kiddies yogs that type of thing. I have noticed when she goes to grannys where its squash on tap with biscuits and sweeties her behaviour is def much more hyper and i struggle to get her to bed and she is usually very good. I have tried to discuss it with them but they believe sugar is an essential food group and its not their job to say no. I do think that she may be a bit sensitive to these things as she has never really had them. This is def true of my nephews as well.

All the food you mentioned is the sort of stuff i cook, i just do it lower carb - so carrots and peas on the side rather than in the cottage pie, then top with cauli or swede mash. It took my hubby ages to realise i had swapped normal mash for cauli mash. My DD started eating less but thats because the food has so much more fat in it - it simply filled her up more. I recently cut out morning and afternoon snacks and she hasnt complained.

Having sensory issues must make everything harder, there is quite a lot of research on food and fats and the effect on behaviour - might be worth a look?

Good luck with the weaning with my DS it took a couple of months and now at 11 mo he is starting to regularly sleep thru the night. Now he has a massive appetite.

Good luck

ijustwanttobeme · 13/02/2015 23:36

Have ended the mfp obsession

Yesterday I had:

B: ham, cheese, tomatoes and a coffee with cream. Yes I know it's the same as the day before and the day before that, but it works for me
L: there was a function at work, with some LC foods for a change. So had chicken drumsticks, chicken wings, cheeses, plenty of salad
D: wasn't really hungry after the big lunch, so just picked at some baked ham

Today was even busier, so existed on 3 x coffees till I got home. Not great I know, but was not at usual place of work. Instead, I had three meetings in three separate coffee shops!!

DS and DSS had pizzas and I had what would have been a florentina, but without the carbie base. ie: a couple of eggs, on a chilli and spinach base.

Gcalgske · 14/02/2015 00:12

Can I join the LC group?