Week 3 Low Carb Bootcamp - Where we stand at the crossroads ...

[BIWI]

Morning everyone.

So, we enter the fabled week 3.

This week you have a choice. You can either continue with Bootcamp or you can move on to Bootcamp Light:

Rules of Bootcamp Light

Or you can do a hybrid - Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend. Totally up to you and what you find is working for you the most.

Don't forget to enter your weight on the weight tracker - today you should see your graph appear! Or if you prefer, here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And now - a word of warning!

It is very, very, very common for weight loss to slow down/stop altogether in weeks 3, 4 and/or 5. This seems to be entirely normal. It's probably to do with your body adjusting to low carbing. You will have junked the glycogen stores and a load of water, and will now be burning fat. From here on, weight loss will - and should be - around 1-2lbs a week

Good luck everyone!

crabby massive well done on your amazing positive attitude!! I am soooo hearing you on the planning thing. I have realised that even when I have just finished a delicious meal, I have to be planning the cooking times for the next one (at least) I start to feel panicked if I don't live two meals ahead mentally at all times - and that is even when there is a meal-planned full shop in the house.

Feel so much better about the Horizon program this morning. Loving everyones wise words

My tummy is definitely shrinking.

What kind of water are people drinking? I feel such a lamo that I can't stomach tap water in the amounts required, so I have been doing in Evian. Dp gently pointed out that I have spent £60 quid so far on water. Obscene! So I have switched to Aqua Pura, which is half the price - still 30 quid a month though - but my defense is a) it's locally sourced scraping the barrel a bit there and b) I am not buying any other 'edible' treats. Our food shop is coming in at a lower cost and I'm not drinking any alcohol, which actually on a night out twice a month would be more than £30. Am I being a twat?

hi all
For the emotional eaters amongst us, I totally sympathise as its my problem too. I had a lightbulb moment last week at my sister in law's house. She is slender and eats completely normally, and has an immaculate home. (I know, she is very perfect!, but also lovely). I told her about my psychological eating problems, and said that when I feel stressed or snowed under, I turn to the high carb things. She said she deals with stress by cleaning and sorting, as she said she couldn't understand how a piece of cake would make her feel better. It was weird, because she also has a coping mechanism, but her outlet is in hoovering and putting things away, rather than cake and wine!
So I've tried to channel my need for soothing carbs into having a tidier and emptier home, and so far its working. The calmer space around me (one drawer at a time, no major blitzes) means I don't feel so snowed under and in need of biscuits.

On another note, I've got a stinking cold / sore throat, which I usually medicate with red wine, chocolate and hot lemon and honey. I've binned the chocolate, but what cold remedies can I have on a low carb regime?

J

Just popping on quickly to moan wonder aloud.
I'm going to keep my pre period bloat on now as part of the 3/4/5 week stall aren't I?
I haven't moved since Monday on the scales - which is fine - I'm not fretting about the lack of movement at the moment, it's just, well, not fair.

I really do feel like stamping my feet about it though, as not only am I actually heavier, I look heavier too, clothes are back to being slightly tight etc.
yesterday I had roast chicken and mashed swede for tea, lots of butter etc. it was yum and just the thing I needed.

Also, I've checked and checked, my starting weight is definitely 156 lb. some really kindly put my weight on but as 158 (I think). Please could some one lovely change it, I'm really sorry to be a pain.
Hope all is well with you all, will catch up with the thread later.

So much chatter!

Last night's mushroom sauce was very nice and saved a rather disappointing steak.
Also must share a picture of my "muesli" - it smells gorgeous and cinnamony and DH loves it.

I didn't watch Horizon, as I had a feeling it probably wouldn't be good for my blood pressure. Sounds like I was right.

Crappy I'm glad her party was such a success. Your plans for the month ahead sound great.

Chester I used to have a massive problem with emotional eating. You have my sympathies. :( I had bulimia, and managed to get rid of the purging well before the emotional binges, which is how I ended up with all the weight. I read some books about mindful eating, and it's definitely worth having a look and a try, but I never really managed to put all that into practice.
The method that worked for me was actually quite boring and ruthless: I sat down and listed all the different foods I could imagine and thought "if I had that in my cupboard and felt bad, would I want to eat that?" and if the answer was yes, I crossed it off the list. And then I wouldn't buy anything that wasn't on the list. It was actually really limiting to start with (and very low carb too - I think rice was the only carby food left on my list!) and probably wouldn't work with kids or a DH who wasn't 100% on board. But I was desperate, because I was constantly worried about bulimia relapses etc.
I do go on, don't I...

I don't really have a food plan for today. I had eggs for breakfast, and there's some smoked salmon and cheese and veggies in the fridge to make a lunch out of. Something out of mince for dinner. I might make some chili burgers.

Sounds like the Horizon show was a pile of shite. But it's not surprising - the Sugar Industry wields some extremely large hammers, so any attempt to reduce sugar intake by a large faction will result in some backlash.

Ignore it.

I'm still failing, by the way - had more chocolate tonight but figured I'd already screwed up today really badly so might as well; and then tomorrow I'll start again properly.

I'm also considering digging out my Jillian Michaels DVD as well.

But tonight I should really be doing my tax return and I'm procrastinating yet again. I actually need something that gets me to do the things I need to do when I need to do them, not at the very last minute all the time - will this low-carb WOE do that for me?

(Can I also express the fact that I find it really sad that the initials read "woe" - it shouldn't be linked with misery! Is there another thing it could be called?)

it sounds like a daily mail headline

THUMBWITCH'S LOW CARB WOE

That's about right, Willie!

I'm going to have to bloody look up this Horizon programme now. A friend has linked to it on FB, and now I need to see what it says for myself so I can give him the benefit of my "wisdom" on the issue.

In the meantime I'm trying to remember the name of a book that was written in the 1970s about how bad sugar is for you - the bloke who wrote the book was attacked and discredited massively because of what he'd written - it'll come to me and then I'll pass it on.

Hi everyone,

Firstly thank you Eva I did see your post briefly this morning and it felt really encouraging. I AM going to make a yummy LC dinner tonight.

And Crabby well done for getting through these last few days. And you can get to sobriety when you are ready but how that readiness works I don't know, obviously I was desperate to be ready for about 18 months of torture before my injuries. You're a wonderful, talented lady.

I am... ok. I've swum, I need to eat and baby-proof my living room. And get the pork belly in the slow cooker. I'll be back later with a bit more time. Have a good day everyone.

I deliberately swerved the Horizon show as I knew it would be biased. I'd read the article in the Mail on it and knew it would annoy the hell out of me. Diet shows like that and Supersize etc used to be my favourites but now they just make me cross.

Pleased to report arse firmly back on wagon. Just been to M&S and bought some yummy LC treats - a pot of clotted cream and some crispy bacon strips (like Frazzles but even better). Feeling good now

Well done for overcoming the bulimia and bingeing Steeley. I have certainly found it easier on this WOE, but clearly have a way to go til I am free.

john yudkin pure white and deadly thumbwitch?

(more recent update is lustig's the bitter truth i think)

Tbh the Horizon programme showed nothing....it wasn't scientific in any way.

I am not boot camping (despite signing up) but I am low Carbing as much as possible....and so far have lost nearly a stone.

What IS key though is that I have dropped all the shite processed crap.

And tbh Horizon seemed to suggest that the real issue IS the "shite processed crap" and is the reason we are so overweight now. And no surprise for finding that these foods are full of sugar.

Watch Horizon but take the findings for what they are....an unscientific experiment.

Trashcan - get yourself to Tesco. Their 2L sparkling water bottles are 17p each. Flat water same.

Or have you tried a jug of tap water, with an orange/lemon peel in, or slices cucumber, or slice root ginger? Very drinkable, can almost beleive it's Pimms....

That's the one, Willie! thank you.

There's one in Australia called Sweet Poison as well, by David Gillespie, but I don't know how good it is.

Wotcha campers.

Last night I had baked chicken in wild mushroom sauce with swede and celeriac dolphin pose dauphinoise. It was the booooooooooooom. I'm going to try and upload a picture...

what lovely cutlery and crockery you have ewan.

you could serve that to michel

Trashcan - would you drink filtered, chilled tap water?

That Horizon programme was highly questionable, IMO. If someone had told me that it was somehow 'influenced' by an organisation specialising in carbohydrate-based foodstuff I would not be surprised... I knew there'd be a backlash to the recent realisation that sugar is not a friend to the human diet.

Ambassador great post about emotional eating. If anyone else identifies with that I can recommend India Knight's Idiot-Proof Diet (Not all the recipes are in line with bootcamp although it's along the same lines) The way that they write about the link between our emotions and food are really resounding. I have a spare copy, so if anyone wants it, PM me your address and I'll pop it in the post.

Horizon made me feel like I was following a quack diet. I know it wasn't scientific but that is how it made me feel.

However, I just made cauliflower fried rice for first time & it was yum.

This WOE is good for me because:

1. I'm eating more veg
2. I'm planning my meals out
3. I'm not drinking alcohol, fizzy drinks, squash etc
4. I'm not eating processed food.

Indeed the hardest moments have been when I've gone out to eat -- so as far as I can tell the issue with this way of eating is that it difficult to find process food that complies. But I shouldn't be eating processed food anyway.

Thanks Willie! I am a bit of a vintage crockery junkie and am currently banned from flea markets in case I buy any more

If anyone is interested in reading John Yudkin's book, Pure White and Deadly, you can download a FREE PDF of the book from here

I have read it, some years ago now, and it's well worth it IMO.

I just ate at the Toby Carvery.

Turkey
Beef
Pork
Mashed swede
Cauli
Leeks
A little bit of red cabbage
About a tablespoon of beef gravy

I know I'm probably ok with the meat and veg but do you reckon the gravy was carby enough to set me back?? Anyone?

I can't see that a tablespoon would be that bad, Calamity!

No I didn't think so, thanks BIWI :)

Although I've just looked it up and swede is far carbier than I thought it would be! Still I enjoyed it, had plenty even without the roasties and yorkies and in fact didn't miss them - or pudding - at all. I am shocked at how relaxed and committed I am to this WOE!