Trans girls not allowed to go to girls secondary schools, have I got that right?

[Sendhelpsoon]

Just checking as daughter is navigating this now and I’m sure many have been here before us.

[Stichintimesavesstapling]

I think single sex schools go by sex, not gender, I don't think they care what gender you identify as.

[SudocremOnEverything]

Send your child to a mixed sex school if being in a single sex school with is likely to be an issue for you/your child.

Simple.

[FrankTheThunderbird]

@Stichintimesavesstapling

I think single sex schools go by sex, not gender, I don't think they care what gender you identify as.

This. And rightly so.

[OneRingToRuleThemAll]

At age 10/11 I doubt many have been there before you.

But yes, schools go by sex when they are single sex.

[Pootles34]

I think you ought to check with the school, not on here, as it may differ from school to school?

[HardLanding]

My local private girls only school is single sex only and remains staunchly that, rightly so. There are multiple mixed sex private schools within spitting distance of them.

[knittingaddict]

That sound right op. As others have said, a mixed sex school sounds like the best idea.

[WeepingSomnambulist]

At the moment, single sex schools are single sex and that's that. Hopefully it wont change but you never know.
They should remain single sex. It isnt about how the kids feel about their gender. It's about the reality of their sex.

[EveSix]

Is your DC in Y6 and you are currently looking to apply for secondary school places?
I'm almost certain your DC, if male, will not be admitted to single sex girls' school; do not waste one of your choices putting a girls' school down as it may not count as a valid choice and therefore invalidate your full selection (it is really important in my local authority to make a full selection of 3 schools as the LA becomes liable for funding transport to an alternative setting if they fail to place your DC in one of your 3 chosen schools).

If your DC (or you) requires support with navigating gender identity issues, instead make contact with school prior to visits and application to have a discussion with them about your situation, where they stand, and also whether they have any actual experience and understanding of the wider issues.

[TrashyPanda]

Single-sex school.

nothing more to be said.

[Bobbins36]

“Trans girls not allowed to go to girls secondary schools, have I got that right?”

let’s hope so.

[onedayiwillmissthis]

Schools are either mixed sex or single sexed. Sex being that observed at birth. Every child, of either sex has therefore the same choice.

[Sendhelpsoon]

Thought so , thank you

[CarrieCrow]

It's a pity to think in terms of "rights" vs the welfare of the child. Say you are technically "allowed" to, if your child's mere presence in the school is a point of contention and they are a political football for the girls and adults around, how is that the best decision for them? Adolescence is hard enough, let them form a healthy personality in a neutral environment. That is, if the child's welfare is the priority, and not conflict for conflict's sake.

[mrsmccormick]

What would be the point of single sex spaces if the opposite sex could access them?

It's a very important question.

[Shadowboy]

If it’s a single sex school then thankfully it will only accept a child of that sex. Gender and sexual identity and two different things. One is a biological and scientific fact and the other a social construct.
as a parent of girls I would be saddened to know that an all girls school would accept a sexually male child.

[SummerSazz]

My DD's single sex grammar has a lot of children identifying as boys. Feels like a bit of an oxymoron to me and would think these children would be 'triggered' by this. Apparently not.....

[PamDenick]

As I understand it, all school admissions go by birth certificate. Therefore if your child is male on their birth certificate, they may not apply to a girls’ school.

[TheClogLady]

I think technically a pupil of the opposite sex can attend a school designated for the other sex only.

But this is a really exceptional carve out for like, the headteacher’s only son at a remote mountainside boarding school for girls with no boys schools in a 30 mile radius (and even then the boy would have to use his parents sleeping and washing facilities and not be in with the girls) and it would be at the discretion of the governors.

Not at all applicable to OPs scenario but thought it worth mentioning…

[WishIWasACavewoman]

My friend's DD became a trans DS at about 14 and went to a single sex boys school. I could never understand why the school allowed it. She's now had that stance reinforced from such a young age for all of those formative years and will find it so much harder to unpick when she inevitably ages out of it. It's a fee-paying school, not sure if that made any difference to their sex acceptance policy.

[TheClogLady]

Some smaller independents do need bums on seats!
Especially as a KS4 transfer when there are vacancies due to families moving away etc.

Seems like an absolute safeguarding nightmare for the staff though - boys school = boys changing rooms = boys toilets = exclusively boys to play sports with.

Being surrounded by all those pubertal natal boys all day everyday probably increased the poor transboys Dysphoria too - all that opportunity for physical comparison and hardly any respite 😬

I frequently read accounts from trans identifying kids of both sexes that state how much they hate being around ‘cis’ kids of the sex they identify as due to jealousy/feelings of inadequacy. Seems like a terrible thing to do to a kids mental health (and probably bad for some of the other pupils too, who are forced to deny their own senses and call a spade a garden fork)

Seems much healthier to send kids with gender-based identities to mixed sex schools where they can blend in wherever suits them best and use bio sex-based or single user facilities and not spend their whole lives as the odd one out (or in fear of being outed as the odd one out). Allows freedom for desistance and experimental gender fluidity without parents freaking out that detransition means changing schools.

[WishIWasACavewoman]

I absolutely agree ClogLady. I think my friend and her DH were just doing the best they could, and this was 4 years ago in the white heat of the TWAW/affirmation is the only treatment peak, so probably didn't get any good advice- I know they both think it's sad and ridiculous but want to support their child. I can't help think that the child will have had a worse school - and possibly identity - experience because of it

[TheClogLady]

We’re all just trying do the best for our babies, regardless of which path we’ve ended up on

The lobby groups who profess to have children’s interests in mind (middle aged male transitioners writing fantasy based ‘guidance’ for their imagined past selves that has been thoughtlessly applied to a completely different cohort growing up with an entirely different set of circumstances - social media) have a lot to answer for 😓