I hate men. sorry.

[MascaraOHara]

but there's nobody here to talk to and I just had to get that off my chest.

And I hate myself for being so hopeful when I meet someone I think I could really like.

It's just wanky.

no, I have made an ass of myself.. telling him that if he wasn't sure he shouldn't just throw it away but he insists something isn't right but he just doesn't know what.

he doesn't want me or he doesn't want to mess me around.. can't work him out. the tears and what have you. Just don't get it.

No. Similar head f*ck situation myself...I think men are odder than women TBH.

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Please can I join?

I hate men too. Not all men, just single ones in their late 30s/early 40s. There's a damn good reason why each and every one of them is single IMO, tossers!

MOH - "something isn't right but he doesn't know what" - I've had the very same words exactly from someone very similar quite recently. It is knobspeak for "I don't really want you, but I'd quite like to keep you on the back burner for occasional shags and endless conversations about me, me, me, until I meet someone I really want".

Sorry if that sounds harsh but I feel like Obi Wan Kenobi on the subject of dickhead males atm and I want to impart my wisdom to all the young jedis!

Dior is absolutely right about "He's not that into you" it is The Bible.

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Lead me to this book people. I have a bloke on the go who, says he is an impatient bastard but who sends...wait for it, 1 email in a fortnight.
Ok he was ill and doesnt have a pc at home but FFS.
I need to read this book...

oi torquoise - i'm single and 40, and theres a good reason - i got dumped. and i've found women can do the nobspeak just as eloquently as men.

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OH moh...

Sounds a bit like Bridget Jones and Mark Darcy relationship............

Built on misunderstandings of each others feelings.

Oh I wanna join! Me too! Lots of stories about stoopid men.

OK, I know they aren't all tossers, not by a long shot, but it's good to vent.

Fair do's SDO3, and apologies.

I have just met far more than my fair share of arseholes recently, pretty much a lifetime's worth - surely by the law of averages I'm due a half decent one soon!

Charliecat - do you ever come to any east kent meetups? I could lend you the book. Imbibed much wisdom from it Dior has (I've elevated myself to Yoda status tonight).

Yes I'm going to treat myself and buy "he's just not that into you"

He's the first person I've met who I thought I could rub along with forever.

I am bloody Bridget Jones but without the mad parents and good friends.

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wanky.

he took one look at me this AM and said "you haven't slept have you". he also said that we could talk later if I wanted... ?!?! I'm not sure I gave him a coherent answer mumbled something like "don't worry" or something so now I don't know if he's planning to call or something.

I am SO staying away from men.

I'm angry today.. well, angry and knackered and sad.

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tell him you havent slept because youve been up all night romping with your new man imo sounds like hes playing you...dont fall for it!

I think he meant it in a nice way. I don't know what his game is. Just had to sit next to him all day in a meeting

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lol, he'll think your son has the fastest growing hair in history if you keep taking him lol.

I've just heard I might not have a job in the new year.. seriously wondering if my week could get any worse. Am trying very hard not to let my eyes well up.

Having a crap night tonight.

I'm going to start taking my pills at the weekend.

Am feeling like it's very much his fault today all that bollocks about how my luck had changed, how I needed someone to look after me, my birthday, the holiday etc and now he hasn't even got anything to say for himself. Just really frustrated that I can't have it out with him.

And that today about talking.. he hasn't tried to call. dick.

mascara - obviously havent read much of this - only get a few mins late on after work - but seems youre maybe on a different wavelength altogether to this bloke. wouldnt say all blokes are nobs - or all women ... erm, you know, but is easy to take someone far more seriously than theyre worth, is a pity we can only take someone at their word instead of knowing what theyre thinking. even then they cant always make their minds up.
the thing is - when youre not even looking and least expecting it - you can just walk into someone and think 'wow - where did you come from?'. and you know theyre thinking it too - and it just works.
this guy isnt, he's making excuses, avoiding you and messing about - forget him and move on. you'll feel so much better just being you for a while, not having to be part of something thats dragging you down - which this is. and look forward to someone who's worth it .

Thanks, I know that's all true.. it's just waiting for this feeling to pass..

That said - I am one angry women today!

Oh he's now saying that I pushed him for a decision and he made one, he doesn't know if it's the right one etc

I didn't tell him he had to declare undying love or leave. I told him that if he couldn't tell me he wanted me then obviously there was something wrong and that he should walk away because I couldn't.

He's a farking idiot. He'll never pull someone else like me. his loss. twat.

he wants to know if it's convenient me for us to talk tonight. He doesn't know if he's made the right decision and "The last thing [he] wants is to see [me] hurting like this". He hasn;t given me answers because he doesn't know what to say, apparently.

I feel like telling him no and that I don't want to talk but I'm torn. I think if he came round I'd end up shouting at him (haven't shouted before) and he'd end up sitting there saying "I don't know" like the spineless little rat-boy he appears to be. But then I think, that might be very therapeutic for me.

FFS. what to do?!?!

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