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Pamela thread 3 - Bile Duct Cancer, off to London!

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WilsonMilson · 05/07/2023 22:51

Just starting a new thread.

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EarringsandLipstick · 06/07/2023 17:32

@Lougle

Excellent, thoughtful post.

StellaJohanna · 06/07/2023 17:36

Hi Pamela,
All the best to you (and Kerr). I am on the move today so did you a prayer card in York minster this morning (for their prayers tonight) and Durham Cathedral this afternoon. I'm off to Escomb tomorrow at 9am which has a wonderful ancient church, so I'll say prayers for you there. Much love from a stranger.

Pamela thread 3 - Bile Duct Cancer, off to London!
Inkpotlover · 06/07/2023 17:37

Lougle · 06/07/2023 17:29

No, MNHQ can't be responsible for judging whether someone's a grifter or a genuine poster. There have been posters in the past who have fabricated entire stories, going over many threads, with photos 'in situ' that everyone took as evidence of their genuineness. Then, someone noticed that the photo was actually a picture of their child (true story), or someone noticed that the equipment behind the bed wasn't laid out in the way that the hospital the poster claimed to be in lays it out, or that it was the wrong colour, etc., (true story). It's awful and it's distressing for everyone. So MNHQ decided many years ago that they would post a message on any thread where either the OP stated that they were in a tough spot and needed support, or where other posters suggested that the OP was in a tough spot and could do with support.

In this case, MNHQ have gone as far as to say:

'We can't see a shred of evidence to indicate the OP isn't above board but sadly, we can't know with 100% certainty that any poster is genuine, no matter who they are or how long they have been here. As frustrating as it is, we're not able to vouch for anyone.'

That is as far as MNHQ can responsibly go in declaring @WilsonMilson a genuine poster.

@WilsonMilson You've made it really clear that your need is emotional support. Don't let people suggest that doubt has been cast on your character or the truthfulness of your situation. It hasn't. MNHQ have simply cautioned posters against giving more than they can afford emotionally or physically, because people do tend to get caught up in the spirit.

Equally, this is your journey and your decisions will be for you and your family to bear. I would hate for you to make decisions out of an implied obligation to keep MNers happy that you are 'fighting'. You will be bombarded with information over the next few days and I hope that you and Kerr, along with Jacob, can make decisions that are in your best interests without any influence of well-meaning but not well-informed spectators.

I disagree. Given the emotional posts OP had already shared and the level of detail about her medical journey, I think their response was insensitive. So many times they've just given a vague one line 'we've checked this person out and can't see any cause for concern' but this time they went into chapter and verse about how they can't be 100% certain etc etc. It was a disparaging response given the circumstances.

Peridot1 · 06/07/2023 17:38

Yes excellent post @Lougle.

And now can we please just all go back to making this thread a supportive and safe place for @WilsonMilson.

If posters do want to feel they want to do something more then they can donate to pancreatic cancer research or similar.

Twinsmummy1812 · 06/07/2023 17:38

I apologise Pamela, I think I was one of the first to suggest donating money to get you to London and I’m fairly new to MN and didn’t realise it would trigger a response from them. I’m so sorry if this has added to your stress in any way, I understand they have the interests of all posters at heart and have to cover themselves but think it read coldly and a bit ambiguously.

I also send my love and prayers to you. My DH and I have just missed a flight due to a nasty accident on an autobahn in Germany (I think everyone involved was okay but cars and lorries were involved). Usually I would be so uptight and panicky but honestly, because of you, I just let it all go and let the stress wash over me. Life is too precious.

I’m so pleased you are in competent, caring hands. God bless to you and your family. Caroline x

charlestonian · 06/07/2023 17:50

Ignore the MNHQ message - as someone else said, it's just an auto response to a report.

Just take all the positives you can from this - so many people are rooting for you.

EllaView · 06/07/2023 17:51

Right here for you Pamela, with prayers, hopes and love.

Trixibella · 06/07/2023 17:56

You’re really doing so brilliantly - I can’t believe how pleased I was to read of your decision to go to London, it was so brave and exactly the right thing to do. I feel proper hope for you.

I know lots of people have experience and knowledge of cancer but those in my life have been very unwilling to express how they feel both physically and mentally which is completely understandable but reading your posts has informed me so much and I’m really grateful for this. The insight is really rare and valuable, to me, certainly. Loads of people know so much more than I do and laying bare your experience has been very raw to read but fundamentally useful.

fuck the Antrim stuff. Really, fuck it and them. Looking forwards to good treatment and good doctors and everyone busting a gut to fix this.

smileyplant · 06/07/2023 17:56

I've been reading all your messages and you are constantly in mine and my families thoughts. Wishing you all the best tomorrow for stenting and what follows. As others have echoed please let us know if there is ANYTHING you need! You can do this!!!

Bellagio40 · 06/07/2023 17:59

You are brilliant, Pamela and beautiful. Very happy birthday for tomorrow.

WeThreeKingsofOrientAre · 06/07/2023 17:59

Very best wishes for a good outcome tomorrow. We’re all with you Pamela xxx

William1992 · 06/07/2023 18:03

Sweetheart please keep posting and keep fighting you are an absolute star - I for one will keep checking all the time to see how
you are doing ❤️ you are going through everyones worst nightmare and doing it with grace and dignity - I hope with all my heart you feel better after your op and your treatment can start so you can make more memories with your beautiful family ❤️ totally ignore the negativity Pamela
and thank you so much for keeping us updated - we are all behInd you with gentle hugs xx

Allwelcone · 06/07/2023 18:03

Yes amazing positivity coming from you Pamela at this shall we say challenging...time! Positive thoughts from me to you ✨️ Hope you get some sleep tonight xx

LakieLady · 06/07/2023 18:10

Positive thoughts for a successful stenting tomorrow Pamela, and I hope your birthday is the best it can be. ❤

LadyRoughDiamond · 06/07/2023 18:10

I’ve been sharing this thread with the doctor husband over the last few days and he his astounded but, sadly, not surprised at how you’ve been treated. I know that you don’t want people to ‘give’ anything, but one thing people can give is their attention.

Please read what has happened here and know that the state of the health system in N Ireland is what is headed our way in England if the NHS continues to be run down to the extent it currently is. Every day my husband is speaking to people who are waiting far too many weeks for cancer referrals, or chasing up hospital departments. It’s only getting worse, not better. Don’t let this happen.

Vintagecreamandcottagepie · 06/07/2023 18:12

Delurking to say there are loads and loads of us following along in the background and we all believe you and are rooting for you and your lovely family.

You are brave and eloquent and I'm over the moon you're being looked after properly now.

Keep posting if it helps, we're all here.

Drivingmecrazydizzy · 06/07/2023 18:12

Hi Pamela. I have been following your threads and thinking of you all the time! I just want to say as ill as you are you are still as beautiful as ever! Good luck to you sweetheart xx

Riojaroundtheclock · 06/07/2023 18:13

You're incredibly brave, Pamela, and I'm so glad you made it to London. I hope you have a comfortable night, and I'll be thinking of you tomorrow.

Love, light and peace, Liz in South London

Showerscraper · 06/07/2023 18:14

So good to see you in your comfy room in London Pamela! So happy that you are there ☺️ everything crossed on going and thinking of you loads xxx 💕

VioletVesper · 06/07/2023 18:14

Thinking of you Pamela, you are doing amazing & so pleased to hear you are now being properly looked after 🩷

WilsonMilson · 06/07/2023 18:17

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

And I don’t want Mumsnet HQ or anyone else to get a bashing here, I just want to draw a line under it, don’t want to hear anything more about fundraising etc - I know it was meant so well meaningly. I am just here for support, your wonderful messages (latest church pic was wonderful) your prayers by the sea, your flower pics, animal pics, candles, words of cheerful and hopeful anything.

I just want a loving community, sounds soppy but that’s all. I also actually want something for my family to read if I’m not here anymore and take some comfort in if. I want to be able journal my story, actually I want to try to help in any way I can too, because I’m by far the only person going through this or caring for someone going through this, and if I can make sense of anything to anyone while I still have the intellect and the ability to tap on my phone, I will do that. I just want to get back to the spirit of my thread and move onwards. Big day tomorrow.

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TheMamaYo · 06/07/2023 18:17

Wishing you so much love, luck and strength for tomorrow.

You’re gorgeous. 💕

Sunmachine · 06/07/2023 18:20

Keep on keeping on Pamela and I hope your birthday tomorrow is a turning point for you! Xxx

Mudandpuddle · 06/07/2023 18:22

Sending love from Italy Pamela, you are a strong person x

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