Week 3 Low Carb Bootcamp - Where we stand at the crossroads ...

[BIWI]

Morning everyone.

So, we enter the fabled week 3.

This week you have a choice. You can either continue with Bootcamp or you can move on to Bootcamp Light:

Rules of Bootcamp Light

Or you can do a hybrid - Bootcamp during the week and Bootcamp Light at the weekend. Totally up to you and what you find is working for you the most.

Don't forget to enter your weight on the weight tracker - today you should see your graph appear! Or if you prefer, here is the Spreadsheet of Fabulousness

And now - a word of warning!

It is very, very, very common for weight loss to slow down/stop altogether in weeks 3, 4 and/or 5. This seems to be entirely normal. It's probably to do with your body adjusting to low carbing. You will have junked the glycogen stores and a load of water, and will now be burning fat. From here on, weight loss will - and should be - around 1-2lbs a week

Good luck everyone!

trashcan's rant! love it!

I didn't watch it as I knew it would make my blood boil. I've just completed a food diary for a week for my DD for her college course - can just imagine their faces when they are analysing it.

Finally got myself properly back on the straight and narrow about a week ago. Have lost somewhere in the region of three pounds I think. I've added it to the weight tracker, but do I need to put it on the spreadsheet as well?

Feels really good to be eating well and looking after myself again.

Continued good luck to everyone

In other news, I nearly bought some pork belly in Sainsbury's today but it reminded me too much of mine so I left it on the shelf.

Sorry, I was out this evening. I had meant to record Horizon but I forgot. However, I'm not surprised the results were 'odd' - you can't possibly base a study on two people. And just because they are twins doesn't make it any more 'scientific'

Didn't see it either but there's an interesting post from someone on the paleo thread who criticises it re the perceived insulin spike etc

BIWI they did acknowledge that you can't base a study on two people. They also spoke to a researcher at Oxford who has been studying groups of people for over ten years. I watched it with an open mind and found it interesting.

Ugh. It was my birthday today, and I had a slice of chocolate birthday cake. It was soooo good. And I couldn't not eat it, it was at a surprise party with loads of my family.
No choice there right?

Yay well done athel that is as motivating as a good loss on the scales.

Am loving this thread, tho a bit early in the morning For all this gin talk and hope you're sticking with it Mlig I've been dipping in and out of this WOE with varying levels of success, depending on my commitment to organising myself and laying off the . I do think it makes me more in touch with what I need food wise and I have figured out what stalls me and what helps the woosh fairy visit, but I have had to think a lot about food on the way and that doesn't work for everyone.

I am through the sugar craving stage, lovely work lunch yesterday colleagues sceptical at my scallops and butter, belly pork and greens, I had no desire for the sponge pudding or chocolate tort thingummy... Just had an extra glass of soda with lime. Smug face come 3pm when I was most awake of all of us... And did not fall into the biscuit tin, repeatedly, for the rest of the day!

I need inspiration for beef shin tea that doesn't involve DH fave recipe of several tins of tomatoes, red wine and carby carrots but not much in cupboards. Will bunging it in the slow cooker with HM stock work?

I absolutely love gin, all sorts, love experimenting with different ones, but my go to is definitely Gordon's.

I shall find the telly prog on iplayer, even though it sounds daft.

at Nelly

Morning all :)

I also hate gin except as part of Pimms (that's about the only thing I've really retained from the posts I've skipped through, sorry )

I have been so bad. It's too fecking hot, I'm miserable from that, school started again yesterday so I'm back on a morning schedule (which I also hate) and so I have been slipping.
Milkshake yesterday with Ds1 (first day back treat) - I just plain forgot! I did share it with DS2 as well though.
Not too bad on the food front:
B - 1 egg omelette with mushroom and cheese
L - leftover prawns with avocado, cucumber and tzatziki
D - kangaroo steak with veg (covered in butter)
S - damn protein bar. Had to or it would have been proper chocolate. Oh and a block of cheese and an apple.

Today:
B - 1 egg omelette with mushroom and cheese
L - bacon and courgette frittata, but at a café and it almost certainly had some kind of carb in it, rather than just egg, because it was so stodgy! If it was wheat-based, I will suffer later when my guts realise.
AND a hot chocolate because I didn't want a fruit smoothie and I'm not a big fan of coffee.
D - will be salmon steaks with parmesan crust

Am feeling grumpy. Might be because of the general failures, or because of the reaction to the carb-based foods, or because it's too fecking hot, or all 3.

Only bonus is I haven't put on any weight. Haven't lost any either; but stationary is better than increasing.

I really really want a drink though - Pimms and ginger ale is looking very good right now...

I watched Outnumbered instead of Horizon. And very good it was too :)

With my teens and all that goes on, I don't seem to ever get an evening to watch tv, always have to catch up Evenings are the busiest part of the day here.

Big hug for Thumb but in good news, the trend is your friend there, and hopefully the back to school bit will settle down again, can't promise anything re the heat though, you poor things.

Quick thanks to BIWI for her tip on low/no sugar chewing gum - have also discovered peppermint tea for Bear Breath. Love the line "peppermint tears" :)

Morning ....
A sleepless night here ..... Am anxious .... Horizon chap ate no carbs / no sugar but did eat lots of fat like we do on bootcamp ....
He lost 4kg but 2 kg was muscle loss and his fasting blood sugar went up to 5.9 - borderline type2 diabetic !!
DH watched too and is doing his nut thinking I am heading for an early grave and I am 45yr so muscle mass is important heading into menopause .....
Omg ....... Don't know .....
Think I may go to BC light while I try and read read read !

Mrshughjarse I haven't watched te programme yet but as well as doing your own reading (there are recommendations in the spreadsheet) if it helps my mum is a GP and recommends low carb to menopausal women, and she has been very pro low-fat-whole-grains for many years

The Horizon programme really just told us what we already knew. Processed sugary shite mixed with fat is bad for you.

It wasn't scientific in any way......both came out well from it. The results in muscle/fat loss is a red herring because they were different weights etc to start with.

So if you eat low carb high fat that is okay, it seemed to suggest that low fat and high (unprocessed) carb was okay too but we already know that in cultures where that is the norm they dont have the same health issues we do as they dont add in all the sugary processed shite we have here.

Interesting but all you can really say is that it justifies extra research.

Also after 18 months of low carb high fat I had a health check at work - BP, blood glucose, cholesterol all excellent

Although I am only a sample of one like in the programme, I have been LCing for longer and it sounds like more healthily!

Again, speculating here as I haven't sen the programme and not qualified, I wonder whether the muscle mass decease was related to loss of water retained in
muscles - eating carbs is though by some to increase inflammation too whih could be another explanation

Had a lovely day for ds's birthday. I had a couple of slices of the delicious cake that I made (only intended to have one but then it had a terrible accident which means it needs to be eaten quickly) and 2 glasses of Asti. All other meals/snacks were LC and I'm back on it today

I really wouldn't get het up about the Horizon programme, it wasn't a fair trial. I expect low carb has been getting more press lately and Horizon cobbled something together quickly so as to be topical. If they really wanted to do a fair test then apart from doing their research more thoroughly the twins should have each tried both diets with a month between eating their normal diets. Also low carb - high fat diets are renowned for preserving muscle mass and are even know to increase it in some men people, that's one of the reasons why this woe is so effective.

I'm in the middle of reading Gary Taubes' Diet Delusion and from what he says there's a lot more to this woe than losing weight. This is a woe that could potentially lower your risk of heart disease, diabetes, diabetes complications if you're already diabetic, peptic ulcers. And there is recent evidence at the moment that is implicating sugar in the development of Alzheimer's. So this woe isn't just about losing weight, it could dramatically affect your quality of life.

Struggling to keep up with the thread BUT managed one day back on the wagon yesterday, feels SO good to be back on board. I'm still 7lb down from when I started (6th Jan) and must must keep on going. Have a court case next week for the divorce, feeling so stressed about it all.. but know this is the right way forwards for me.

Will try to keep up with the thread too, it's so supportive! Well done to all on here, not only doing well themselves but providing so much support en masse.. :)

Thanks willy - that is very reassuring - I love this woe so much and the lbs are falling .... ( have been dreaming about unknown entities eating away at my muscles !! Going cuckoo !)
I have been asked to attend an ' over 40 ' health check at the surgery soon and they check all those things so feeling much more relaxed ! ...

Morning

I didn't watch it either, but would just like to add that Horizon is no more or less likely to be full of bollocks than any other programme. It seems a long time ago now since it turned into a more populist, headline, lazy show. You used to be able to trust it was unbiased, now it seems to be emoting all over the place; the drama is more important than presenting ALL the facts.

x-posted!

Woolfey, it doesn't matter about the 1.5lbs . I've put on another 4lbs (!) this week, and yet STILL fit into my much, much smaller clothing. TOTM is a pig, whichever way you look at it