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Jan/Feb locals chat

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SJ99 · 22/01/2008 18:10

How exciting to be starting thread

Yay, thanks Sfx, am already looking forward to banana bread, mmmm!

In Sweden they had Noise Police (everything is so formally governed over there) but what a great idea, they used to go and put a stop the noise polluters, no messing.

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Paddlechick666 · 29/01/2008 16:44

Ha ha ha! I have mumsnet on my blackberry!
Nothing else of interest to add!
Oh dd also had bad bottom at weekend

rosmerta · 29/01/2008 18:50

Had a good afternoon today, ds & I walked down to the high street & then popped into the library on the way back. He insisted on picking up every stone & stick he could find!

My HV's are average, like sfx I've had selective hearing at times though!

Ele, nice to see you, hope work calms down soon!

fitfox · 29/01/2008 19:11

Oooh must try and get it on my Blackberry!!!

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SJ99 · 29/01/2008 19:21

Hello all

Went to singing in the morning, followed by no nap so we stayed in this afternoon.

Me: shall we do some drawing with felt tips this afternoon?
DS: no, no, no
Me: ok what do you want to do?
DS thinks about it then says: let's do drawing with felt tips

I've had the opposite experience to you Sfx, I absolutely loved the midwives but had ghastly experiences with HV's. They're nice enough people but were not much help at all, often made me feel miserable or angry or both.

Hope Gherkin on the mend, no fun for anyone being sick. DS also now got a bit of cough, hope it doesn't get worse

Steppie hope you feel better too. Better get a hot toddy down you to ease your throat! Exam papers are for professional acountancy exams, been a while since I sat mine so better do some swotting up in case I get the job...

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sfxmum · 29/01/2008 19:34

SJ I think you have a manager in the making there.

I forgot to mention that when at Kew Gardens we were witness, along with a huge crowd, to 2 swans either mating or beating each other up, I couldn't tell as I hastily removed toddler away with her awkward questions

  • still she reported back to daddy, prompted by his question
'have you seen any creatures today?'

this can only get worst

also gadget envy

Paddlechick666 · 29/01/2008 19:35

i hate tuesdays. it's a mad scramble to get out the door looking presentable and dd is tired adn grumpy when i collect her and then she's in bed an hour after we get home

dd hasn't seen HV since august 06

mmr...... hmmmm. she needs something as she's at pre-school now. maybe i should trade off new kitchen for single shots.

slng · 29/01/2008 20:29

Nurse at our gp was going to give ds2 mmr
when he was booked in for a different jab. Luckily eagle-eyed me saw TWO syringes instead of one and asked. When I told her we were going for single jabs she said research has shown that single jabs not as safe as combined. I played 'umble (yes I can do that if I put my mind to it) and thanked her for the information and if she could point me to the research publication we would read up and make an informed decision. I still haven't found the publication, probably due to all the incoherent mumbling and handwaving at the general direction of the computer ...

fitfox · 30/01/2008 10:12

Slng - single jabs are only "less safe" 'cos parents often forget to have the whole course done! . Lucky you spotted the sneaky needles eh? That reminds me I must get DD's single boosters done.

Paddle there is a clinic near Ele who do single jabs. I was going to DH2000 in Eltham, but its a long drive. (Although if you wanted I could take you and DD and get mine done at the same time - anything to get me motivated, its parents like me who give single jabs a bad name)

The school rang yesterday to tell me that DD keeps insisting on joining in for school dinners (i.e. walks into the hall, sits down and eats a lunch I haven't paid for!!! ). On Monday she ate her packed lunch then tucked into a school lunch afterwards! She never even mentioned it when I collected her. She now insists "I want school food", so I will have to ask if she can switch mid-term

eleusis · 30/01/2008 10:19

Paddle, if you are worried, just go get the measels one and worry about the others later. In my opinion, measels is the only one I really don't want my kids to get. If they get Rubella, they get over it and have better immunity anyway. Just need to make sure they don't pass by an unprotected pregnant woman in her first trimester. And mumps, as I understand it, isn't really that serious until later.

DS is 3 and has had the measels one (at the clinic near me). Need to get round to the other two at some point, but I'm not in a huge hurry to fork out the cash. I really really need a new car, and I really really need to get my kids on a plane to Chicago.

eleusis · 30/01/2008 10:20

Foxie, DD wants school meals too. But I told her no because Sodexho wouldn't give me a list of ingredients. She takes a hot meal in a thermos.

fitfox · 30/01/2008 10:35

Ele - can you remind me of the name of the clinic in Sunbury, so I can get my arse in gear to get at least a measles booster for DD?

IKWYM about school lunches and not knowing what's in them. I suspect DD wants them 'cos her friends have them. I might give her school lunches until Easter, then try packed lunches again for the summer term. I think school lunches work out cheaper but like you, its the contents I am a bit sceptical about.

My lodger has left for China BTW - to get married. She's not back for three weeks. I want to get them a little pressie from the DCs but can't think of anything. Any ideas?
The DCs love her - specially since they discovered she has a webcam!

Kewcumber · 30/01/2008 10:41

isn't money in a red envelope the tradional lucky gift (apologies for ignorance if not)? Or how about something to decorate their room - crystals to hang at the window or a smart throw/cushion for the bed - put the present in a red envelope/wrapping as a gesture maybe.

Kewcumber · 30/01/2008 10:44

can I just ask - wasn't the concern about the MMR the measles virus being found in the bowel of some children. Why is the single measles jab better - surely its the same risk?

I'm not trying to be contentious as DS has had MMR and I'm not really bothered whether anyone else does! I just not entirely understand the advantage of single jabs.

Paddlechick666 · 30/01/2008 10:57

ele, foxie, you read my mind as i was just about to ask you where you got yours.

is it this place www.directremedies.com/index1.htm near you ele?

kew, i think it's the vitamin A thing isn't it? isn't there a link with autism and being unable to process vitamin A?

i think, for me, it would be the option of spacing out the innoculations rather than having the big bang of MMR.

as she had a reaction to the first round of jabs which were combined i can't be sure exactly which one it was. not that the medical profession believed me and dismissed me as "clearly intelligent but probably over-anxious and possibly depressed"!

i know that money in red envelopes is the usual new year thing. isn't the number 8 considered very lucky in Chinese culture too?

Paddlechick666 · 30/01/2008 10:59

foxie: The most common Chinese wedding gift is cash wrapped in red envelope, also named Li Shi money. Check is acceptable, of course. However, if you are not a close relative or friends, go ahead and buy any gift you think is appropriate. Whatever you buy, do not give the couple a FAN as gift since the pronunciation of fan is "san", which means "disperse" in Chinese, thus considered a bad omen...

eleusis · 30/01/2008 11:06

I just prefer not take any chances with my children's health, even if the cause and effect of the risks have not been proven beyond a shaow of a doubt. My children have a second cousin who is autistic and I am not prepared to take ANY chances.

I couldn't care less what the NHS has to say about it. I think they forget that they work for me, and decisions regarding my children's health are my privileddge and not theirs.

eleusis · 30/01/2008 11:07

Oh, and yes, Direct Remedies is the place. They are not very good about tending to the e-mail. So you are better off calling them.

eleusis · 30/01/2008 11:09

Foxie,
Does your school use Sodexho (RUT borough catering contract)?

sfxmum · 30/01/2008 11:31

good morning all

paddle regarding your other thread have you seen this sorry can't find thread
am a bit tempted

regarding MMR and autism I think it is about parental choice however autism pre dates vaccinations

slng · 30/01/2008 11:36

foxie - don't buy a clock either! Funereal connotations. Money in red envelope is good. Can be a new year thing or a wedding thing. Or buy sweets. Everyone likes sweets, and implies a sweet life. Everyone likes a sweet life.

Kewcumber · 30/01/2008 11:47

eleusis - I really wasnt trying to have an arugment about MMR - I really don't give a stuff what anyone else does but I do take issue with your statement "I just prefer not take any chances with my children's health"

Not innoculating against diseases is just as much taking a chance as going for MMR. You have decided that it is a "better" risk for your children but imply that it is not taking chances whereas having MMR is, is just untrue.

As far as I am aware there is no risk-free approach.

I personally don't subscribe to the immune system overload view (I believe that childrens immune systems are being bombarded daily and succesfully dealing with all manner of things, vaccine are very low down the list of things their immune system deals with) but I absolutely respect someones right not to agree with me and agree with SFX that parental choice is key. The govt really missed a trick by not researching and educating about MMR and instead coercing.

Paddlechick666 · 30/01/2008 12:05

sfx, oooh very cool. pricey tho!

i bought a duvet & pillow from ikea for about 12 quid and a couple of duvet covers & pillow cases for about the same.

DD's bed looks very cute all made up and i intend to put her into a 1.5tog bag underneath. it's not a very heavy duvet.

she loves being tucked in and i always have to do at 7pm when her room is nice and warm then creep back in at 7:30pm and uncover her until it gets chilly later!

wrt to MMR, there are pros and cons to either. IMO we should be able to discuss it rationally whilst respecting each other's choices.

if we can't do that and be adult then perhaps we need a rule not to mention it here.

sfxmum · 30/01/2008 12:23

to be fair we have discussed this and other fairly emotive issues in parenting and it has been fine

am well aware that my permissive parenting style is not widely approved but have not yet been booted out

now off to spread my germs to all the kids in Tumble Tots

SushiMummy · 30/01/2008 12:34

Hello everyone!

Just a quick one to say hi and hope all the poorly ones are on the mend.

V busy at work, 3 meetings this morning and one more this afternoon. Poor DS, I'll have to pick him up much later than usual.

Kewcumber · 30/01/2008 12:50

sfx - just to clarify I meant I agree with sfx about the parental choice thing, though obviously massively disapporve of your "permissive paretning style" (bloody hippy)

Perhaps I am being sensitive but I thought very carefully about the MMR (as most of us do) and I don't like the implication that those who have chosen to go ahead with MMR are the ones who are risking their childs health (and obviously I have no idea what inherited traits DS has re autism or leaky gut etc). If it were that simple it would be a no-brainer - every right minded parent would take the risk-free approach.

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