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Low-carb bootcamp

Join discussions about low-carb bootcamp plans, meals and progress. Consider speaking to a medical professional before starting any diet.

Week 1 - May Low Carb Bootcamp - It all starts here!

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BIWI · 05/05/2014 08:54

Morning campers!

Sorry for the late start. But what with it being the Bank Holiday and everything, I didn't have to set my alarm.

Anyway, you can now sign into the weight tracker

And a quick reminder of the rules:

You aren't allowed to eat:

potatoes
pasta
rice/noodles
bread
sugar
flour

And for the first two weeks you can't eat fruit or drink alcohol

The idea behind Bootcamp is that whilst it should be strict (and therefore, hopefully, work!) that it should also be easy - therefore there is no weighing or counting of anything. Just ten rules that you need to follow.

And here are the rules of Bootcamp (the first two weeks)

1.Eat three, proper meals a day.

You must eat breakfast. It doesn’t have to be a lot, but you must have something. For the rest of the day, if you’re eating enough food and you are in ketosis then you shouldn’t be hungry. But if you are hungry, eat something. (Hard boiled eggs make a great snack)

2.Avoid processed food,

and focus on pure, natural protein as the basis for your meals – meat/fish/eggs. Things like sausages, ham, bacon, pre-prepared burgers etc should be avoided as much as possible. Avoid foods marketed as low carb, e.g. Atkins Daybreak bars.

3.Maximise your fat intake.

Fry in butter, add butter to vegetables, eat salad with a home-made vinaigrette dressing (not made with balsamic vinegar though), add mayonnaise where you can (just check the carb count on your mayo first). Eat fattier cuts of meat – e.g. pork belly, roast chicken with the skin on and/or eat the fat off your lamb chops. Absolutely no low fat/light foods of any kind!

4.Make sure you are eating vegetables and salads with your food

This is where your carbs should come from. But choose only those vegetables that are on the allowed list. You don’t have to weigh/count carbs – this is one of the great joys of this WOE (way of eating), but if you’re new to low carbing it can be helpful to weigh your portions of veg in the early days, just so that you know how many carbs are in the sort of portions that you like to eat

5.Minimal dairy

(Apart from butter, which is unlimited). If you are drinking tea/coffee with milk or cream, try to restrict yourself to max 2 cups per day. You may eat cheese, but only in small amounts.

6.You must drink a minimum of 2 litres of water per day.

"The more weight you have to lose, the more water you should drink. This is from www.low-carbdiet.co.uk/. Water is essential to weight loss for those who eat low-carb. The minimum consumed in a day should be:

Your Weight----Litres
140lbs-----2.5
160lbs-----3.0
180lbs-----3.0
200lbs-----3.5
220lbs-----3.5
240lbs-----4.0
260lbs-----4.5
280lbs-----4.5
300lbs-----5.0
320lbs-----5.5
340lbs-----5.5
360lbs-----6.0
380lbs-----6.5
400lbs-----6.5

High levels of ketones in the blood stream can lead to a reduction in ketone production, therefore being well hydrated could aid in keeping the levels low and ketone production ongoing. Consuming enough water can have many other positive side effects: aids your kidneys with the processing of protein, reduces the retention of water, helps with preventing constipation, and reduces the levels of ketones released by your breath, which in-turn will reduce breath odour.

However, drinking a lot of water can mean that you also need to keep an eye on your electrolyte balance. You need to make sure that you are consuming sufficient sodium and potassium. On a low carb diet we can eat more salt, so make sure that you are cooking with salt and adding salt to food, if you like it. Good, low carb, sources of potassium are spinach (raw), avocado, mushrooms, courgettes and asparagus, as well as salmon and yoghurt.

7. No alcohol

Alcohol is the easiest source of fuel for the body to burn, so it will always use this first before it starts to burn any fat - which is why you need to restrict it, especially in the first two weeks of Bootcamp, when we are encouraging the body to stop using carbs for its source of fuel and turn to fat-burning instead. If you really can't do this - at least try and restrict it to the weekend. Vodka with soda is the best thing to drink. Or Champagne, red wine or dry white wine.

8. No fruit.

Really. Seriously. Honestly. None at all. Zilch. Nada. After Bootcamp you will be able to introduce certain fruits, but at this stage fruit is simply too carby. We are also trying to break the addiction to sweet things, so cutting fruit out is part of this process. If you are getting all your carbs from vegetables and salad, you will be getting all the nutrients and fibre that you need.

9. No nuts/seeds.

In Bootcamp Light these are a great snack, but they can very quickly add a whole load of carbs to your day, so they are best avoided during Bootcamp

10. No sugar or artificial sweeteners.

Sugar is an obvious ‘no no’, but artificial sweeteners are also an issue. One of the aims of this way of eating is to eat pure and natural foods, so including sweeteners is not recommended. Some people find that artificial sweeteners can impede their weight loss, and there is some suggestion that your body can respond to sweeteners as if they were sugar, by releasing more insulin - and therefore laying down fat.

Given that the aim of Bootcamp is to help us lose our sweet tooth and addiction to sweet things, then it is a good idea to avoid sweeteners altogether in this first two weeks.

You might find it useful to print these rules out and stick them on the fridge, or somewhere handy.

And, although I'm not sure what's happening about the spreadsheet this time, have a look at the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness at the tabs on the bottom, there is loads of useful information

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PeonyStick · 08/05/2014 13:19

crabby Thanks Thanks Thanks

this is tonights mission. sayra I will report back.

CQ I would personally avoid HIT work in this 2 weeks, until the energy has returned, it can just shoot your heart rate up too high until your have ketoadapted... listen to me talking lowcarb shizzle like I know what I am talking about just in my experience

ArtiBartfast · 08/05/2014 13:32

I’v just been sitting catching up with the thread and salivating at all the lovely things to eat. Minus the headaches, gurgling stomach and pissing like a horse, and with me stuffing my face, this really doesn’t feel like a diet.
Also the scales are freaking me out, i know mine are crap aren’t very accurate, but wow Grin

Training last night was better / stronger and i’ve just done a big run in the rain. Feel a bit ruff at the moment but think its all starting to level out (crosses fingers)

B. Cold Pork chop and ff yogurt - coffee
L. Avocado, salad, 2 boiled eggs, olives, olive oil & mayo - coffee
D. Roast chicken or roast veg (maybe both)
S. Olives
In the immortal words of Mr Creosote:
“Look - I couldn't eat another thing. I'm absolutely stuffed. Bugger off.”

PseudoBadger · 08/05/2014 13:35

How about some wafer thin celeriac Arti :o

LittleMissDisorganized · 08/05/2014 13:42

Crikey I can't keep up!!

Keep going those with carb flu. petals you sound particularly unwell and struggly, you are doing great given you are sleep deprived and looking after your little ones. Don't beat yourself up, just try and keep going. It's worth remembering that yogurt is quite a bit higher in carbs than eggs at breakfast. I felt sick for a couple of weeks but the brain fog cleared sooner than that, so jumping it really should get better soon

Crabby you're a star as ever, that duck sounds great.

IWill it's not that terrible, don't panic

Well, I did have my toenail pulled off under local yesterday, after a bad night I feel ok today. I feel like I'm eating beyond when I'm full, if it's low carb. It's not how I was when I first started and it's emotional eating I think. I'm quite tense waiting regarding work... but I know this isn't the way to deal with it. Hmmm....

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brodyboo · 08/05/2014 13:46

So managed to get weighed, bit more to lose than I thought 202lbs...eek! I am also 2 inches shorter than I thought I was Confused !

So B. Ff yog and coconut cream, mashed egg and celery.

L. Chicken salad with olive oil dressing and parmasan

D. Steak, garlic mushrooms and roasted veg.
Shit loads of water drunk and passed! Had a hairy moment out with dogs earlier, think I'll have to stay close to a toilet the next few days. Could someone pretty please add me to spread sheet, thanks.

BIWI · 08/05/2014 14:12

Right. Here comes a super Crabby post - sorry to do it all in one go but time to access the internet is a bit limited at the moment!

QueenQueenie - if you're very close to your target, one thing to think about is the size of your portions, aka being careful about your calories. Have a think about how much dairy you're eating, and check for 'carb creep' - i.e. are you really keeping your carbs as low as you could do?

pingufan you can roast all of those, but I'd allow a little bit more time for the swede to cook - so do that for 15 minutes before you add the leeks and courgettes

Hissy eating fat doesn't make you fat! Eating carbs, however, does - it's the carbs that provoke the insulin release, which ultimately lays down fat in the body

lowcarbliil - 300ml double cream + 250g grated mature cheddar cheese, heat together in the microwave until cheese is melted. Job done!

NeverHadANickname - yes, your meals are dairy-heavy (although I get you that you're feeling rough - hope you feel better soon) but there's also not much veg/salad going on in them! That's where your carbs should be coming from

petalsandstars Eating fat is not wrong! It's just that we've been fed the wrong information for the last 30 years. have a read of this

monkeyfacegrace WHY ARE YOU EATING JELLY AND DRINKING PEPSI MAX? These are not allowed on Bootcamp! Full of artificial sweeteners and all manner of worrying things! I'd also be careful about that flaxseed pizza as it can impede weight loss for some people

ImSoOverIt brilliant!

antimatter Disaster for me yesterday, just ate too much of stewed veg I made sad.
That was cabbage, courgette ad leek. had they been cooked less they would have less carbs in easily accessible form.
So folks - either nearly raw or don't bother as it is going to spoil your day...

I really don't see why this was a problem? They are all relatively low carb so unless you ate a massive bucket-full (unlikely! Grin) then it's hardly a disaster. Why do you think it is?

feesh the best thing you can do if your DH is being so rude unsupportive is to make sure you've done enough reading so that you can argue convincingly against him. Atkins didn't die of a heart attack - he slipped on the ice and banged his head. The best book - in the sense that it's easy to read and isn't just about low carbing, so can seem a bit more objective, is "Escape the Diet Trap" by Dr John Briffa. It's really, really worth getting hold of. And re your friend - cooking duck is fine! It's a perfect low carb food. But if she really is a good friend, why don't you just tell her that you're low carbing, and explain what you can/can't eat? I'm sure she will understand.

notamonkeysuncle the tiredness should pass soon. But make sure you're eating plenty of fat, as well as the electrolytes - sodium, magnesium and potassium - so salmon, avocado, spinach, full fat natural yoghurt

Arti - come on then, tell us what the scales told you!

CQ I'm not sure you'll collapse, but I'd be prepared to take it easy/accept a slower time.

As a general rule of thumb, with carb flu, if you're feeling really, really grotty and none of things suggested have worked, then eat something a little bit more carby - a slice of wholemeal toast, for example. But please don't eat sugar/sweets/chocolate/cake - you will really undo all the good work you have done so far

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Lambzig · 08/05/2014 14:38

I don't seem to be getting carb flu, so perhaps I am doing it wrong. I have lost 3lb in 3 days so it's going ok, but I am crazed for sugar, absolutely crazed.

B. Eggs and gammon
L cabbage, spinach and bacon soup
D keema saag made with shallots

Lambzig · 08/05/2014 14:38

Oh what I wanted to ask was about cholesterol. Does this diet raise cholesterol levels?

antimatter · 08/05/2014 14:43

I don't know if too much or still the carbs I had on Sunday were catching up with me but didn't last any weight since Monday, but I am not going to give up Grin as I am sick of my obesity!
I went on low carbing from Friday, lost 5 pounds in first 2 days then had a dinner at my in-laws which was very carby, so I guess still ridding of it all

antimatter · 08/05/2014 14:46

Lambzig carbinating (or low carbing) helps to reduce cholesterol

PeonyStick · 08/05/2014 15:11

lambzig definately not - my cholesterol has gone down.....

LittleMissDisorganized · 08/05/2014 15:19

Lambzig if you're interested in cholesterol and this WOE, I really recommend Dr Malcolm Kendrick's "The Great Cholesterol Con". It's quite sciency, but accessible, and very evidence based, and this WOE does not raise cholesterol OR predispose to heart disease and stroke, in my, and his opinion.

Your GP may say different. The brainwashing of fat making you fat is present throughout the medical profession, including in bariatric clinics.

pregnantpause and feesh that does sound really tough, to get that from what should be your great supporter. My DH listened to me read the summaries at the end of the chapters of the Dr Briffa book that BIWI recommended... and then he's seen with his eyes the weight I've lost. I think that's what has convinced him - I'm 23lb down since January and I even manage to eat out without wobbling (sometimes) - if you stick with this you will have evidence of your own to convince him with. But if he will read Dr Briffa that would make a huge difference. We are all so conditioned, aren't we? I hope it doesn't make either of you feel discouraged, you'll get plenty of encouragement here but RL does make a difference.

StringBeanJean I third, or fourth, or whatever it is, the groclock. I too had a 5am waker on my own, it was awful... I felt unhuman. I got it for DD's 3rd birthday... wish I'd got it sooner!!

spamm · 08/05/2014 15:43

OK - brief update before I have to run.

I need to focus on Water! Water! Water! I think I was generally on track yesterday with everything, but I probably only did 2Ls of water, so I am working that today.

So far today:
B: Coffee with cream, a turkey sausage and a cheese stick - Thursday is a problem, as DS has to be at school 30 mins early to get to Spanish Club
L: Salad is my plan with lots of nice stuff
D: Taco bake, if I can get somewhere to buy the leeks on the way home

Keep up the good work everybody. I was 4 lbs down the morning, but not counting my chickens, etc... until Monday's weigh in!

StuntNun · 08/05/2014 16:03

Lambzig generally speaking, switching from a conventional diet to a LCHF diet slightly raises your HDL (the one you want to be high), slightly raises your LDL (the one you want to be low), and significantly lowers your triglycerides (also one you want to be low). BUT it appears that while your LDL level may go up, your LDL type changes from small dense LDL to large buoyant LDL. Confusingly only the small dense LDL is linked with heart disease whereas the large buoyant LDL is either benign or may even protect against heart disease.

Lambzig · 08/05/2014 16:08

Thanks for the explanations. I have mine monitored every six months as part of monitoring a long term health issue. It's always a bit high, so I will just have to see what this diet does. My consultant didn't seem to mind me low carbing.

CockBollocks · 08/05/2014 16:13

Why am I absolutely ravenous today? I'm in day twelve, have been fine until yesterday.

Starving Marvin!!!

FelixFelix · 08/05/2014 16:20

This thread is moving far too fast!!

I'm feeling good. The nice unbloated feeling has returned and I have more energy than usual.

B - yoghurt with double cream and cinnamon
L - salad with olives, avocado and lovely double Gloucester & chive cheese
D - having an early dinner today at about 5ish as I have a driving lesson at 6-8 then off to stay with my parents from tonight until Sunday. Making fish florentine from the recipe thread. Had it a few weeks ago and it was delicious! Served with broccoli and asparagus Smile

CQ · 08/05/2014 16:30

Help - can anyone send me a link to the Recipe thread? I need some inspiration.

Is is at the bottom of the spreadsheet or have I missed something? Tried looking back through LC Bootcamp threads but it's not jumping out at me Confused

BIWI · 08/05/2014 16:46

here

click 'watch this thread' and you'll always have it to hand!

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StuntNun · 08/05/2014 16:55

Lambzig I have before and after lipid profiles and mine did exactly what was expected: HDL up about 0.3, LDL up about 0.3 (total 3.92), trigs dropped drastically to 0.2 but I'm taking a fish oil supplement as well as low carbing so that's probably why. It would be nice to know whether my LDL is large and buoyant or not but I'm not willing to fork out for a private test so I'm just going to work on the assumption that it is seeing as all my other levels and ratios are fine.

CQ · 08/05/2014 17:05

Thanks BIWI.

Large shopping list coming up.

olivesnutsandcheese · 08/05/2014 17:11

afternoon bootcampers

today's menu
b: a green tea and cooked chicken mixed with Maille mayo (1.2g c per 100g) a tsp pesto and a dollop of cream... yum

l: nothing, was still too satiated from brekkie plus out shopping with DS so just necked mineral water

s: broccoli soup when I got home plus some naice ham and cheese reduced from sainsburys deli counter.

d: either chicken salad or juillened courgette with ham/garlic/mushrooms and cream

If any of you losers go past a sainsburys they inexplicably have their taste the difference pastrami on offer at £1 per pack instead of £3.29 for a short while Grin

hope those suffering carb flu feel better soon. If you need to up your potassium then Lo-salt is also a good source.

antimatter · 08/05/2014 17:54

Pastrami is LUSH and at that pric mens me visiting Saisbo tonight Grin

NeverHadANickname · 08/05/2014 17:55

B ff yog with cream and coconut cream,.AMAZING
D chicken mayo and olives
T belly pork with loads of cauli and a cup of oxo

I'll try to eat more veg, I normally eat more fruit than veg so adjusting is hard. Had a generally good day though.

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