Week 6 - Low Carb Bootcamp - We're Past the Halfway Point!

[BIWI]

Morning! In a rush, so not much time to post - off to Leeds today so have to go for my train.

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I have been a twat of the carby variety. For three days I have eaten all manner of processed shite. I have raging indigestion, blisters on my tongue, I've lost half a tooth on a chocolate bar, I feel like the size of a house with a stomach like a football. I didn't enjoy any of the things I ate, they all tasted chemically and nasty but I ate them anyway. I am now back at my pre-BC weight and am thoroughly pissed off with myself.

So I am back I hope/think.

Sorry for everyone who is struggling. Humph, I hope you are a bit better now. With D and V, you have to go with what you feel like, but with salt and sugar to get you back to normal. LC will be here for you when you are better. Hope you got some rest.

Chester, be kind to yourself. Today is a new day. Water, water, water. Butter, butter, butter. Have you got the IPD book? There is a lot in there about emotional eating. Well worth a read.

Am doing OK on the food but have had a bit of wine here and there in the evenings. Have got a strange period and a cold, neither of which is helping. HOWEVER, it's half term, I'm not working today, it's not raining and I am going out for lunch. Hurray. Life is good.

Have a good day everyone.

Woke up this morning seriously wondering whether to chuck the towel in. Especially after last nights Milky Way, so days now to get back ketoadapted. alot of people seem to be having some great success with 5:2 and think that would be so easy for me (cos I can eat choc!) but it's had some negative effects on BFing mums.

All that said I do believe in this WOE I just find it so difficult. So I've decided to keep on, im 2lb up after last nights slip. Yesterday was strange I was on day 3 of ubercamp and I swear food yesterday consumed me, sugar was all I thought about all day, made me short tempered and miserable. It was lovely when I gave in. Wondering whether uber and BF is just too much.

So onwards and downwards, I think ubercamp has shown me dairy is a staller for me so other than cream in 2 coffees in the morning I'm going to cut out cheese n yog. Do you think that will still work or has dairy got to be completely knocked on the head?

Today:
B: tuna mayo
D: corned beef n some spinach
T: 3 BF sausages
S: 2 BP coffees and 3 litres of water

El - I think Uber and BF is too much personally. My baby is just slightly younger than yours and I am just about holding it together on BC lightish. I question whether you're eating enough at all, for you (as the milk will take what it needs regardless). Looking at your menu today is there enough veg?
I've missed quite a lot of the thread recently but I remember you seemed happy with general bootcamp but you've gone to Uber, what happened? I can read back if you prefer x

El - you are having a tough time at the mo, and it is a fact that we eat for comfort (that's prob why you are craving sugar, as much as anything else). It doesn't take days to get back into ketosis, as your body is already ketoadapted. Please don't let one milky way derail your entire WOE. If you crave sugar, have you tried Liquorice tea? It's carb-free, but v sweet, somehow. I can't drink it, it's too sweet!

As you are bfing, I think you are allowed some extras! Your 2 coffee-with-creams sounds ok. Are you getting plenty of allowed veg?

Personally I find the 5:2 very restrictive - I so much prefer to eat what I want (LC of course) rather than feel hungry on 2 days a week! Esp if BFing. I hate feeling huingry!

Pseudo - I went to ubercamp as I had stalled and not lost any weight for over 3 weeks. So after hearing uber could kick start gave it a try. Are you losing on BC light? I lost a stone in first 3 weeks then nothing after. Thanks for your advice, I'll add spins I to tuna mayo and maybe some celeriac chips with saus xx

Captain - I will get some today thanks

disclaimer: i know nothign about breastfeeding

but i am sure that i have read on MN generally that some people have simply found it impossible to lose much weight if anything whilst breastfeeding (regardless of chosen diet) as that is the way the hormones affect them. conversely some people lose tonnes of weight while mainlining cake - your mileage may vary. so do be kind to yourself and your body which is doing a job that requires an enormous amount of energy and all sorts of hormones etc racing around

Thanks for all your kind words, guys, it really does mean a lot.

I think the scales triggered it. I was doing great, then gained on Sunday, so had chocolate that night. Then I didn’t weigh on Monday but was worried because I’d had chocolate, so then I stopped for petrol on the way home and it all went belly up. I was shattered too as I’d had no sleep at all Sunday night (DS related) so that contributed too.

I’m sick of faffing round and getting nowhere. I know what I need to do but I just can’t seem to stop sabotaging my efforts. It’s like I go into a trance and there’s no stopping myself.

BUT – this used to happen a lot more regularly before I started LCing, so I suppose that’s a positive. I want miracles but maybe I will have to take the scenic route and stop being so hard on myself for every little slip.

I am really all or nothing too so once I deviate from the rules even a tiny but I go into full on fuckit mode and eat/drink everything in sight.

I do think I need to stay away from the scales for a bit as they do not do me any favours. I am not a measurer – if I lose inches I always tell myself it’s because I measuring in the wrong place but I do have LOTS of tight clothes I can use as a gauge.

Today's plan is:
B: two eggs, huge chunk of butter
L: Something from M&S - salmon or prawns with salad and olive oil?
S: BPC
D: Sausage (1.6g for two), celeriac mash with butter, maybe some roast broccoli or cauli with olive oil

At least three litres of water

El Bombero as you are Bfeeding please be kind with yourself - you may need to eat more for this reason. I know someone who dieted (was anorexic previously) while breastfeeding and their baby failed to thrive. Don't want to scare you but not sure fasting for a day and bfeeding would be compatible. Though I'm no expert.

^ when I say they dieted I mean they hardly ate anything.

Aw yes suzymoo, like I said wouldn't 5:2 whilst BF. My milk supply and his weight gain doesn't seem to be affected by this WOE but maybe uber wasn't my brightest idea. Just keep eyeing up my old clothes, I'm desperate to get out of the leggings!! Although jeans are back on this week

El I have been losing on light. I'm not 'dieting' at all, I've just changed what I eat. The light bits that I do are berries with yoghurt (frozen blueberries or raspberries) and snacks of Brazils or pecans once a day if needed. I snack on a slice of cheddar, and this week I've included a teaspoon of peanut butter so I'll see what the damage is from that!
I cook everything in butter and use full fat milk and have cream in coffee.
However... After dc1 I tried to 'diet' (WW) at about 3 months and felt so ill and couldn't shift any weight. I stopped and started again when he was about 7 months.

I think my advice would be either try a week or two of BC or BC light, eat plenty but to the rules (to make sure that you're eating enough) and see what happens as a test, or stop completely and eat 'normally' for a while and see what happens. Thinking of you

Hi elbombero when I first did this bootcamp babyTwit was ebf. I found it harder at first I think (with carb flu) than any one else on that bootcamp, and I only lost a little at first, then stalled for weeks. I kept on being careful and at the final weigh in, I had lost about a stone.
I wasn't über strict as I was paranoid about my milk supply etc (although I already can't eat wheat based stuff anyway) and took BiWis advice and just focused on how I felt, looked, what my clothes looed like etc.

I realise after my enormous whine yesterday (sorry) anything I say is a bit but still, hopefully it will encorourage you to keep going.
You have already lost a stone . And you are pissed off

In fact, in order to force my focus away from weight back onto how I feel I am going to put my scales away for two weeks. I am going to relax (ie do bootcamp/bootcamp lite) and try to just be.. Does anyone want to join me? chester?, elbombero? Anyone?

Oh, sorry, just to add, I tried being ultra strict back then, and it made me break and eat a big cookie. I reckon our bodies, more so when BF take a while to relax into thinking, ok, I'm still getting what I need, I'll let go of this fat.

And encorourage? WTF? I spelt it right and it auto corrected it!

Haha thanks twit

Errrrmmm the scales, I need them!!! I depend on them!!!! Ok I'm gonna move them out of the bathroom but think I might have to do the Monday weigh in, moving from daily weigh ins though will do me good.

Morning all!

Sarah- oh no! I hope you got dinner eventually!

Crabby I’m sorry you’re feeling anxious, too. Food (and in the past self-harm) have definitely been a kind of coping mechanism in my bad times, and really both should be behind me in that sense. But it’s been a stressful time lately, and the old feelings do crop up. Sigh. Still, they’ll go away too, luckily. In the meantime I’ll happily lounge in your psycho grumpy fuckers cushion circle!

Athel Well done acting so reasonable despite feeling so crappy. A violent hobby sounds good, actually… Let me know if you discover a good one!

Humprey I hope you feel better today, already. Drink loads and go see a dr if you won’t get better soon.

Eva Yay for nerdish surveys! :) Not that I’d have doubted the nutrition, anyway. Grains and sugar etc are hardly packed with micronutrients.

Pisci That’s interesting. I can only speak for myself, of course, but I personally found it easier to quit smoking and benzos than to conquer the sugar head. I think partly it’s because you can actually properly quit other things, but you can’t stop eating.

Lovecat I hope the ibuprofein works, hun, and you can avoid the surgery. I’ll do a private eye roll at your squeamish doctor, though!

Welcome back on the wagon Chester, and sorry and to everyone else struggling, too.

My yesterday’s twat attack scared the hell out of me, because I decided to see what it had done to my blood glucose. Holy mother of fuck! It climbed to 12 in two hours, and then took another three hours to come back to sort of normal. And of course I felt rubbish. Wheat is evil. If I absolutely must comfort eat, let it be cream and berries and dark chocolate!

But on a positive side – we’ve just exchanged on the house we’re buying this morning! [happy dance]

ElBombero I think your dairy plan is good. You can definitely have the 'it's harder for me' prize whilst breastfeeding - and any others who are too, I salute you all. I too think uber camp is terribly hard at the best of times, and maybe bc light is more for bf. Slowly and surely wins the race.

Willie am sniggering at 'mainlining cake'

Hello to everybody else, I feel so privileged to be part of this, thank you all for your continuing excellence in all quarters

Food yesterday

B - 2 boiled eggs in a cup with a slice of butter

L - Tuna mayo with handful of spinach leaves

S - 2 x pork scratchings

D - Takeaway from Lebanese place - grilled chicken (skin on) garlic mayo and spoonful of tabbouleh (chopped herbs? I think)

4 litres water

Today so far

B - Flat mushroom fried in butter, scrambled duck eggs (2) four strips streaky bacon

Cup of rooibos with 2 teaspns clotted cream

1.5 l water

Am just mainlining a bar of G&B milk chocolate. In my defence, it's because I had a horrible shock when my baby had a non-breathing episode - he, like DS1, has always had an issue with breathing when they get too worked up, I have to poke them in the solar plexus to get them breathing again - only this time he did it lying on his tummy in the playpen, so I couldn't immediately get to his solar plexus. By the time I'd picked him up because he'd gone rigid, he was on the way to passing out - and then his eyes closed and he was out. At this point, the received opinion is that the baby will start to breathe again - only he didn't.
MIL was here - she said DH used to do the same, only he'd hold his breath until he passed out and then breathe - this isn't the same, and DH had never not started breathing again.
I had to pump his chest, MIL was flicking his ear and shaking his arm, I shook his body (gently!) and then he breathed, thank God! and then he came round slowly and OMFG it was scary.

So. Shock wearing off now, and the need for chocolate was too much for me. Can't have alcohol, it's absolutely counterproductive in this situation, but chocolate is a must.

I'll be good tomorrow.

He's absolutely fine, btw! Forgot to mention that, sorry!

crabby I definitely think our grumpy misery has got to do with the removal of another crutch. I can almost feel my brain 'fishing' for emotional get outs at times. So yes, first thought would be - a spliff, although, I'm trained out of that now, second thought would be sweeties and crisps, or doughnuts and chocolate bread products, third would possibly be alcohol, but I'm rubbish at drinking so that would inevitably lead to greggs cheese pasties later, or possibly a kebab. My final thoughts, seem to then gravitate towards fury, sadness, and then anxiety.

Having moved through all of these fucking emotional temperatures, I am quite capable of starting the entire process again from scratch, and working on a kind of loop. Trigger points for me are mostly centred around the supermarket. I wonder what subliminal consumer programming we are having to fight off?

Right now I feel I've moved through that for the moment, and am currently treading water in a 'numb' period. My gut instinct tells me, that I'm 'processing' as it were, and that I will develop, mindfully, different coping strategies. This thread (BIWI am in your debt) is one of them. I guess the others are, having a tidy house, having a non chaotic balanced fulfilling life (which I take the credit for, I've worked really fucking hard at it) having a loving relaitionship with my partner/dcs/friends and actually, my lovely job, which gets me out of the house every single day to 'commune with nature' walk the dogs at the park or beach

oh thumbwitch how rotten for you all!

shitting hell thumbwitch. it's terrifying just reading that. i think sugar is supposed to help with shock? hope you're ok