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feeling very down...ex now moved on to someone new

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Antalya1 · 16/08/2010 17:14

I found out a couple of days ago that my ex, we split up 3 months ago. Putting the pieces together he went into that fairly quickly, weeks after we split. I try to keep reminding myself how bad our relationship was in the end, but this has hit me like a ton of bricks, I was doing so well, but now feel as though I'm back to square one. I feel so low and really want to feel so low, ant advice from anyone who's been through this? My head's telling me to build a bridge and get over, but my heart is doing something completely different.

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Antalya1 · 25/08/2010 21:28

ohhhh....very bad news, Mother tround tonight for birthday dinner..and re-living the 'good times' left me nostalgic and tearful..oh really need to get in the zone and remember SGB's images!

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Antalya1 · 25/08/2010 21:30

p.s. had I mentioned recently what a godsend this thread is for me?

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pinemartina · 25/08/2010 22:19

Me too !
I will have 36 hrs with just me and baby dd after youngest dc go to their dads' tomorrow teatime (older 2 already with their Dad)..

Have been desperate for headspace "Mum,MUM,mUMMM" for weeks,but wonder what I will do with the headspace when I get it.Have got some books lined up,ut fear the sad thoughts......dd's away was always my time with xp.We spun many a fantasy about me,him and baby this summer.

I will focus on the skiddy pants image too!!

Antalya1 · 26/08/2010 10:01

oh...damn those exes and head spaceSad...how they really don't deserve it, right conjur up worst image of him, still flat today and worst of all date sent me through a lovely text asking how eldest dyslexia tests went?...oh why can't he be a complete jerk and make this easier (still havn't text through yet cancelling next date!!)
pinemartina and news on your ex yet, has he asked to see dc? and yes after feeling initially lost when DC's go off, the head space without the constant demands that our lovely off-spring demand will be great.

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pinemartina · 26/08/2010 10:57

No.Never a word. Won't reply to my letters or solicitors letter.

I am considering cancelling my profile.I don't think I can be bothered with it all.

Be brave!

here are some links to other posts you might find interesting.....

HERE

AND

HERE

I will carry on this post as a place to "move on"...maybe we should re-name it ?

Antalya1 · 26/08/2010 11:44

What an idiot, and what a fool to lose out on that relationship with his lovely baby...time seems to show that men who behave in this way, do regret this in years to come.

My boys have seen their Dad rearely over the last 14 years, only once, as he lives abroad, regular telephone contact, but he is very much doom and gloom and how hard has treated him so harshly,not a bad person just bloody depressing. My eldest has quite a lot of anger towards him, I do y best to try and way lay this wherever possible, but the hurt is still there for him.

I feel the same way as you today, can I really be bothered with this dating lark? yesterday all i wanted was hot rampant sex, but then realised that it was more than that that I craved, it was the intamacy and being held, so tomorrow, beacuse I am fickle Smile I might change my mind!!

Yes definatly time for a more postive name to the thread, how about...yes he's gone, and some poor other cow that thinks she has got a catch is really in for a rude awakening

pinapplecube SMAP - how are you doing we ghavn't heard from you for a while

SGB please keep posting, they really make me laugh

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pineapplecube · 27/08/2010 03:58

Thankyou so much for asking after me!

I do read this thread everyday and your words of wisdom really help!

Havin a bit of a shit time this week...h being arsey. He is just so HORRIBLE to me you would think I had left him not the other way round. Feels crap even though he was emotional abuser through marriage. I tend to focus on the good bits so hard not too.

Not sleepin too well as you can see from the time...finding the whole divorce thing very stressful. The most difficult thing is when my 4 year old baby comes back from being with him and her...it is the most painful thing i have ever experienced to be honest because i didnt have my son so he would be taken away every now and again and spend time with some woman i dont even know.

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 09:27

pineapplecube - I've been there with the not sleeping, waking up at stupid o'clock and then just not sleeping again, in fact it's only the last week or so that my sleep has nearly gone back to normal, still waking up a couple of times, but able to nod off again. So it will get better.

Have you been to the doctors? You may need something to help. Whether you wanted the relationship to end or not, it's still a massive shock to your system, and of course a new GF in the mix has muddied the waters.

As difficult as it is the contact with your H is important for your son, you are the most inportant person in your son's life, and will always remain so, the GF is just that, the GF..remember that, your sons loyalty will always be to you.

Why is your H being so arsey? has this got worse, or has it been this way since he left?

All your feelings now are natural, I have friends who were 100% relieved when their marriages ended, however they still had to go through that process of grief, accept that, because this is what you are experiencing. It hurts like hell, but... Do you have a good network of friends and family around you, have you a chance to get out? at first for me, I could only cope with an hour or so in company, even with close friends, apart from one, who would let me talk and talk for hours, with others although they were fantastic, they thought that trying to take my mind of things was the best way, for some maybe it was, but I needed to talk and the strain of small talk when my whole world had come crashing down was enormous.

Pinapplecube - please keep posting, these threads have really helped me through some of my darkest hours - strangly enough, I though that I was doing so well, but had a relapse the last couple of weeks - so back on MN for that extra support.

I'm at work today, but will keep checking back. XX

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pinemartina · 27/08/2010 11:12

hi pineapple, Antalya - and also anyone else who checks into this thread!

Me too with the early hours waking.Thats' when I have panic attacks.I can manage them in the day,or don't even notice it,but at night I get cold sweats and terrible fears that I can't shake.

It is so much harder ,grieving for a nasty,abusive relationship.I know I keep saying this! I am reminding myself.
I am on my own with just baby for next 24 hours.I have always struggled with panic when on my own,but I am determined to try and start to enjoy this as much as I can
Of course,I am not really alone - but you know how it is with a baby...

I have resolved to try and sort myself out.I posted a link up thread to the other threads I am on.I had a crap childhood and my parents have continued to hurt me .I am aware that this lies at the root of my vulnerability to ending up with my abusive xp.But I want to unpick the details ,so that I don't make any more mistakes like that.

I have decided not to date at all for a while.I think I have been kidding myself,saying I was "only" looking for a bit of attention and distraction....of course I am...but I think,deep down,I have also been hoping that I would be "swept off my feet" at some point.

Posters on another thread - SGB and others,have really helped me to see the risk - for me - in that fantasy.Until I can really get to know myself and what I like - who I am ,I guess..I fear that would fall for the romance itself,perhaps without seeing past it to the man himself.

Looking back,I am sure that is what happened with my x.And he switched it back on in ever decreasing amounts to keep me or get me back ,in between increasingly verbally and emotionally abusive behaviour.

I still pine for the "charming" side of him and for our "big love".I have to truly accept how fake that was - after all,if he really had loved me,he could not have behaved so badly toward me and our dd.

The way he behaved was exactly how my parents were/are.So that was the kind of "love " I felt "at home" with.Not surprisingly,my parents adored my x ,and blame me for driving him away.They do not support me in any way as a single parent,as they see it as my fault.

I have a few books to read today - Free From Lies by Alice Miller and What do You Say After You Say Hello by Eric Berne

(click on the links)
These were recommended to me.

I hope you don't mind me sharing this with you,here.I may sound like I have gone off the track a bit,changing my direction.But I really value the space to write this down,and to know there are others going through similar stuff.

I will be online all day today,as I am staying on the bed with baby,books and laptop.I have a lovely piece of salmon and some vegetables to roast for supper,and some bread and cheese for lunch and plan to enjoy my space.....

I'll let you know how it goes...xx

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 13:04

Had the panic attacks in the early days and they are truly awful, that feeling of teetering on the edge!! and you could so easily go mad.. but my special little pills have helped with that, at least no aniexty attacks, but still the last two weeks just awful heartache, which unfortunatly medical science hasn't come up with a solution for yet. However I did read some months ago that something has been developed for people with post traumatic stress disorder which helps dispell unpleasant memories - could definatly do with a course of those.

pinemartina I did read through the links that you put on, sadness is the word that springs to mind over childhoods that were deliberatly or sometimes just by carelessness and dis-interest marred and scars that carry on into adulthood.

I believe that none of us are 'whole' we all have our issues that we carry onto into adulthood and our own adult relationships, some are better than others at covering these up, but without a doubt, we all have them. It's learning to work with them anda ccept that some of these will always be there and are part of 'us'.

My childhood wasn't particular bad, then again not a particular shinning example of family unity. Parents had unhappy marriage, father numerous affairs and also a wife beater, my Mum has taken over 20 years of divorce to shake her head at what she put up with. Just as an aside my Dad did meet up with my Mum many years later and admitted that he had made huge!!! mistakes and regretted them, nice to have that affirmation at last but a couple of decades to late!

I was fairly close to my Dad and he never laid a finger on me, but I havn't seen him for many years now, as soon as he started to refer to his step-grandchildren as his grandchildren, then I was off. I certaintly wasn't going to have my boys left with feelings of abandonment and being second best to the 'new' family that I had. Funny I can detach myself from anyone that I feel doesn't have either/or mine or my boys best interests at heart.

Not sure where my feelings of dread of abandoment come from?? My ex made the huge mistake of not loving me enough, which I suppose by rights I should be able to come to terms with, but think that this might take a while. Also not forgettin the undermining of my confidence and not ever being quite good enough!!!Not sure If I do need validation through my relationships or if it is just the damage that has been done by this last one!

Turning into a long post, but feeling chatty today, sorry bear with me!

There is a scene in Bridget Jones Diary...or it might have been the next one..The Edge of reason...where she is thrown into a Thai prision, not sure if you've all seen this film? anyway the the Thai girls gather round her and the conversation turns to ex's and how they have been mistreated badly, the conversation goes something along the lines of...
Thai Girls 'did he treat you bad?'
Bridget 'oh yes very bad'
Thai girls 'what did he do'
Bridget 'well at a law associates dinner he sort of ignored me'
Thai girls 'my BF made me go on the game, made me take drugs etc. etc.
Bridget (feeling a little foolish) 'oh yes mine did that as well'

This sort of sums up how I feel at the moment, when I read through all the threads on MN and what awful times some are going through, I do feel like a fraud, as though by rights I should pull myself up by my bootstrings and get on with it.

We all pine for that nice side of them, and on reflection, some probably did their best (within their capacities - very poor I know sometimes), it was just that their idea of a relationship and what is best, just wasn't good enough, in fact damn unacceptable, and so we're left floundering. As women, we are fixers - children, work, home-life, friends problems etc etc. however all of us can only fix our own issues - not theirs.

My vovage will probably include dating - but in a taster way - that is just how we taste receipes and decide what we do and don't like about it, then I'm going to view dating the same way.

Pinemartina - have a lovely day today, but don't isolate yourself, part of the progress is to interact with others. You have many different roles, Mother, friend, daughter etc. but also you have your own persona to nurture and if that includes either being by yourself for a while then so be it, but then again to mix in new company and to have pleasant company for a couple of hours now again is also healthy and also part of the self-discovery path???

At our ages we are unlikely to change our parents, at best the relationship may mellow, but often that admitance from them that they wern't the best parents may never happen and so it is just learning to live with what we have and work on ourselves.

...is everyone still wake and do I make sense at all?? x

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pinemartina · 27/08/2010 13:53

That was a lovely post,Antalya!
LOL at the Bridget Jones scene! But I think we all feel like that,too.
If pulling ourselves up by the bootstrings was possible,we'd have done it by now.

I could maybe do with some AD's again,but am going to BF as long as possible this time,as it's my last,and I'm going to stay on ML for the whole year if I can - gives me til next March then AL til April...

I have just mowed the lawn - love doing that.And will put baby in backpack and take dog for a walk later.

I feel I am at BIG CROSSROADS with lots of choices,but don't know what tthey are..

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 14:23

For all my fine words (and I do belive them) I'm scared that I'll never move past this great sadness and heartache - will I? any positive experiences may make me feel a whole lot better

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pinemartina · 27/08/2010 14:46

I'd love to hear them too

I felt hugely sad for a long time after my 2nd divorce.Then I started to feel ok..THEN I got confident,happy and full of it,started dating,

and met xp
who "swept me off my feet" worked really hard to convince me that "love" was,in fact real,after all.Helped make a baby,promised my dc he'd never let us down,

Then turned into a psycho emotional abuser.

Not that I'm bitter or anything

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 15:40

A friend once said to me of men 'they believe what they say at the time'..later on that's another thing altogether.

....just pondering, just like pregnancy/childbirth .. is a failed relationship harder to get over the older you get??

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pinemartina · 27/08/2010 19:21

I think it is something to do with age....only so many times you can start again with any credibility...at least it feels that way to me,currently.

I'd love to reinvent....move to a different area - countryside near a big town,instead of countryside near nowhere! Leave work,do something different - get paid for painting pictures or something..daydreaming now!

I definitely got the message from my parents - still do - that an enduring marriage is the only true measure of success/happiness.They have only ever approved of me - in fact only ever request my company when I've been married/in a relationship Hmm

That's the bit I have to overcome,I think.Then ,once I'm comfortable on my own,and don't care if I never meet anyone...then I will be ready for a relationship Confused

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 20:30

I've just poured my first glass of wine [pats self on back for holding off till 8 o'clock!] no boys when I got in from work last night, love them dearly, but oh the sheer bliss of peace and quite! and so had two glasses of wine for dinner and on an empty stomach got sloshed by 9.30!

Friday night and I have, oh..the laptop and the telly for company.

Received a nice message off someone that looks half decent! :)wants to have a chat over the weekend, only problem is he lives about 20 miles away...here I go getting carried away again thinking about how that one is going to work!! really need to keep things in perspective...however have to be truly honest, my boys are past needing a babysitter, and there is alot to be said for having a 'special friend with benefits' that I can meet up with a couple of times a month and lives far enough away that I don't have to put lippy on every time I go down to the local quick store.

I miss the familiarity of a relationship but things that are good about being single:

  • I can eat between meals without being frowned upon...so eat as many packet of crisps as I like...ironically however my appetite has completely gone.
  • I can keep the bedside light on all night
  • I can read the paper in bed without moans
  • I can go to bed at whatever time I choose
  • no more awful sulks and atmospheres
  • no more having to fit my life around someone else
  • I can eat as much as I like without having being told that I'm 'letting myself go'
  • My house can be as messy as hell, without being reminded that they are used to certain 'standards' - actually really do need to get to grips with the housework
  • I can smoke as much as I like (or not necessarily a good thing)
  • Don't have stay sober so that I can go and pick him up from the pub
  • No more disdainful looks up and down

...will think of more as the wine flows

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pinemartina · 27/08/2010 20:42

Hey -what's to miss?!

I can =

control tv buttons

sprawl across bed

put crap SKY rubbish on bedroom tv when unable to sleep at 4am

allow dog into front room

I don't have to-

cut his toe nails (ewww)

listen to him clearing his throat a million times a day/night

listen to him fart and then laugh about it

listen to endless "amusing" anecdotes about his previous experience of everywhere,everything and anything.

Yup,more wine required here too

pinemartina · 27/08/2010 20:46

BTW -50 miles is local here - seriously.

Are you in SE England?

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 21:19

No in the NW north Manchester area - but down in the SE a lot for work.

Oh yes watching crap on telly is good one, however I'm outnumbered by boys so mostly watch - re-runs of friends, simpsons..can't really be bothered any more, however highlight of the week tomorrow - the X-Factor!! does life get any better???

Realised today the thing that is most pissing me off about ex is that he's won the 'race'...(goes back to childhood mode) it's not fair!!!..I was supposed to meet someone first and he was supposed to be miserable and lonely, bitterly regretting the split (wine flowing freely now)

But my god he was dull (described by family as 'the grey man') I want to laugh again, as I do with friends...and also (wine on a non-stop tap now)...he was reallyshit in bed, there I've said it!
..talk about the selfishness running over into the bedroom and the 'I'm all right jack' attitude.

Other things that I won't miss:

  • Paying all the bills and feeling so damn resentful
  • Feeling oh so grateful if I was thrown a morsel of a compliment
  • Thinking right better forget all ideas of enjoying sex tonight, he's getting bored
  • Thinking 'oh for god's sake just get on with it and hurry up' when he had had skinful and was taking a longggggggggggggg time!!
  • being told that some of my favourite programmes on telly were crap
  • Feeling resentful for always being the one to do all the shopping/cooking/housework..whilst he goes to the gym to wind down because he's had a stressful day!
  • a complete lack of a sense of humour

....oh I'm on a roll now

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gettingeasier · 27/08/2010 21:35

Hello have read whole thread but am pissed and miserable so wont post other than to say the following re a new man

Anyone who spends more than 50% of conversation time talking about himself without asking about me is automatically out. I spent 17 fucking years being interupted, talked at or over so that is my top concern Grin

I will return tomorrow as so much resonates with me and my situation

pinemartina · 27/08/2010 21:39

Am in S Wales

Your ex sounds delightful!
Can't understand what you miss!!! - No ,don't tell me - stay on the roll!

My ex was either REALLY mean,or pretty much my ideal man.I find it hard to make a list of bad stuff.That's the problem.I mean,he was really appalling,don't get me wrong,and I am glad to be rid of the abuse...but..unfortunately, he was lovely when not awful IYSWIM...

That's the trouble...
Have to drink more slowly,poor baby will have alcoholic milk...

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 22:09

Welcome getting easier to out own and instantly accessible CBT thread!!

pinemartina oh BF not good if you fancy a good old drink!!

Right time to list our positive attributes, I'll start and in no particular order:

  • Intelligent
  • Witty
  • Attractive (to some)
  • Good figure (after post-trauma weight loss)
  • Excellent understanding of world affairs
  • Compassionate
  • Good, Loyal Friend
  • Good Mum ( although teenage off-spring may differ in opinion)
  • Not bad in bed
  • Likeable
  • Interested in others
  • Keep a roof over families head
  • Pragmatic (ish)
  • Ability to resolve conflict (mostly)
  • Can make a 101 dishes from mince
  • Just generally can cook
  • Ability to switch-off (normally from child demands)

Think that's enough boasting for now!

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pinemartina · 27/08/2010 22:27

Welcome gettingeasier

Well ,I think I'm a great catch tbh...serious

I can't think of a lot ,day to day,that I can't cope with.....(except building,plumbing,electrics,mechanics)

Am dead well preserved for age (42) despite post natal excess weight but refuse to get hung up on that as always lose it eventually.

Ace cook

Well sexy

Total Hot Mama

Impeccable taste

Charmingly eccentric

Sharp as nails

Bold as brass

Polishing my confidence with Cabernet Sauvignion

Think I'll get many winks with that?

Antalya1 · 27/08/2010 22:40

Loads of winks!!

Feeling sad now, and nostalgic!!! unfortunately the love of my my life (and he was, didn't see my many attributes. :(

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Antalya1 · 28/08/2010 04:32

....and what was it I saying about getting my sleep back on track! been tossing and turning for the last hour...and so to MN.

Been thinking...very bad for me....about all the things that go when a relationship finishes, not just the lost partner, but the extended family, the 'do's', traditions, memories, being part of something else, knowing someone deeply, everything from how many sugars they take to the name of their childhood pets.

Sometimes it seems incomprehensible that 'that's it'.

How on earth do you get over this, people that move on stronger from broken relationships have my full admiration, even those that manage to move on at all.

What I wish wholeheartedly is to see him how friends/family see him - not in a favourable light...when do you stop loving them? Especially when you know that they so don't deserve it.

A thought I have been pondering and I honestly can't come up with an answer, is why if they are the one to leave do they either hate or hold you in disdain? Really can't get my head around that one??...and so to google to see if I can come up with any answers..

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