Week 3 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Where We Have a Decision to Make!

[BIWI]

Morning all.

Here's the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

So we've finished Bootcamp! Well done all or at least to all those who are still with us

Now you have a decision to make. You can move on to Bootcamp Light, if you wish, which is more relaxed (to a degree). The rules are on the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet - sorry, I don't have time to copy/paste this morning as I have to get off to work about 10 minutes ago.

But essentially it means that you can introduce nuts and berries - in moderation. You no longer have to have three meals a day. If you're not hungry, then it's fine to skip a meal - as long as you don't then dive into a pile of carbs when you get hungry! And you can have alcohol - again, in moderation.

If you're happy with the stricter Bootcamp then by all means stay on that, but please, please, please make sure that your carbs are coming from vegetables and salad. It's important that you get nutrition from these.

Or you can, if you like, do Bootcamp at the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

However

There is also something else you need to prepare for, and that is the dreaded weeks 3 and 4 slowdown!

It's something that lots of people experience. The weight loss suddenly stops, for no apparent reason. If this happens, don't worry and don't panic that you're doing anything wrong (assuming that you're not, of course ), just keep on keeping on, and it will get going again - albeit at a slower rate.

From here on, you should be expecting to see a loss of 1-2lbs a week.

Good luck everyone!

Hi all. Evening out with a friend. Entirely on WOE and only drank water.

polishes halo

Bit worried that as BIWI stated at top of thread, that won't lose thus week. This will be my tst, as I'm prone to giving up as soon as weight remains the same, or goes up. Fingers crossed I dont. If I do, I'll need encouragement from MNers please, to stick with it and keep going.

That's daft!

I've warned you - you know it's nothing to do with you and everything to do with the natural progression of the WOE!

You're prepared for it, so don't let it get you down. Rise above it.

It really is true about the windies. I proved it to myself by going off piste and eating grains over Christmas, it affected me really badly. Obviously some bodies react differently to things but I'm definitely affected by bread etc, I feel like my insides are as inflamed as my outside if that makes any sense, when my psorisis flares it affects my gut and I get constant pain and wind. At the moment I'm not that well due to stress, my skin is flaring, I'm exhausted and my eyes are really affected, but my gut is calm. It's been quite a revalation.

Just in and on phone so just a quick reply to ready yes I have, it's lovely. It is apparently the chef that used to work in the bakehouse in west Linton if you've ever been there?

Bitchy. How often do you eat with your feet? I wouldn't recommend it, especially after eating wheat!

Random . Well done!

Charlie. You really don't need the work stress do you :( Obviously I don't know what this woman does, but I'd be doing without or replacing her. She can do a lot more damage in 4 months, both to your health and relationships and also, your colleague might not come back. You don't want to be stuck with this obnoxious cow.

Ijust. You've had sympathy, wise words and the stick. I think that covers most bases! :) do yourself a favour and don't weigh for a couple of weeks. Enjoy the food, drink lots of water and enjoy the process. It is daft to obsess over a fe wounds either way. BOOTCAMP is 10 weeks, weigh at the end.

Sayra, yep. Sure have. I actually know him really well. Just haven't been to the Mercat yet. The menu is very similar to the menu at the Bakehouse. Before Tony Singh took over obviously..

sayra. Nice to see you are home safely, I can go to bed now. Night love. :)

How was the drive? The show?

chipping

And unmumsnetty hugs for making people cry! Xx

Thanks Trashcan xx

I never eat with my feet, but I do smudge nail varnish if i attempt to move before it is completely 110% dry. Thus if I sit on my bed upstairs to paint my nails, I am not in the kitchen downstairs finding snacks.

Oh bummer MrsK - that'll put a crimp in your weekend :( Hope you either manage to change the weekend or have a lovely time anyway without the abundant sex.

To all wavererers - COME ON NOW! Stop wavering and self-sabotaging! If you have a slip, or gain a lb or 2, it is JUST A MINOR SETBACK - it does NOT mean that you throw in the towel and just bugger up everything you've been working for the last 3 weeks!
Minor setbacks are just that - MINOR. One step back - take two forwards! And then you're a step ahead of where you were before!
Find an alternative "comfort" nibble in the interim, remove all temptation in the form of biscuits/chocolate etc from your vicinity and just think of all the benefits of being keto-converted!

One of which, I agree, is reduced farting. I still do fart a bit during the day, but not first thing in the morning, which I always do when on carbs. I don't eat much in the way of grains generally, apart from rice/rice pasta - but I usually wake up and need to fart straight away when I'm not low-carbing. I think the current windiness is due to the egg-bound situation I'm still in - having to give them a miss for a couple of days just to let things sort themselves out a bit more...

I'm feeling a little disheartened, weighed in and gone up 1lb. I know I haven't gone up 1lb of fat but the scales haven't moved down for a week now. So I've lost 3lb in 2 weeks (2lb on weigh in today but I had the lower weight for several days in. Row)

Yesterday I ate a handful of cashews and about 8 dried cranberries until I realised they had added sugar. Could that have messed up my water levels?

chipping show was really good. Friend was fab! Even if we did think that someone else was her at first!

No snow here anymore but traffic a pain. It took over 2 hours to get there but only 1.5 to get home....I need to do it again tonight. We've got a pole lesson in Glasgow tonight, cannot wait. Luckily we are staying through this evening as friend and I both originally from Glasgow so using it as an excuse.

So how's you all enjoy your snow ?

Only -15c here and been driving on the snow /ice for several months now. but Amazingly we have had very little snow about a foot since November. Getting Cabin Fever, waiting for -25c to defrost the freezer.

Found out by weighing my veg I am blowing the Carbs 1/4 of a cabbage doesn't look much but weighed nearly 305g. I was having it twice a day...36g of Cabbage Carbs

B-2 egg omelette cheese Italian herbs - Bacon 3 rashers 10 mushrooms in coconut and butter.

Lunch Cabbage / ground beef /swede / green pepper /celery /chilies / onion / tomato /corn -- Shredding cabbage makes it look like Cabbage bolognese
Dinner - ditto

made a big pot with heaps of Jalapeno powder & flakes and garlic yum.

Got a reading on the scale of 209 so that's a bmi 29.9 Overweight or a Fatty. Just gotta keep going 7 weeks to the middle of the road Fatty. Happy Days.

So on food allowed list saw sesame oil are we allowed Flax? Seeds meal oil?

Sorry about lowering the tone of the thread with my fart talk , interesting answers though.

Well two things today, I've hit a new low weight for this bootcamp (still a way to go to my lowest from last BC) and AF arrived so I am hoping I will be due a whoosh in a few days and might even get back into the 10s sometime soon. I did feel a bit slimmer yesterday, my gym gear didn't feel as tight, so thinking this 'sticking to the rules' thing might actually be working. Who knew???

ijust, you totally need to be prepared to ride out the week 3 and 4 stall. It doesn't mean you aren't losing fat, it just means your fat is being replaced with water. Do not let it derail you otherwise the last few weeks have been for nothing. Above all, listen to BIWI, she knows stuff

Argh, stayed at friends last night and when we got up this morning she asked if I wanted a yogurt. I was expecting FF (she and OH LC sometimes, he is a weight-lifter) but it was a bloody muller light! I did eat it as I thought that there were no other options and I didn't want to turn it down after saying yes originally.

Then she said "oh, there is an avocado if you want that" argh!!

Never mind, I've got nuts and pork scratchings in my bag

At work now as friend is workaholic....we were hear at 0730, I'm normally having a nice relaxed cup of coffee at this time.

Oh, I had a nice thing said yesterday.

I was standing talking to a colleague and friend passed by then did a double take and came back. She hadn't recognised me "all trim" from behind

Breakfast - 1 scrambled egg with butter, 1 piece smoked salmon with cream cheese. Coffee with cream

Mmmm. imo, this breakfast alone is a reason to stay lc forever

DH is now doing calorie counted lc with my fitness pal, as he keeps eating too much. Told him to persevere, but whatever, its his body (and cheaper for our food budget if he calorie counts )

Still here, koko.
Yesterday was a bit crap on food, no breakfast, time of the month arrived.
Lunch was a little cheese
Dinner was a roast, had friend around, but I stayed LC and had chicken, cauliflower mash, cauliflower and broccoli, made then sausage stuffing but cooked a sausage for me, resisted the roast potatoes, sweet corn and carrots and gravy!!
And resisted the lovely cake, said friend bought!!
Have not weighed all week, which is mammoth for me, I'm weigh before and after a toilet break, type of girl!!
Just hoping to sts this week as I'm week three!

Morning all.

Off to Dublin for the weekend for a fellow MNetter/former Bootcamper's 40th birthday celebrations.

Apparently our restaurants have been chosen on the basis of their low carb offering. But I doubt, somehow, that they will have been chosen on the basis of being alcohol-free

So I'm definitely giving the scales a swerve on Monday and will hope that if I can eat properly then it won't be too bad when I weigh the following week.

To all those who are struggling (whether you're posting or lurking) although I am wielding my big stick a lot at the moment, don't think I don't understand how and how it all feels. Been there, seen it and got several of the t-shirts!

But it's really important that you have a think about why little things can set you off in a spiral of self-destruction. That might sound a bit over-dramatic, but actually diving head-first into chocolate or pizza is destructive behaviour.

However - the person doing it is 'you' - the other 'you' that lives inside your head telling you that those things will make you feel better. Which they won't. You may enjoy that pizza or that chocolate biscuit at the time (although I bet you feel guilty even when you're eating it), but afterwards you won't. Not only will you feel bad about it, when you get on the scales and see the inevitable result, you'll feel doubly bad. And it was 'you' that did that!

We all have an inner carby twat. But we have to find ways to silence it. And let the real 'you' get on with your life.

[slinks back in] Thanks for the advice, don't know what to say, life has been shit and I struggle on, but I will take all the advice to hear and KOKO

So breakfast today was bacon and eggs, lunch will be chicken salad and dinner will be roast chicken with mashed swede and buttered broccoli. I know it's a lot of chicken, but I'll make sure I have plenty of fat with it. I'll also try to drink lots of water and have a good dog walk. Went to dance class last night

I'm sorry to hear that, now. Your plans for today sound perfect though! Especially if you promise me you'll eat the crispy skin off your chicken

And stop the slinking! You have been very brave sharing things on here. Especially knowing there's a big stick waving around ...