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OverRated · 05/12/2007 02:36

... here is a lovely new thread. With an uninspired but easy to find title. And an old list.

Please update as needed.

  1. Mamama - Chicago, DS 2
  2. Twirl - MD - married, DD 3 and DS 1
  3. Califrau - Milpitas, CA - married, ds1 (7), ds2 (4). sahm
  4. Greatgooglymoogly - NY State - married, DS1 (3), DS2 (17 mths)
  5. Alipiggie - Erie, CO - 2 DS's aged 5 and 4
  6. Tinpot - North Carolina
  7. dooneygirl - Oregon City, OR A married SAHM. DS 4 , DD 2
  8. Earlybird - TN, DD (6)
  9. SofiaAmes - LA
  10. LATyke - Redondo Beach, CA
  11. NannyK - Boston, MA
  12. Marls001 - Bentonville, AR
  13. Hellish - Ottawa, Canada
  14. Sunchowder - Florida - DD Girlscout age poss 14ish, SDS um late teens.
  15. SittingBull - near San Francisco, CA - married,two children, 1 DS 3 years, 1 DD 18 months
  16. ChiTownLady - Chicago
  17. MKG - New Jersey -ds1 22 months,ds2 3 weeks
  18. Yesthereare4ofthem - NY State
  19. Albert, Brazil - married to Brasilian, DS(7)
  20. Texan Dallas, TX, married to a Scot, DD (7), DS (5)
  21. Tiggyhop - Houston. DS (4) DS (3) and DD (20 months)
  22. Bananapudding - Texas. married, DD 6
  23. jabberwocky - TN married, ds1 3.10, ds2 6 months
  24. Brooklynmom - NYC. DD, 14 months old...
  25. Vixie78 - Houston Texas
  26. TwinMommyToBe - Boston
  27. Barefeete - British Virgin Islands
  28. Dodgykeeper - Dayton, Ohio 29)Syd - Manhattan Beach, LA
  29. Weewilliewinkie ? VA
  30. Chocchipcooke - Ohio
  31. Mummimamma - PA. Married, DS, soon to be 5, DD 1 (15 months)
  32. Shouldalistenedtomymum - Canada - Hamilton, Toronto,
  33. Anorak - Bermuda, DD 15 and DS 7

East Coast
NannyK - Boston
Twinmommytobe - Boston
Greatgooglymoogly - NY State
Yesthereare4ofthem - NY State
Brooklynmom - NYC
MKG - New Jersey
Mummimamma - PA
Twirl - MD

The South
Earlybird - Soon to be in TN
jabberwocky - TN
Sunchowder - Florida
Marls001 - Bentonville, AR
Tinpot ? NC

Midwest
Mamama ? Chicago
ChiTownLady - Chicago
Dodgykeeper - Dayton, OH
Chocchipcookie - Ohio

Rockies & Southwest
Alipiggie - Erie, CO

Northwest
dooneygirl - Oregon City, OR

California
SittingBull - nr San Francisco
Califrau ? Milpitas
Syd - Manhattan Beach, LA
SofiaAmes - LA
LATyke - Redondo Beach

Texas
Texan - Dallas
Tiggyhop ? Houston
Vixie78 - Houston
BananaPudding

Canada
Hellish ? Ottawa
Shouldlistenedtomymum - Hamilton

BVI Barefeete Bermuda Anorak Brazil
Albert, Brazil

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OverRated · 21/01/2008 01:21

Oh, the fake Europeanness of many Americans. Why do they say things like, "I'm Italian" when they really mean 'my great grandmother was born there but came to live here when she was 3'. It's like me saying I'm French because my ancestors came over in the Norman Conquest. One of my Irish friends (she really is Irish, from Dublin) had a huge argument with an American who claimed to be more Irish than her She always says "You're about as Irish as a box of Lucky Charms"

I would have done the same, dodgykeeper and bought the biggest flag I could have!

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jabberwocky · 21/01/2008 01:27

Lol, you're all right, of course. I guess it's just that Americans have no real way to think of ourselves as unique in a cultural sense IYKWIM.

And for heavens sake, I have just remembered why I hardly ever post outside of my regular threads. Must remember to leave chat alone

expatinscotland · 21/01/2008 01:31

'I'm Scottish'.

Oh, really, where were you born in Scotland?

'I'm half-Scottish'.

Oh, really, which half, mother or father?

Even my father laughs.

Him, the first generation child of Mexican immigrants - it was legal back in 1920, people, for folks to just come across.

'I'm American,' he proudly says.

And well he should.

What is so wrong about that?

He's a patriot. I am not.

OverRated · 21/01/2008 01:41

I actually think it's quite nice that people's roots are important to them. And National pride isn't necessarily a bad thing. I think it's a bit sad that I have become more patriotic since leaving the UK [blush'

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expatinscotland · 21/01/2008 01:45

but that's the difference, OverRated.

a British person would see themselves as, well, British - English, Welsh, Scottish, Northern Irish

an American would see themselves as, 'This-American, that-American'.

but they're first . . . American.

expatinscotland · 21/01/2008 01:51

you never realise how much you are American.

until you leave . . .

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OverRated · 21/01/2008 02:07

And I suppose that's another thing - so many Americans actually do know their roots and have bothered to trace their family tree through many generations. Most Brits settle for being British (or Scottish/ English/ Welsh/ etc). A cousin did my family tree but I wouldn't know anything about my heritage had she not.

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expatinscotland · 21/01/2008 02:07

not on a holiday. not on a year abroad.

but for real.

you fall in love with and marry a . . . Brit.

or a Scotsman or a Welshman or N. Irishman, etc.

and you get to read, years and years after you've been here, British passport and all, loads of anti-American comments. on 'have your say' and everywhere.

you take your elder daughter to nursery and they say, 'oh, are you American' and then they smile when they hear your daughter speak with an excellent Scottish glottal stop and hear her say, 'My father and I are from Edinburgh.'

you think of Sir Winston Spencer-Churhill: 'Americans are bastards,' and his retort, 'Then I must be half-bastard,' he being the son of an American woman.

you are a breed apart, forever.

you see your children grow up. you know that if you weren't here, they'd never have come to pass.

but they are foreign to you.

and no one who didn't live the UK who is American will ever understand that. how can they?

your children, they may bolt when they are 18, they probably will.

and when they do, they won't be American, excpet in passport and Social Security number.

despite all your influence.

they are British born and bred.

and you cannot change that, no matter how your accent or views have never changed.

they are British and somehow, passport notwithstanding, you are a breed apart.

expatinscotland · 21/01/2008 02:17

but their roots are both, OR.

and you have taught them, no matter what, that that is important.

that that means something.

that they have a duty.

and so you see, how this can cut in different ways.

see, i am American, and so my children will learn, this is our ally. you have a duty to both. to help both. no matter what. your great-grandfather and his brothers did their best in WWII to protect both - your great-great uncle married an English orphan, during the war.

your great-great uncle Manuel, he died, to help, for what is right, for a Europe free from Hitler.

and we got and buy the wreath, to Uncle Manuel. RIP.

but others maybe they don't have this view.

maybe they think, 'i wouldn't help.'

i know, deep down, the American, they probably would.

that's why, it hurts so much, to see them bashed in the British press.

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dodgykeeper · 21/01/2008 18:22

My parents are both Irish and moved to Scotland shortly before my birth. My dad always told me when I was growning up that I should be proud of my Irish background but that I was born and raised in Scotland and that made me Scottish. We spent every single holiday growing up in Ireland and I love the place but still doesnt make me Irish.
Does create a dilema for us if we decide to stay here. I think of my kids as Scottish but if they moved here at 4 and 7 and stay here until they are adults, what does that make them? I dont feel I have any right to call myself American but if dhs job keeps us here, who knows what the future holds.

dodgykeeper · 21/01/2008 19:48

Ok total change of subject.
I badly need my hair cut but Im a bit worried about it; I had the same hairdresser for about 7 years before we left! I want a short bob with a fringe - what do I ask for? Also dont know where to go. There is a place near us that specialises in kids haircuts but does adults too. They have dvds, play stations and a big climbing frame so I could go there when I have ds with me (which is most of the time). Just a bit worried about the standard of cut I would get. OR could go to trendy looking place in Mall while ds is at preschool but I would worry about getting back in time for pick-up so not exactly a relaxing treat. Dh is away quite a bit and evenings are filled with swimming, dance lessons etc. I have reached the stage where all I can do with it is wear hats. How do hairdressers compare with home (price, tips, terminology..)?

OverRated · 21/01/2008 19:49

I think raising children in a different country to the one we call home raises all sorts of issues that most people would never think about.

DS has dual citizenship. He is being raised in the US yet I still want to say he is British yet I know that he will always legally and culturally be American. Americans often comment on his accent and how funny it is because he says 'water' the way I do but to me, he sounds quite American. I love when he says, "It's durrdy" (it's dirty)

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OverRated · 21/01/2008 20:10

MLK is one of those wierd holidays that apply to some people but not all. It looks like the students have the day off here though.

Re haircuts, I wouldn't go to a child's place because...well, I suppose I'm a bit snobby. I go to a place downtown (Mario Tricoci but I think they are local - they do have a few branches though but I am not sure that it extends to Ohio). Usually, the person who cuts my hair (and they do it really well) washes my hair. You can either give them a cash tip (which seems preferable) or add it onto your card when you pay. I usually leave 10 - 15%

I think showing us a picture is a good idea!

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loopsngeorge · 21/01/2008 21:59

Can I join you? We're living in Brentwood, LA just for 3 months while DH studies at UCLA for a term. I got some great advice from this board when we were planning our trip and now here we are! We're having a brilliant time, loving the warm sunshine and going to the beach. My one bugbear at the moment is the weird sweet bread which DS won't eat! I've just been searching the threads and see that Whole Foods is recommended so just off there now to see what we can find. Oh and to visit the park AGAIN!

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loopsngeorge · 21/01/2008 22:54

What a great name for a bread!! Nightmare for you being allergic to it. I think I'd be buying a breadmaker too if I was here any longer. It's so strange they've got two extremes of taste, too sweet and too sour and nothing in between!

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OverRated · 22/01/2008 01:29

Oh, I'll add you to the list, loopsngeorge

Welcome!

Hope you found something in Whole Foods - their seeduction bread is really good but last time I looked it was over $5 so I didn't buy it. We avoid bread as much as possible and I make my own when I can. If you have Trader Joes nearby, they do more 'normal' bread too.

East Coast
NannyK - Boston
Twinmommytobe - Boston
Greatgooglymoogly - NY State
Yesthereare4ofthem - NY State
Brooklynmom - NYC
MKG - New Jersey
Mummimamma - PA
Twirl - MD

The South
Earlybird - Soon to be in TN
jabberwocky - TN
Sunchowder - Florida
Marls001 - Bentonville, AR
Tinpot - NC

Midwest
Mamama - Chicago
ChiTownLady - Chicago
Dodgykeeper - Dayton, OH
Chocchipcookie - Ohio

Rockies & Southwest
Alipiggie - Erie, CO

Northwest
dooneygirl - Oregon City, OR

California
SittingBull - nr San Francisco
Califrau - Milpitas
loopsngeorge - Brentwood, LA
Syd - Manhattan Beach, LA
SofiaAmes - LA
LATyke - Redondo Beach

Texas
Texan - Dallas
Tiggyhop - Houston
Vixie78 - Houston
BananaPudding - Austin

Canada
Hellish - Ottawa
Shouldlistenedtomymum - Hamilton

BVI Barefeete Bermuda Anorak Brazil
Albert, Brazil

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dooneygirl · 22/01/2008 01:39

I KNEW the list would make an appearance again. I got all excited waiting for the return.

Yesterday was loads of fun. Both the kids have colds, and Caitlin had a stomach bug on top of it, too. Neither one would let me take their temperature, opting to scream wildly and ask for daddy. They both seem better today, and are driving me crazy.

OverRated · 22/01/2008 01:59

Hope the DC settle down soon, Dooney. It's horrible when they are ill & snotty. I don't envy you!

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