Maintaining weight & cheaters confessional

[EvaTheOptimist]

Thanks to BIWI's bootcamp I've lost loads of weight. I'm determined not to put it all back on. So I am now consciously trying to maintain my new weight.

I finished the last bootcamp on 150.8lb. My aim is to stay below 11 stone (154lb). Since bootcamp I have weighed between 149lb and 151.6lb. I think this roughly counts as maintaining!

My plan or experiment is to see whether basically eating bootcamp style, but with 3-4 off-piste moments per week (eg chocolate, toast, special treat meal etc) will do the trick of maintaining.

Post here to share your experience of maintaining the low carb way.

Also feel free to confess any cheating here, offload and wail in a safe space!!

snigger... milky kyphosis! yep that's exactly what it is. Ah bollocks to it, I've always known that bit wasn't right. I have been having ongoing investigations done because I have hypermobility syndrome, and funny enough kyphosis runs in my mums family. It doesn't sound massively attractive though! When I was seeing the rheumatologist I also had to tell her I was born with reversible talipes. Talipes is another way of saying club foot! So as I was discussing it with dp, I was like, 'yeah basically I'm from a family of club footed hunchbacks'

The stoop is really entrenched, and my hypermobility means that I overextend just beneath it, causing the terrible seize ups, but I am hoping to correct it with exercise, and the physio promised he would try and loosen me up manually next appointment. Oh it would be soooo great to have a proffessional massaging person deal with me stiff parts. Fnarr

The thing is, I'm pragmatic about it - one chunters along 'making do' and basically not acknowledging all the foibles of the wonderful body. When stock is taken, there's damage assessments that have gone by the wayside. I'm so glad it's in my capabilities to get on and sort this out now, as opposed to twenty years down the line when I'm buckled and bent double!

Trash does that physio know what he's getting himself into here?!

Wow I've just had a read of the main bootcamp thread, all about talking or not talking about cheating. I'm now feeling a bit awkward about polluting the low carb bootcamp area of the site with this thread. On the other hand presumably you're all here voluntarily! I really hope anything I've written doesn't make it harder for you Trash as you have particularly said how it does, on the other thread.

Not at all!!! This is a cheat specific thread (amongst many other topics ) My ire was raised by the seemingly endless bastard confessions, and justifications on the main thread, which BIWI specifically asked us not to do. None of us did I don't think, but there are some fuckers who would seemingly completely ignore it and just blab on about their cheating, like this is fucking slimming world or some shit diet club. It's bootcamp you daft bastards! If you want to do cheating, piss off to some other section that isn't strict. I had to tone down my truest ranting - although I have now splurged it here

I don't actually think it's any easier for some people, so that narked me as well. We all have to try our fucking hardest. And then, having to listen to the shit about having gained/sts... and the 'oh so I'll be extra good/really strict tomorrow' wtf? be strict for the ten weeks, or shut the fuck up about it on the main thread, or start another thread dealing with it there, or ftfo.

Fucks sake. I think I need a t-shirt saying 'kill all weakeners'

New job overwhelming -and feel totally out of my depth at mo .
Am getting home from work and going sofa fort and gin ....
Will hopefully get some sense of humanity back at the weekend
Puppy hopefully coming tomorrow ......
Love to all - can't face mad irritating fuckers on main thread yet ..... No offence to anyone here .

Pah hahahaha! Love it. Best ever shit shout .... God is everyone all right after my supernova rant. I'm normal again now - promise

So much to read on these two threads .... Will super post later - but just got to say trashy that wank water made me snort tea down my nose .
Have slept for 14 hours and have woken feeling shattered .... Need to have a restorative weekend before next week starts !

Urghhhh! first bender since xmas and took 'special water' to a do hotel so rip off bar prices and must've drank 5 large gins in less than 3 hours had to wait for til it was dark enough to decant SW into a glass DH has just made me a lovely fry up with a side of solphadeine. Years ago I'd have rolled in at 4am and done the same tonight getting old sucks

Eva well done on the compliment from the school gate mafiosa mum and don't apologise for this thread. I've had the week from hell and only had time to skim the other thread but like others I'm tempted to write either do it or fuck off but can't be arsed which is a shame for the thread because we were all so supportive and not fair on BIWI and Stunt who are doing a fantastic job

Sayra and Trashy I'll have to watch you gallop off from a distance as I'm allergic to horses and within minutes of coming into contact with them produce a gallon of snot and look like I've done 10 rounds with Mike Tyson - first discovered after a romantic sunset horse-drawn carriage ride turned into an epic fail and buggered up the next 3 days of a week long holiday.

BTW I'm another bad backer, not helped by tottering round in high heels I'm a midget without them but due to fused/degenerating lower vertebrae I've got fantastic posture so when anyone says anything I say its thanks to my convent school education and don't mention my knackered back

Peony it will get easier. I remember phoning my old, old boss asking for my job back after a horrendous first day when I drove home crying because I felt totally out of my depth. After telling me to fuck off she said something thats stuck with me ever since - they wouldn't have given you the job if they didn't think you were capable and it wouldn't be a promotion if you weren't challenged so embrace the butterflies, remember to smile and if all else fails make a brew for everyone and within 6 weeks you'll have forgotten about us and feel like you've been there forever and besides no-one likes a cocky nowitall who comes in and thinks they rule the roost she was right.

crabby your gorgeous recipes got me through the last BC and are one of the reasons I didn't lose much and I have to resist the urge to make your fantastically moreish cauli cheese one spoonful is never enough. Thanks to your blog I'm now a scratch cooker and the house is almost a jar-free zone

Notso at you skulking around at your do and surreptitiously slurping your 'special water'! That soooo would have been me...

I can't tell you how much your post my recipes cheered me up, so thank you!! I do think that this.......

Ok I was typing this heartfelt thing and then DP was flicking throughthe channels and found an intense am drunk thing about Fame. I found myself screaming
"IT'S BRUNO, OH MY GOD IT'S JULIE, OH IT'S FAME!!"

So now I must go an relive my very distant youth.

Trash sorry to make you re-live expand on your rant. Ironically reading all the "stop cheating FFS" stuff actually had a good effect on me and got me to pull my socks up. And stiffen my resolve in the weak moments.

Peony DO NOT show my kids that sofa fort! They used to do stuff like that with our old sofa. It drove me mental. And helped destroy the sofa. Hey - enjoy the safety of the weekend away from the new job. Starting is always a really big deal, there's so much to know.

Today, I am 151.8lb. Which seems miraculous, and definitely in the Maintaining Zone (1lb up on my end-of-bootcamp weight). I can retain a shred of credibility at this maintaining lark, despite it not yet really working out the way I planned (ie much less self-control than hoped).

Crabby and Minny sorry that you too have back issues - they are a real bastard aren't they! You poor things!

Crabby I also adored your recipes and think you are really on to something with the step by step gorgeous photos and the timing chart innovation. (I sometimes think of those timing charts when I'm doing my "oh god it all needs to be simultaneously served up at once and the whole process takes forever" moments, thinking, "that's why Crabby mashes her swede early and keeps it warm"... not that I've got organised enough yet to follow your example.)

I'd also like to say that Stunt's sciencey posts on the main thread have been awesome. I'm sorry I haven't posted there, I've managed to read it once in the last fortnight (though that was a long read)- I just feel I'm in a slightly different mental zone, and by the time I got to the end, felt I had nothing to add.

PS Crabby I pretty much missed the Fame shows, but read the book as a teenager, which was AN EYE-OPENER so I feel a similarly nostalgic response!

Right - I am officially 'out' of my sofa fort and the gin bottle is not coming out this week .
Great advice gang - notso
I have done a great deal of catch up reading and I am enjoying a total day off with the family today apart from secret MNing on the phone while they are all in the pool

Puppy news .
Well the chap we had agreed to have a pup from was just getting dodgier and more odd . There were a million excuses why we couldn't meet the mother , lots of failed appts to see the pups and now 4 changes of appt to collect him .
Today he texts to say he will ' drop the pup off' at 6am tomorrow !! This is the final straw - we have not met mother , not the pups , seen hip scores , infact we know nothing . SO we have decided to start again .

By chance we looked up a previous Stud dog we had been watching and only didn't have one of his because they all came out black .... He has had another litter - 5 weeks old , 1 red dog left and they only live in Frome ( about an hour away) . The owner heard all my outpourings and has reserved him and invited us to lunch with all the DC to meet all the pups and the mother etc .... We will be £700 worse off - But I sense you get what you pay for in this ..... The other pup was free, but a world of pain .

So .... There we are . That's me . I am 154 pounds still - bang on - despite a diet of gin in the evenings , no water , nothing nutritious at all for a week .... This maintenance stuff is hard work ! Will do better this week !

Still can't face the main thread - it's a very odd atmosphere on there .

trashy for lovely pm - cheered me right up

I agree about the main thread I've been on but not very much and just replied today. I don't feel I 'know' this group as well as I got to know you lot!

I wish I could take my sofa cushions off so I could make a fort! peony it really sounds like you've made the right decision about puppy. Any person selling a puppy who doesn't allow buyers to see mother etc is probably not the person you want to buy from. Hope this new pup is gorgeous and you like him.

OH much better and I can go back to work on Monday, thank God, I'm no good looking after people. Probably just as well I don't want kids!

Just quick! You're wise as a mo fo not to take the pup peony

We are ruined from copious drinking last night. Will check in properly when not still pissed.

eva I loved that little rant opportunity

Love to all

Porn ....,,
5 weeks . Deposit paid . Collect on 28th June . Saw mum , met Dad , saw papers , can visit as many times as we like . DEEP relief ..
sayra think I was in my fort when your OH was poorly - so sorry to hear about it and glad he is on the mend now ..... Think OH's much much worse than DC when ill

trashy

Puppies! Horses! This thread is where it's at!

Feeling so chuffed with myself having survived my party last night. I made it through just drinking sparkling water. I totally thought of all of you being super strict and it helped so much. My legs have holes appearing all over them (ok dimples) and it's so exciting.

I have just been reading the weight loss chat and the Alizonne section, and fuck me there are some hideous diets out there. They seem to be making up milkshake sachet things the flavour of pizza and porridge and spending £220 for the privilege. It just makes me cringe. I'm sure doing that you lose lots of weight but it's just all going to go back on, isn't it? It's enough to make me want to stroke my nice pork belly sitting in my freezer.

Sayra hooray for your OH recovering well from the OP!

Peony cute cute puppy! And a high-five for spectacular spot-on maintaining in the face of gin and work-stress. This is what we like. Magic Maintaining!

Lowcarb you are right - what horrors. I couldn't do the milkshake things - I'd be instantly thinking, right where's the food? I've eaten more than 10 different types of vegetable today (includes salads and a ratatouille so isn't quite as odd as it sounds) as well as honest eggs, butter, fish, cheese, mayonnaise etc. Its got to be the healthiest and real-est diet.

Thanks to Trash's rant powers spurring me on, I have been properly low-carb all weekend (including Friday). This has included strawberries which are absolutely delicious at the moment.

Crabby I was wondering the other day, how did your DD's legs heal in the end?

Loving 'SuperRant'™ and have just found ™ on the phone
crabby love love your recipes .... From simple ( remember how my life was transformed by courgetti !)to the a bomb has gone off in the kitchen type recipes . I also want to know if you ever saw again the sexy beast you rear ended

Well this thread is a bit of an eye opener....some of us who have had planned events during the 10week boot camp or just a social life that they try and work around are being shouted at and called daft fuckers and bastards for going off the straight and narrow and sharing on the main thread and yet the ranter is herself 'ruined from copious drinking'....sorry but I find it all a little two faced. After all it is only 10 weeks to commit to so why haven't you trash?

Pingu I'm sorry for this thread upsetting you. Alcohol is allowed on bootcamp light?

Just out of interest are the buns low carb?

please come back to the main thread all, otherwise its boring.

Trash - good rant

Lovely meandering thread for fish/dog/horse/general chat with the odd rant thrown in has been sullied by a lot of shit-stirring. How fucking school-playground!

Are you being deliberately disingenuous Pingu? You've painted us as a two-faced clique, slagging off bootcampers behind their backs. You seem to be missing a few points...

We had been asked not to encourage cheating by mentioning it on the main thread, hence Eva starting this thread for those who are maintaining and can afford the odd slip.

Those of us who had continued on the inter-Bootcamp chat thread and got to know each other quite well didn't want to appear cliquey on the main thread by chatting all the time about non-bootcamp-related stuff which others would feel left out of. Hence the non-bootcamp stuff here, and bootcamp stuff on the main thread.

This is an open thread on an open forum on which everybody is welcome to join in with if they're pleasant, yet you're behaving as though you've 'discovered' us over being mean. Are we all aged 13 or something?

I haven't been on the main thread because I'm not bootcamping at all at the moment, in fact I'm being a carby twat. My feeling remains much the same as Trashy's though tbh - if you're on Bootcamp, either do it or don't do it, but doing it and then cheating is fucking pointless. I'm keeping up with the other thread and was going to contribute but someone said they found all the gourmet low carb unhelpful - since that's about all I can contribute, I thought I'd better stay out of it. I'm not finding the atmosphere there quite so friendly as in past ones, frankly; neatly evidenced by this little drama.

I'm quite pissed off about this actually.

Crabby - In Pingus defence although this thread and the 'SuperRant'™ may not actually be cliquey and two faced I can see why it would come across like that to people on the thread who were already feeling a bit upset by the whole cheating debacle over there. Personally I don't give a damn what people say and think about me and equally I don't really care what other people do on bootcamp but there are quite a few people who have been upset by some of the more negative comments, which is why I originally mentioned that it was becoming a bit of a problem, this is clearly coming across in peoples reactions to what has been said on here too. Several people have now dropped out/left the other thread because they were upset by everything that has been said, not just Pingu so it's not just one person making drama.

Really I think everyone just needs to draw a line in the sand and forget about it all or we're all just going to keep going round in circles getting pissed off with each other.

On another note I personally would love it if you did come back onto the other thread to share your recipes because they are super yum I have your blog bookmarked on my task bar thingy although sadly nuts are a pain in the bum for making me stall so all the lovely puddings have to be a rare treat

Thank you Bird. All it was going to take was one person to speak up. Others feel the same, not just me. I wouldn't tolerate being spoken about like it in RL so I don't see why I should turn a blind eye here.

We are all meant to be here to help each other not have one person be 'the boss' and be ranted at. We all have lives to lead around this WOE and we are all adults capable of making our own choices in what goes in our mouths. If I want a weekend away off plan I will and I feel I have something to share regarding I will do that too.

Yes, I gained 4lbs over the two days 'enjoying myself' but worked hard and then lost 5lb over the next 7 days. Most of us here don't cheat just for the sake of it - most people are placed in a difficult situation and they do their best.

I didn't have a problem with being told it was a ten week commitment, I understand that, I immediately saw red when that person ranting about it admitted herself to 'drinking copiously' clearly one boot camp rule for one but a different rule for others.

Maybe crabby you should re-read the rant and ask yourself who the 13 year olds are......