Week 10 - Low Carb Bootcamp - the last week!

[BIWI]

Well, finally, we reach the finish line! One more week to shout your shit.

Here's the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And the Weight Tracker

Hope the results are positive for you today - and that the rest of this week gives you time to drop another pound or two.

eva - quick buy a lottery ticket ! X

Thanks Eva and whoosh I know I shouldn't care but how dare he decide that I can't do it. I can play badminton better than he can, I ride horses, I can hang upside down from a pole with one leg and lots of other things. I am fat but I am not as unfit as I look I don't think.

Anyway, its probably because its just combined with another friend at work who has been working away said something which also made me think about how my "friends" see me. They are my friends but they must think these things too.

Four of us go to pole dancing, I am by far the fattest, one of the others is overweight but much thinner than me, size 12 vs size 18. The colleague who had been away said "K goes pole dancing " I knew it was meant as a I can't imagine seeing her pole dance (cause she is overweight). So I am even more overweight what does she think of me?

Being fat has never stopped me doing anything I want, except fitting into smaller clothes but now I feel like I don't want to go back to badminton group, or if I do I don't want to play with the guy.

Another thing is I've lost 1.5 stone, my jeans are a size smaller, why the fuck has no one noticed. And they do that thing "oh your not that fat"...I feel like saying to them (size 8ish) so if you were my size you'd feel fine and happy about that would you? They would think they were fat if they put on half a stone I bet.

Sorry, rant over. I really need to try and let this go

Fuckers

your = you are

Um. May have spoken too soon. Ive gained 2lb

Im due on tomorrow though.

Right. Tell me where this cunt works ..... But seriously sayra I feel your pain utterly. There's nothing to be done but surf on the wave of pain, and use it to power you forwards towards your ultimate goal. Pain is an excellent teacher I have decided. I was such a bitter cow last week. I couldn't get round how all of my slender friends are able to eat all the lovely foods and seemingly not gain a pound. I also feel angry at not being able to achieve the level of fitness I'd like without some fucking thing breaking in my body. I went to this thing called the BANFF film festival with dp and his family last night. It was a collection of amazing little films made by all different people from all over the world doing their various (high octane sport/adventure) things. It evoked two sets of feelings - one, wanderlust. I have hardly been anywhere. I had my first baby at eighteen, and now the twins are nine and I'm 36 and feel like I've achieved nothing for myself in life so far and have seen nothing of the world. I don't feel like it would be fair to uproot the kids as they have their daddy and their younger brothers and stepmum, who they see three night of the week. Secondly I feel agrieved that even if I am slender I can't get the strength to do anything because of hypermobility. Which is silly, because I know there are folk in much worse positions than me, and also, hopefully things will be better after the surgery to correct my unstable ankle - meaning I will be able to do all the activities I love so much, like riding and climbing and running.

Fuck it. I mean, as an aside sayra riding takes incredible strength and stamina. I am gonna start doing fucking weights or some shit. I can swim for cardio, and bollocks, I'm gonna pump iron to try and increase my strength. I feel so tired and crap all the time right now, I need something to change.

and when I'm ready - I'm going to buy all the nicest clothes in the world, and have eyebag surgery and possibly my tits uplifted

Woo hoo - go trashcan!

OK you lot. I need your help.

I'm going to post next week about the next Bootcamp and, as before, I'm going to write a piece about planning for it. Obviously I've written about this in other posts, so I could just c+p, but I wonder if there's anything from your perspectives that you wish you'd known about before you started? Or any other pearls of wisdom that you'd like to share with those who might be new to Bootcamp/low carbing?

TIA

Ps ... Having thought about what I said ..... trashy - I didn't mean that you were in anyway a physically confrontational person - I just meant you are so witty and astute - you would run rings around him intellectually . I really hope I didn't cause any offence - I meant it as a compliment .!

Ps again ....if there is a body pump class near you - trashy ... Can recommend is low impact but great for muscle building . X

I read it as a compliment to trash - hopefully she did too.

Sayra I can entirely understand why you're upset - comments are cruel and this was crueller than that. Someone wise told me it takes a good 2 stone before people notice - I've been lucky that it was noticeable to some friends before that, but generally I think it's probably true. He was hurtful - and he probably lacks empathy from the sounds of it, is possibly on the end of the autistic spectrum (sorry if that's too much of a leap) - but even so, it was hurtful. And your colleagues, I think are trying to be "nice" whereas you need something more than nice, you need positivity and affirmation. And if you can't get it anywhere else, you can give it to yourself (which it sounds like you are doing ) and you can get it here. I really hope that you keep on keeping on, and go to the badminton!! I'm in awe of the pole dancing and badminton, as I wasn't that great at such things before my accident, and now I'll never do them... I should have said this to you before, I've thought it for a while, I am not just saying it to be "nice".

BIWI I think you brought us into this brilliantly. The questions thread really worked. I was surprised by how much it took over my world - my internal world, thinking, planning.
My 3 instructions would be (for me, and from reading other people's posts)

1. Plan plan plan
2. Don't expect anything else of yourself/ change anything else at the same time (eg. exercise, work patterns, new courses, anything)
3. Tell only your nearest and dearest what you're doing, but do tell them.

As for me, the artificial sweeteners are going, from tomorrow morning, and I will start my two weeks straight away (trying to fit round trips away and baking occasions!) - not that I've wandered far... but I have wandered.

Sayra your colleague sounds like a total wanker and a male Wendy - call him Wendell from now on. I hate when new people try to take over and change things. DD meets up with 10 girls from around the country every couple of months and a new girl joined the group earlier in the year. last week the main organiser said she was stepping down due to work commitments. Before the others could say anything the newbie, at her 2nd meet-up, announced she'd take over the planning and the changes she was going to make to 'improve' things. This has resulted in 5 girls leaving the group. DD wants to leave, she doesn't feel comfortable with the changes, but doesn't want to be disloyal to the original organiser.

BIWI although we're not counting calories my portions were far too big to start with, crabby's delicious recipes got me through the first few cold weeks as I'd take leftovers to work for lunch but I think know I overdid it especially with her cauli cheese but it might be easier for people as we're well on our way to salad season, they just need to remember to dress them with dollops of mayo and olive oil.

Also, I was reluctant to try a BPC but love them and wonder if they would've helped me get through/avoid the dreaded carbflu that hit me on day 2 and lasted for 5 days as I restarted BC light on Tuesday after a 3 week carby wine-fuelled fest and have been fine. They're such an easy way to increase fat intake and I'm 3lb down already.

It took me a while to get my head round the fat is good thing and I certainly didn't drink enough water so maybe a reminder along the lines of 'when you think you've used enough fat add another knob of butter and when you think you've drank enough have another glass of water'.

Well I did start to type a CrabbySuperReply earlier but then someone rang and then we had dinner and then... well I have nothing of any worth to import now... This is what I started with earlier though, and even though I haven't edited it to erase my own Aspergers lack of tact, I'm just going to post it anyway because I was upset that Sayra was upset.

Ok firstly Sayra... I think you have misinterpreted your colleagues' responses. I don't think that they are cross with your twatty colleage because they all agree that you're fat and incapable of hill walking (but don't want to hurt your feelings); they are cross because he was rude and ignorant in his assumptions and actions! If they play badminton with you then they will already know that you are fit and capable. The shock at his rudeness will have come from exactly that - shock that he was unaware of social norms/rude enough to leave one person in a group out of an invitation. Predicting that this would be hurtful for you, they are rushing to reassure you because they care about your feelings and are at his behaviour.

I could sooooo see xP (leaving off the D is not accidental...) doing something similar, and I am very sure that he is on the spectrum. I once had to dissuade him from dumping his long-term girlfriend on NYE as he'd decided that the relationship didn't have any future because he might want more children and she was too old. He thought it best to get it over with before his birthday (shortly afterwards) because he knew she'd bought him an expensive gift and thought she'd probably want to return it instead, under the circumstances. He thought that this was being very considerate.

With regards to the pole dancing thing... the from your colleague is just as likely (if not more so) to have been about the whole nature of pole dancing (and its association with strippers) as it is to have been anything to do with weight! Judgemental people are everywhere - you can't let them bother you.

Crabby we all love to hear from you so none of this "nothing of worth to say" stuff please! I hope your fishies are flourishing and giving you pleasure.

BIWI you have already expressed this WOE and what to do (and why) brilliantly and succinctly, I remember reading the 10 rules and the intro pages and feeling that I knew exactly what to do, I'd "got it".

On lots of things that sprang to my mind in answer to your question, I then thought "well its in the 10 rules - but we all just need constant reminding!" (things like, no, really, drink enough water and no, really, eat enough fat).

Looking back I can see two things that caught me out at the start:

1. constipation - it could be worth flagging up to watch out for this and that this really is a very excellent reason to drink enough water and eat enough fat. I didn't see it coming as a possible side-effect and it was very disconcerting (AND made worse by the fact that I wasn't drinking enough/eating enough fat early on...)

1. salt - a warning that if you are suffering cramp and/or really really thirsty, you need to eat more salt. It took me many weeks to work that one out.

Beyond this, two other things

1. The concept of the fat:protein:carb ratio. Though this could be a little too much detail for right at the start, to be honest. Maybe once people are stuck in, describing what this really means could be good. Eg, eating lots of low-fat protein won't be helping. There was a post once where someone shared the fat-protein-carb ratio they'd got from my fitness planner and what the meal actually was - I'd never be able to find that post again but a sort of "example" meal might be good at some point, eg like your ubercamp menus which give a really good idea of what a bootcamp meal might look like.

1. I know you already say this, but its good to describe the "unforgiving" nature of this way of eating, especially as it is particularly unforgiving at the point of getting started and keto-adapted. I know that the thought about its unforgiving nature really helped keep me on the straight and narrow - a sort of "if I give in and eat this bread I'll set myself back days, PLUS all that fat I've just eaten will be shepherded straight into my fat cells, so its just not worth it". Many times I have read "I've completely stuck to the rules except for one X a week ago, and I've stayed the same/gained..." Is it worth saying, if you can say "except for..." about any of it then you basically, effectively haven't done the first 2 weeks, and that goes for not drinking enough water as much as anything else? Its really tricky because also you don't want people to become discouraged if they slip up because that would be such a shame and a waste. Such a fine psychological balance!

But you already do it so well, so I say, just carry on carrying on BIWI you've already got it all going so well. It worked absolute wonders for me !

Thank you all so much, you are all so lovely. I am very tired so don't have time to go through and say thank you individually but really thank you (is that enough thank yous?!).

I do agree about colleague being on the spectrum, a few of us thought this before this incident as well due to a few things he does. It doesn't make it feel less upsetting though even though I know he probably didn't really mean it to be hurtful, he also wouldn't have realised that my friend would have shown me his response.

I am not going to let it hinder me in anyway and I won't stop going to badminton (I was there first) cause I really enjoy it

In general I am not bothered about people not noticing I've lost weight, means they don't notice gains either, I wanted to shout "But I'm trying to lose weight can't you see!!!". Anyway, if I was someone else talking to me I'd tell me that my reaction/responses to colleagues (nice ones and not-so nice one) is more to do with how I feel about myself than what they actually think or do. I tell myself I don't care what people think but obviously I do or I wouldn't have been upset.

Thank you again for being here and listening, I am shit at talking about feelings etc and its much easier for me to write it down and not have to speak to someone.

Moving on....I've had a great day today, I drove up to Aberdeen (165 miles) to visit my friend from Denmark that I met in New Zealand who is here for a week staying with her Danish friend who lives in Aberdeen did you get that?!

I've just arrived back home after visiting a castle and going for a walk and lunch, it only took me 3 hours and 6 minutes to drive back which I think was pretty good.

Shattered now so off to bed, night night. Love you all

Quick probably stupid question...

Im a first thing in morning after a wee weigher.

This morning I havent weighed until just now. Since Ive been up (which has been an hour), Ive drunk a litre of fluid.

Does this mean that this mornings weigh in (which was 148lb) is 2.5lb of fluid, thus making my weight actually 145.5lb if Id have weighed immediatley upon waking?

I am Geordie ..... We're like, practically Vikings, so it's entirely natural to make berserker type assumptions. although the chihuahua is ruining everything in the image department

So pleased you're feeling better sayra

BIWI I really loved all the intro stuff. I agree with LMD about keeping what you're up to private apart from nearest and dearest. And also with Eva about simplifying the fat to protein to carbs ratio, if we could get our shit together, we could post more pictures of what our meals look like - I'm sure there's a thread dedicated to this already. It is always better to be able to see what your food looks like.

Oh and here's a cute man/puppy picture just for shits and giggles

monkey I don't know if it works exactly like that. I just assume that I am actually lighter than what the scales say if I weigh after drinking/eating but don't think about how much. Why not just wait and see what the scales say tomorrow?

Because because because my awesome scientific skills say that my reasoning MUST be right therefore Im thinner than yesterday. stamps feet

Well it that case as a scientisty person I say you are correct and you are thinner than yesterday does that make you feel better?

Much. Thank you

I liked it so much I had to post twice