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Stage IV cancer? Incurable? Roll up, roll up, this thread is for you!

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mowly77 · 05/08/2023 17:46

I’m expecting tumbleweed. But I’ve jumped over from the lovely supportive threads I’ve been on for general cancer - latest one here-

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/general_health/4863468-cancer-support-thread-89-the-best-thread-that-no-one-wants-to-be-on?reply=128175880

to see if there’s any interest in a separate thread. I often feel like such a derailing buzzkill on the general cancer threads as there are so many shapes, sizes, flavours of cancer & so many different issues when you’re being treated to be cured as opposed to being treated palliatively.

And those of us unlucky enough to be incurable, and let’s face it, dead, sooner rather than later from this insidious disease, have our own concerns and darknesses. And admin. And hopefully some good days. Please, please let there be more good days.

Help, advice, dark humour and support are the aims. There are wonderful people on the cancer support threads & I often feel guilty for trauma-dumpling my tales of woe on it, to those dealing with their own, but different, bullshit.

Anyway —- come on in, the door is open. All I have to offer today are tales of woe about NHS incompetence & updates on the state of my bowels.

Here’s ‘my story’ - my bullshit story I wish wasn’t true but here we are. Please share yours if you would like.

estrogen+ BC diagnosed age 36, v aggressive, 3 tumours, 2 very large. Right mastectomy. No lymph node involvement. 5 miserable months of old school FEC poison. Then diagnosed BRCA2+. Left risk reducing mastectomy. Then crickets from the NHS. No one told me NED but indeed I had none. So for 11 years I love my life.

I give birth in 2018 to my DD, conceived via IVF, as my reproductive capabilities did not survive the FEC. Had my ovaries removed shortly after as per advice for BRCA2 patients . THEY DIDN’T BOTHER TO FURNISH ME WITH ANY ADVICE ABOUT HOW TO DEAL WITH SUDDEN SURGICAL MENOPAUSE WITH NO HRT THOUGH. And a baby in the mix! I’m still v cross about that.

Right when I wasn’t expecting it, when I thought I had ‘beaten’ the ten year survival rates (hahhhha, that fucker came back. After much faffing from utterly shitballs hospital trust finally diagnosed metastatic, stage 4, incurable, spread in my lungs, pleura and sternum. This was March 2022 when my daughter was 3.5

I’ve since had 15 rounds of Paclitaxel (first 3 months some shrinkage; last 3 months total failure, back where started) & then managed to get moved to Royal Marsden in London with great effort as my oncologist was so bad, so rude & she made my life a misery. I started on the ‘gentler’ regime of Palbociclib & Letrozole and whilst I was battling horrible side effects from those I had a 6 month run of clear scans and I was finally getting to grips with the treatment. Then the other shoe dropped and the bastard cancer is growing again. I’m still on Palbo & Letrozole while they test my blood for an enzyme that will determine if I can move on to Capecitabine. Which I’m terrified of! Better the devil you know.

In the meantime I’m in America with my family (who all live here) trying and failing to communicate with the NHS over email to see if I can fly home earlier than scheduled so they can see me quicker and get me on Cape asap because I’m really not doing well.

I can have a ‘good’ day if I’m dosed up to the eyeballs on Oramorph but it’s all quite exhausting & I’ve had to temporarily come off it to relieve my insane constipation and stomach issues. So now I’ve been on bed for two days. BUT it’s not all bad. I’ve been to see the Barbie since I’ve been here & been to the local pool with DD a few times & enjoyed sitting on the porch listening to the cicadas. It’s boiling hot too so am getting a break from the rain.

I’d love to hear your stories, tales of woes, worries, advice. Anything at all you want to say in this safe supportive space. There’s just so much in the mix for this stage of bastard cancer.

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Feliciacat · 27/11/2023 18:25

How can I find her articles? I would love to read them. I am not somebody who belongs on this thread but I stumbled across Mowly/Fay’s posts as this thread was on the ‘Mumsnet front page’. May she rest in peace, she was a beautiful soul.

Silkiebunny · 27/11/2023 19:09

Sorry Felicia We weren't going to put Mowly's full name online due to privacy concerns as its a public site.

Feliciacat · 27/11/2023 22:31

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Silkiebunny · 27/11/2023 23:19

Thanks Felicia Yes it's lovely there is a record of her left for her daughter.

DaisyMaisyFaisy · 28/11/2023 17:32

Sorry I’m feeling a bit “oh woe is me” today. I’ve come down with a chest infection on top of the BC (bastard cancer) so I’m currently in hospital while they decide what to do me with. I tried to resist being admitted, because quite honestly I’d rather be at home spending what time I have left with the kids, the dog, the cats and even the bloody noisy budgie. Not laying in a hospital bed listening to my breathing when my out breathe sounds like a steam train pulling into a station.

There aren’t many days where I wish the end would hurry up but this is one of them. I haven’t even managed to watch todays episode of Neighbours which is about my only guilty pleasure left.

Going to try and snap out of it now. Sorry everyone, I just knew you’d understand

TwigTheWonderKid · 28/11/2023 19:13

Oh @DaisyMaisyFaisy that's super rubbish.

Are they looking after you though?

I had a horrible peritoneal infection in August where I felt so rubbish I thought I was dying and was frankly quite pleased at that prospect as I felt so grim. But I've found that once you are admitted the various teams seem to swing into action and I felt very looked after. Hoping they get the right antibiotics in you asap so you can get home quickly.

HerbalRefreshmentt · 28/11/2023 20:26

@DaisyMaisyFaisy oohh feel better soon! There is nothing worse than going to get something checked out at the hospital and the nurse rounds the corner with the dreaded wristband. Ok, sometimes yeah, you need to be there, but its never fun and such a disruption from normal day to day living. I like having my stuff around me and the option to go get my own snack and meals, always lose weight in the hospital!

Still doing this head cold although Im wondering if it isnt Covid (of course home test says negative and that was a newer test). Terrible sore throat and swollen tonsils, every lymph node along my neck is swollen, low fever, loss of appetite, headache. There was a bit of cough but that may have gone now. I hocked out two enormous, really disgusting globs this afternoon from my sinuses and that seems to have helped the sore throat and cough. Ill call it in tomorrow and probably get hauled into the assessment unit for the day (at least they have nice veggie sandwiches on the lunch cart) as Im at risk for pneumonitis on this current drug.

Silkiebunny · 30/11/2023 15:43

I've just heard back from the lovely Knotty & Pistey and they will be making a woolly hug for Mowly/Fay's daughter. They have asked for ideas for squares I have given some ideas but if anyone else has any please add/PM. I have done cats, newspaper, US, heart to show love for daughter possibly with first names/initials together, English beach. I'm not a knitter so don't know what's possible but they seem very talented and could probably adjust things. Daughter is 5. Said will start in next week or so. Think they ask people to knit squares and donations for wool.

HerbalRefreshmentt · 30/11/2023 18:04

@Silkiebunny she loved walking I know that much, she was still taking walks like 4 or 5 weeks before - perhaps a park scene? Perhaps a typewriter or books. I seem to recall reading somewhere more general online) that she was writing a book about herself and her experience with her mom, perhaps those two names/initials in addition to hers and her daughters and her husbands? She was also a big fan of music, especially Kate Bush (saw her in 2014) and had Madonna tickets but couldn't go.

Silkiebunny · 30/11/2023 22:24

Thanks so much Herbal.

Silkiebunny · 30/11/2023 22:53

Fay's obituary is now online.

balkanscot · 01/12/2023 14:36

I have read it, @Silkiebunny, thanks for pointing it out. Still can believe it had happened. I have just got a new phone and have set up the Legacy contact (person who can access all my stuff stored on iCloud), and it said something along the lines “Legacy contact will have to have the QR code and @balkanscot’s death certificate.” Just seeing my name next to these words (death certificate) is just so surreal.

wited · 01/12/2023 20:20

Silkiebunny · 30/11/2023 22:53

Fay's obituary is now online.

Is there anyway we can see it? I did try to Google but didn't manage to find it. I'd appreciate a PM, we obviously all knew it was coming but she will be missed.

Silkiebunny · 01/12/2023 20:43

Yes that's fine wited There are two online, one an obituary and one from the funeral directors with a picture of her.

Silkiebunny · 01/12/2023 20:46

So sorry Balkan That must be incredibly difficult to see and I hope you can defy the odds for as long as possible.

LuciaPillson · 02/12/2023 16:13

Hi all, just sticking my nose in after a week full of appointments, currently trying to pick up my pieces and stick them back together, otherwise dirty laundry pile and dirty dish pile may join forces and sit on my head. Have a little chemo break and am hoping to have the strength to slowly massage the chaos into... less chaos? Or something. Hugs to the whole thread and keep your peckers up, not in the rude sense of course. 😊 😁

TwigTheWonderKid · 02/12/2023 17:05

No peckers have been up in that sense in my household for quite a while...but, despite it being chemo week , I'm excited that DS1 is coming home from university on Friday and trying to do what Xmas prep I can as my next round is brilliantly timed for the week running up to Christmas.

@LuciaPillson I wish I could pop round and help with your domestic chaos. But just take your time and remember you can't eat an elephant in one go!

WrenNatsworthy · 02/12/2023 19:49

@Silkiebunny please may I have a PM re Mowly as well please.

I can't knit. How can I do something for the woolly hug?

WrenNatsworthy · 02/12/2023 22:02

In other news, my will is nearly written. Met with my solicitor on Thursday and got it all sorted.
Just need to sort my funeral and then DH and DS are all set.

HerbalRefreshmentt · 03/12/2023 17:39

Getting a will done is top of my to do pile for January when Im off work. Ive been putting it off for too long and its not like it needs to be super complicated because its all going more or less to my husband and if any family want something in particular great, they can ask for it and he can dish it out. But after spending overnight in resus in July with the embolism and writing out passwords in my notebook 'just in case' and now seeing just how fast things can turn, I want everything tidy and off my mind.

balkanscot · 03/12/2023 22:09

I sorted out POA (power of attorney) and will as soon as I had found out I was stage 4. The awful situation with my DH made me realise how important it is to have all the back up in place. Luckily, he sorted out POA and will as soon as he was diagnosed with glioblastoma but even then, getting all the passwords was a Kafkaesque nightmare. Glioblastoma progressed so fast that soon after he was in no fit state to do anything.

Eventually we managed to get a password for Bitwarden where he put all the passwords. Still, when it came for me to start phoning up all the companies trying to change personal details & passwords, Jesus fucking wept. Death admin is the most soul destroying god awful thing.

At least someone else will have to deal with all this shit later after I am gone.

Thanks, @Silkiebunny, every time I take Capecitabine I do a little prayer. Every time I wake up in the middle of the night. Every time I get any aches & pains, too. And I am supposed to be an atheist!

StrawberryJellyBelly · 04/12/2023 09:45

You can donate wool once the colours etc have been decided one. There should be updates on the Wooly Hugs board.

StrawberryJellyBelly · 04/12/2023 09:47

I’m sorry, the above was in reply to Wren.

LuciaPillson · 05/12/2023 19:39

Hey, everyone.

Well I'm supposed to be using my time off chemo to sort out my place and all the mess I've created while having too many appointments. But instead, I'm falling asleep every few hours and waking up all dozy and unco-ordinated, having been moved forward in time with nothing accomplished. Very cross about this. Why are the gods of daytime wakefulness not bestowing their blessings on me?

TwigTheWonderKid · 05/12/2023 20:55

Oh poo @LuciaPillson . Sorry you aren't achieving this week. Cannot tell you how much I wish I could come and give you a hand. Funny week here, I've pushed on through the chemo tiredness, amazingly excessive wind and other side effects to try and get the house Christmas-ready for when DS1 comes home on Friday but mentally I am not in a great place. Keep doing stuff I normally love and wondering if it will be the last time...

It's Mowly's funeral tomorrow at 2pm. I'll be raising a glass to her with a good sweary toast, anyone want to join me virtually?