Jan/Feb locals chat

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How exciting to be starting thread

Yay, thanks Sfx, am already looking forward to banana bread, mmmm!

In Sweden they had Noise Police (everything is so formally governed over there) but what a great idea, they used to go and put a stop the noise polluters, no messing.

COV - are you entering masterchef?

it was very nice out today and we had several conversations with random strangers all along the lines of 'would you believe it is the middle of February...'

Ros happy to try different places which are relatively accessible.
the thing about bus rises with dd these days
is that she will not stay in her buggy for the entire journey unless it is very short.

Bunyan aren't you due in early April? hope the house is sorted by then, people seem to move house a lot when pregnant, judging by my ante natal thread

and Ros does your mum feel bad? I expect ds is ok?

Ros - my DS tried to run of the edge of the station platform onto the tracks when he was about 18 months, when my mum was looking after him. She moved faster than any of us knew she could and stopped him in a rugby tackle but I think she aged about 10 years in that 10 secs. she still gets cold sweats about it!

my mum (& ds) is fine, she just said that he cried a lot & was asking for mummy & daddy! A few minutes later he was happily playing with the stick again!

Kew, its awful when they just run off like that! My dad was out with my brother's girlfriend's children (got that?!) along the canal and the youngest one went straight for a canal boat that had flowers and stuff painted down the side, she actually slipped down off the bank and the only thing that stopped her going into the water was her big padded jacket! V v scary moment for my dad!

many years ago when my niece, now nearly 17, was about dd's age I was looking after her and while playing on the sofa she dislocated her arm. cue horrible screaming, had me convinced it was broken, I took her to A&E, then a 15 min walk from her flat.
while waiting to be seen she would occasionally scream and kept weeping, but was distracted by a small boy and a toy, they got playing she fell and we heard a crack, apparently the bone clicked back into place, and she stopped weeping

I have never quite recovered from that day

just enjoyed my (not so) secret guilty secret of america's next top model..
flippin' nora (i'm in 70s s(h)itcom mode)..the girl-child is wailing..got to go..

Hi All,

I have a rare day off today so thought I'd make the most of it and catch up on mumsnet! How is everyone doing? Think I may even watch the dreaded Jeremy Kyle.... just because I can!

good morning all sooo foggy!

hi Amanda, whatever tickles your fancy I say

steppie I haven't watched that for a while it's like watching little vacuums go pop but quite funny at times.

not terribly keen on going out just yet, shall sit around and wait for the sun to make an appearance I think

hope you are all well

morning all, ds off at nursery so am just doing the boring housework stuff!

Steppie, I love Tuesdays cos I get to watch ATM with my breakfast & cup of tea! So funny to see them all & now I can instantly tell who's got what character iyswim!

Guess everyone's out enjoying the sunshine!

..if only, ros, if only....

is it sunny then?

kew, it looks like

your ds was so cute this morning, btw. hugs and kisses for me and dd. i was more receptive than dd who prefers to make the first move

ah, we talked about kissing last night (upsy Daisy was kissing Iggle Piggle at the time I hasten to add, it wasn't a random snogging conversation). And we discussed who he kissed - your DD was one of the list but he's obviously added you off his own bat!

funnily enough, read a piece in the guardian today about how in the night garden has 'taught" lots of toddlers to kiss..
and i'm quite happy to be added to his kiss list

first thing I did when I got him permanently was teach how to hug and kiss. He had no idea what it was before then, if he was upset he would only let you hold his hand

Kew, that's so sad

When ds started watching ITNG he would kiss the tv, took me a while to get him to kiss me instead

kew, that is so but glad to see he's clearly way past that now. he does give great kisses!

dd has always been a big kisser even pre-nightgarden.

she was awake early this morning so into my bed where she showered me with kisses telling me "i kiss you lots mummy. i give best kisses in the world" lol.

i've taken a sick day, have still got the sinus thing.

just run a hot bath and about to dive in and soak.

well, he's certainly got the hang of it now, thanks to you (and upsy daisy).

i love the first stage of toddler kissing...
the open-mouthed, drooly lunge
just like her father

but, yes, a toddler's (advanced) kiss is the sofest, sweetest thing

sorry you're not feeling well, paddle. enjoy your bath..

I also love older childrens reaction to the open mouthed toddler kids

It was sad and the hardest thing to deal with initally - his inability to be comforted. He does seem to have caught up well though doesn't he PAddels DD and he are very cute as they kiss each otehr to order!

Steppie DD is a little standoffish and as she said prefers to be dictating events...

QC - is it the culture thing? We don't have the hugs and kisses culture in Japan (only lovers do!) so it took me a bit to get used to them from DS who learnt it at nursery. LOL

no, not the culture thing - 12 kids to 2 carers, 8 different carers on duty 2 at a time 24 hrs on 4 days off. Although the carers are lovely and kind they are not in anyway like a parent. They will give them a cuddle when they cry if they have time but the kids don't cry often in my experience.

I don;t see not kissing at 1 as being a big deal (in fact that may be cultural) but the children as not used to being cuddled even at bed-time. They just get placed in the cot and carer has to move on to the next child. its why many of the children (even in a good institution like DS's) have self soothing mechanisms. He used to lie on the floor face down and lay his face on his hands and rock his body when he was tired or going to sleep. It took him about 4 months to lose that compeltely. There was a phase in the first month when I was still in Almaty when he was losing the ability to self soothe but wouldn't accept me cuddling him. We had some VERY traumatic nights where he just couldn't get to sleep until I worked out that lying down next to him but not touching him except for holding his hand worked.

Children who are badly neglected will resort to their self soothing mechanisms all their life and they can be hard to break but its important becasue for their brains to develop normally children need to learn to depend on an outside carer for comfort, food etc. If they become self reliant too young it ususally leads to reactive attachement disorder which is in effect permanent brain damage.

OK lecture over

hi all beautiful day if a little nippy

kew that is quite sad, many adults with SN I worked with had many self soothing behaviours/ mechanisms, many had been left in institutions quite early on as it was the norm. all very sad really.
Observing those with attachment disorders and those without clearly convinced me of the importance of human touch, although I have put it in quite a simplistic way.

speaking of kissed dd used to hate if dh would go near me, she is ok about it now but mostly only when she directs him to give me a kiss and a cuddle

off to bake chocolate chip cookies