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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 3 - Low Carb Bootcamp - Where We Have a Decision to Make!

584 replies

BIWI · 02/02/2015 07:40

Morning all.

Here's the link to the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

So we've finished Bootcamp! Well done all Flowers or at least to all those who are still with us Grin

Now you have a decision to make. You can move on to Bootcamp Light, if you wish, which is more relaxed (to a degree). The rules are on the tabs at the bottom of the spreadsheet - sorry, I don't have time to copy/paste this morning as I have to get off to work about 10 minutes ago.

But essentially it means that you can introduce nuts and berries - in moderation. You no longer have to have three meals a day. If you're not hungry, then it's fine to skip a meal - as long as you don't then dive into a pile of carbs when you get hungry! And you can have alcohol - again, in moderation.

If you're happy with the stricter Bootcamp then by all means stay on that, but please, please, please make sure that your carbs are coming from vegetables and salad. It's important that you get nutrition from these.

Or you can, if you like, do Bootcamp at the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend.

However

There is also something else you need to prepare for, and that is the dreaded weeks 3 and 4 slowdown!

It's something that lots of people experience. The weight loss suddenly stops, for no apparent reason. If this happens, don't worry and don't panic that you're doing anything wrong (assuming that you're not, of course Wink), just keep on keeping on, and it will get going again - albeit at a slower rate.

From here on, you should be expecting to see a loss of 1-2lbs a week.

Good luck everyone!

OP posts:
galbraith · 05/02/2015 16:16

I fucked up yesterday. BADLY. I think the word 'carbicide' fits perfectly. I ate PIZZA. I would give you the long and boring explanation of how this happened but, frankly, if those of you such as MrsK can soldier on through truly dark times, my business trip simply DOES NOT count as an excuse!

What I'm wondering now is... do I now need to re-reset my system by doing a three-day Ubercamp, or will my body gradually reset if I go back to Bootcamp?

BeyondDoesBootcamp · 05/02/2015 16:49

Oh mrs K :( thats such bad luck. Maybe you'll be lucky and it'll only last a day or two? Stay upright, gravity will help Wink

Not a clue sorry gal, though i'd guess the expert advice will be koko?

Dinner - steak, mushrooms, broccoli and cheese, mayo

nowitsenough · 05/02/2015 17:22

I've screwed up again today Sad Sad on the plus (!) side, I've learnt that I'm an emotional eater and also that I shouldn't weigh myself.

I weighed myself this morning and I had put a lb on, despite two really good days. I know, I know .. daily fluctuations etc, but I was really disappointed and it really threw me. I can't explain why I did it, but it just seemed like an impossible task when all I want is something sweet and to not even get the pay off of losing weight.

So I've wallowed in chocolate and biscuits today.

I will now attempt to pick myself back up and get back to it.

sassandfaff · 05/02/2015 17:30

mrsk that is bad luck. I know it bothers some people, but neither myself or dp would be put off. Tmi maybe. Thanks

B/L - 3 boiled eggs. Greek yogurt and mixed spice.

D- probably chicken breast in prosciutto again with asparagus. Or maybe aubergine and halloumi rolls.

Mrsstevejones · 05/02/2015 17:36

Oh gosh MrsK, what bad timing.

B-BPC, 2 mini pepperami,knob of cheese.
S- 1tsp coconut oil, knob of cheese - as i rushed out of door to tide me over picnic - nothing suitable for me, in.
L- Late - a green smoothie
D- Fish pie with roasted broccoli - slightly obsessed with it now, made it less than a week ago. Yum

Students leave in the AM so wont have to serve a massive portion of carbs each night, to tempt me and hubby.

Jumped on the scales and i am now 14st dead on - so i think i am at the weight which i finished May`s bootcamp on. I dug out my size 16s earlier, dont fit them yet but will do soon.

I think i am 2 pounds below this BC start weight but am secretly hoping i am mid whoosh! Cant believe i havent lost more - i know its not a sprint, healthy weight loss, saggy skin etc but still! Pouty face! i had lost half astone by this point last bc.

ILikeToMoveItMoveIt · 05/02/2015 17:38

I don't report in here much. But I'm still keeping on keeping on and my jeans defo feel looser today.

I have finally popped my cauli rice cherry and I loved it, i also enjoyed it raw. I had it with some lamb keema that I made which was amazing. Gorgeous flavour and beautifully greasy in a good way.

LexLoofah · 05/02/2015 17:41

Last night's dinner was not as planned as DH worked late and I had no time to prepare anything while getting the DCs to bed so had 2 hb eggs, piece of jerky, cucumber and iced fruit tea. Was sorely tempted to have some cheese but resisted. Not that hungry after all as was fine with that. In the bad old days would have had a cup of tea and some chocolate instead.

B - cuppy egg, cup of tea
L - smoked mackerel, avocado, salad, 2 hb eggs
D - have a chunk of sirloin defrosting so might be grilled on a stick with veggies or something, rest will be cut into steaks for tea tomorrow, hopefully with leftovers for lunch

Will be meal planning tonight, shopping tomorrow. Must get some meals in the freezer.

MrsKoala · 05/02/2015 17:42

Doesn't bother me much Sass (i'd rather not have it, but it wouldn't stop me) but MrK is really squeamish about blood. So pretty much everything is off the table till it's completely gone :(

Mrsstevejones · 05/02/2015 17:58

Oh NOW you are intent on making your life hard. In the nicest way you need to give this WOE a week, that will enable you to start burning fat and the hunger and cravings do go.

You now know not to weigh yourself - its only a bloody number (says the voice of bitter experience). This WOE of eating has so many other benefits apart from weightloss perhaps you could try and focus on them - my biggest one is never farting and no IBS stuff, i was like a stinky old Labrador!!

I would also bin all the carby rubbish - its no good for anyone. Why dont you bin your scales why you are at it?? or atleast the batteries?

I have been where you are and it takes a massive leap of faith but it really does work, i lost 1st 7lbs on the last bootcamp. You need to give it the time to work, you didnt put the weight on over night and you wont loose it overnight either - how much did you expect to loose in 2 days? 1lb was probably just fluid retention or needing a poo or something.

Dont beat yourself up just dust yourself off and start again. I will be doing this for a long time to come and so i am really seeing this as a way of life rather than a diet and that helps - although i am obvs keen as the next person to be in the next stone bracket.

Chin up and stick with it

CharlieSierra · 05/02/2015 18:06

Stacks you cheered me up this morning with your twirling batons, haven't had time to post until now.

Chipping 4 more long months of obnoxiousness Sad, I don't know how I'll manage tbh, I've already given her 'feedback' and so has our boss, to no avail, the woman is totally devoid of emotional intelligence and filters, it's bad because we are in a field where it matters, a lot, and she is destroying relationships right left and centre.

Re risotto, I tried making kedgeree with cauliflower rice and it was edible, even ok, but it didn't cut the mustard really, and the deliciousness of a risotto is down to it being creamy and unctuous, you just can't replicate that.

MrsK that's crap (bloody Sod's law). Flowers

I've had a sausage and a marmite cheese for breakfast and some soupologie spinach and kale soup with a couple of chicken thighs for lunch. Off to make my gyoza meatballs now which I'll have with cauliflower fried rice done in coconut oil [excited]

FurFoxAke · 05/02/2015 18:08

Well, after taking the cough medicine last night I've had lots of water and not eaten much today tbh.
I haven't really felt like it, but I'm quite glad about this as I really don't want to mess up.
Have has buttery egg, BPC x2 water and cheese with marmite. I'm considering having tuna melt with spinach but I'm not hungry really.

sassandfaff · 05/02/2015 18:37

Quick question. I'm normally a spirit and coke drinker. I don't like it massively strong. Sooooo. Which would suit me best, tonic water or soda water? What's the difference?

LexLoofah · 05/02/2015 19:13

Sass just answered on the questions thread but no to tonic as has sugar or high fructose corn syrup in it

readyforno2 · 05/02/2015 19:52

Thanks Lurking. I STS last week so no change.
Chipping, I've just signed up to dropbox. Haven't actually backed up yet but I know I have to.

Food today

No breakfast
L - soup
D - 1.1 carb pork and herb sausages I found in shit corner in sainsburys with Brussel sprouts.
S - Atkins bar... I know I know. Just felt like I needed a boost, I'm feeling very sorry for myself.

Going out for dinner for a work night out tomorrow. Quite looking forward to it and I'll steer clear of the carbs. Hopefully I can knock this cold thing on the head before then.
SayraT, have you been to the Mercat View yet? That's where we're going. I'm very excited!

Romeyroo · 05/02/2015 20:05

Fatstacks, that was so sweet that your dad remembered about your diet. Honestly, it is a one-off and such a kind thought, I would not worry about it.

So much else going on here, I am not keeping up. I am still doing boot camp as otherwise I don't lose anything, plus I am scared if I do BCL, I will gain.

Too many eggs today because of stressful situation, but all food BC friendly.

B - egg and bacon
L- cucumber, eggs x2, 2 slices of salami, grated cheese
D - eggs x3, cheese, more cucumber, Mayo and some olives,

CBA cooking today. Also had a large soya latte; otherwise I am gradually switching to decaf. Lots of water, peppermint tea. Hope everyone is doing well.

sassandfaff · 05/02/2015 20:07

lex thanks for answering. Unfortunately I had already bought them! I didn't think to look at the ingredients. Doh. I just looked at the carbs 4g ish and presumed it was because of the added lemon.

I won't be drinking them. If it's naf with soda water and a squeeze of my own lemon, I'll just stuck to red wine or dry white.

D- was neither of what I said upthread. I had cougette pasta with pesto and parmesan and a square of 85% choc.

BIWI · 05/02/2015 21:22

nowitsenough

I've screwed up again today sad sad on the plus (!) side, I've learnt that I'm an emotional eater and also that I shouldn't weigh myself.

Good. It's important that you have had this kind of insight into your own psychology.

I weighed myself this morning and I had put a lb on, despite two really good days. I know, I know .. daily fluctuations etc, but I was really disappointed and it really threw me. I can't explain why I did it, but it just seemed like an impossible task when all I want is something sweet and to not even get the pay off of losing weight.

Please, please, please learn from this. If you can't cope with daily weighing, then don't do it!

So I've wallowed in chocolate and biscuits today.

What are you doing? Why did you think that would help? I posted before to you about this kind of thing. It's self-sabotage and has only one outcome. You are now guaranteed to have fucked up, and will see a gain on the scales. Which - given what you've already posted - will set you off again. So it's a vicious cycle.

I'm sorry if this sounds harsh, but none of us can do this for you. If you really want to lose weight, then you really have to address this, and stop this destructive behaviour.

I will now attempt to pick myself back up and get back to it.

'Attempt' = try, which isn't actually 'do'. Don't try or attempt. Do it. Get back on the wagon now.

Get rid of all those biscuits and chocolate - which is what I told you to do before!!!

nowitsenough I'm ranting at you because you are ignoring the advice that you have already been given.

But all of this raises a serious question. Why do you seem to want to sabotage your own efforts? What is the problem here? Why do you not actually want to lose weight? I think you really need to think about this, and ponder on what your real issues are about you, your body and your weight. What is actually stopping you? Why do you want to keep sabotaging what you're doing?

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ChippingInGluggingOn · 05/02/2015 21:29

Fatstacks. I didn't want to seem ungrateful, he's 73 so doesn't follow diets. I was made up that he remembered

Frankly, really, this us what matters. Sadly it's a fact if life that your Dad won't be here forever, LCing will. You'll always remember today, what's 10g of carbs against that? Nothing. Enjoy every minute with him, it's far more important. If you can do it in a low carb way then great, if not, drink water and forget it.

ChippingInGluggingOn · 05/02/2015 21:54

MrsK. :(. How sodding typical :(. Can you change the booking & babysitting? I know you can't change your birthday, but...

Galbraith. Sometimes life does just get in the way. I posted about my own hassle with dinner last night too. There are two places we could have gone to eat, the chef was off ill at our place of choice, so we went to the other place. The menu was crap for me, I made the best choice possible. I could have 'not eaten', but my friend has food issues and I decided her need for me to not trigger those was greater than my need to worry about what was in the zucchini dish or the cauliflower cheese. Drink water, move on.

Nowisnotenough :(. Oh dear. Still, lesson learned?? Carbs don't help do they? They're those nasty little 'false friends'.

Sass. Joining you on the 'Don't mind' bench, plus the 'it helps loads with period pain' cheerleading squad! But I'd rather be at home than messing up hotel sheets and it's not sexy (well, not IMHO).

MrsSJ. You certainly are feeling happier and feistier today Grin

charlie. Can they not just get rid of her??

That's my fear with the Cauli Risotto. But I'm waiting to be proven wrong Grin

CharlieSierra · 05/02/2015 22:15

my biggest one is never farting and no IBS stuff this is so true!!

Chipping not worth it now, just damage limitation I reckon.

My cauliflower 'rice' is turning out so much better now someone said to microwave it first. It really makes it so much nicer and even gets crispy bits when fried with other chopped up veggies. Much better dinner tonight and I've got meatballs for lunch tomorrow too. I think I need to stop trying to eat things I don't really like, mashed swede might be off the menu!

ChippingInGluggingOn · 05/02/2015 22:20

Oh, but mashed swede is lovely. You just have to boil it until it falls apart when you put a fork into it. It's gopping under cooked. I've never tried it in the microwave.

16 weeks sounds better than 4 months.

ChesterDrawers · 05/02/2015 22:21

Seriously, how are you lot not burping and farting? I have noticed no difference at all. Not that I do it lots, of course, you understand... I'm just seeing this commented on a fair bit but it seems to be passing me by.

ChippingInGluggingOn · 05/02/2015 22:27

ChesterGrin. I'm not prone to either, low carbing or not. The only time I'm ever better downwind is after eating Quorn sausages. I'd have thought all the meat & veg would be making them all windy! perhaps they're telling porkies

ijustwanttobeme · 05/02/2015 22:42

I've been struggling this week, as have been craving something sweet.

So, yesterday I had a tablespoon of crunchy peanut butter. Carbs not great but it soothed the urge.

Today, had a coffee for breakfast.

It was a bit hectic at work, due to bigwigs coming in. No snacking allowed and lunch wasn't till they'd gone- almost 2pm!

Went to the greasy spoon and had a ham and cheese omelette with salad.

Dinner was a fry up courtesy of DP (who didn't know I'd already had eggs!)

Bit worried that as BIWI stated at top of thread, that won't lose thus week. This will be my tst, as I'm prone to giving up as soon as weight remains the same, or goes up. Fingers crossed I dont. If I do, I'll need encouragement from MNers please, to stick with it and keep going.

BitchyDoesWitchyThings · 05/02/2015 22:56

My stomach is throwing a hissy fit after yesterday. And very topically I have farts ds would be proud of so I can confirm that I consumed wheat yesterday. Blush

Did really well with the water, not so great on the eating. Picked throughout the day and didn't have a proper lunch as a result and have continued picking after tea. I suspect it is emotional in source so I need to be firm with myself. In the end I painted my nails (hand and toes) just to stop me from being able to pick Blush

If you are so worried about derailing yourself if you weigh and have sts Ijust could you skip the weigh in? It is not worth weighing if you are going to derail yourself.