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I've been so stupid, im scared to death

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Scaredashell13 · 03/12/2025 17:36

Please don't judge, I've made a horrendously stupid mistake and im so scared what's going to happen to me and my two children.
A couple of years ago I had a breakdown and started gambling again (I started gambling after my 2nd dc was born but stopped after a year with help). A long story short, in the space of 9 months I stole approx 36k from my employer who happens to be a local authority. They found out and I was subsequently sacked. I admitted everything and provided all evidence they requested such as bank statements etc. I have now registered with Gamban and Gamcare, my Drs have increased my medication which helped me get out of the dark place I was in. I considered suicide almost daily but my two children are the only reason i'm here. I have since worked on myself and have a new job and doing well....until today. I came home to a court summons in the post with a court date just after Christmas. This will be the first hearing and i'm praying to God I'm not sent into custody. I am absolutely petrified and have been sick with the thought of not being with my children (age 12 and 15). I'm so scared. I dont have any family, I was raised in the care system. I dont have any friends I can confide in, and im a single parent. What do I tell my children, how do I tell my children? I could face a prison sentence up to 10 years. I have reached out to a solicitor today and hoping they'll contact me tomorrow. I feel like im already slipping back into that dark place. Im so stupid and I wish I could turn back time. I just want to hug my children and never let go.

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Anyonecansee · 20/01/2026 10:45

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Flyingwithwings9 · 20/01/2026 10:45

I tried to put myself in your position & ask myself what I would do while waiting for the outcome. I don't know how it feels to have a gambling addiction but from what I've read it's a very serious condition involving far more than the desire to profit from the money thrown away.

Have you considered writing a letter to your lawyer describing everything you would like to say to the judge to help them understand what you have been through & how a custodial sentence would affect your children. An explanation of what you are doing to turn your life around & how you intend to work hard and try your best to pay back the money you stole to feed your addiction.

Whatever the outcome it sounds like you are a good mother to your children & they will always be there for you. Stay strong.

santasbaubles · 20/01/2026 10:45

I am sorry you are going through this. You made a terrible mistake, you’re not the first and won’t be the last. It must be so stressful given you have kids so I really hope you don’t get a custodial sentence. Is it inevitable?

Maryaliceyoungx · 20/01/2026 10:46

There is as a thread on here last year of someone in a similar situation. Single mum, think it was around 30k, pleaded guilty, showed remorse and was trying to pay back. She got a suspended sentence.

advice for her was to make sure school DSLs were fully engaged through the whole process.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 20/01/2026 10:50

Anyonecansee · 20/01/2026 10:37

Well, by that analogy all gambling companies have to do is say "Gambling can send you bankrupt and is not a healthy habit, if you think you're addicted call (insert number) plus be restricted on advertising - which is a bar I'm fine with.

In Vegas, they used to ply you with free drinks all night and there were no clocks anywhere, or windows in the big casinos, plus ATMs absolutely everywhere.

I think no clocks and no windows is fine but plying people with free alcohol and having ATMs every ten feet was going too far. I don't know what it's like these days, this was the 90s. So I can see an argument for some restrictions.

But I said, OP is an unreliable narrator, and I'd need to know the real details before I could reasonably judge if there should be any blame placed on the gambling companies for OP choosing to spend the money she chose to steal on gambling.

I'd be more inclined to think she might have a point if she hadn't spent every post saying poor me and not much else.

Gambling operators are obliged to abide by safeguarding regulations. If they don’t, they can be held liable and made to repay funds. The requirement for due diligence goes far beyond making a simple website statement as you suggest, and that’s because vulnerable people need to be protected.

GwendolineFairfax8 · 20/01/2026 10:50

Didshejustsaythatoutloud · 20/01/2026 10:35

I'm going to sue every chocolate maker when I eventually get diabetes as well!

Ridiculous analogy. The Local Authority must take most of the blame here. Checks should be in place.

Scaredashell13 · 20/01/2026 10:51

I wanted to be caught,which is part of the reason I didn't reconcile the payments. I also asked several times to hand the credit card back which they've even admitted to in their evidence. I knew I had a gambling problem but couldn't stop. Its not as easy as people may think to just stop. I am not trying to gain pity, I know what I have done was inexcusable and not making any excuse for that.

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HarvestMouseandGoldenCups · 20/01/2026 10:52

There are lots of circumstances on your side OP that will be considered mitigating and reduce your sentence including:
Pleading guilty
Raised in care
Gambling addiction + seeking help
Co-operating with the system
You’re paying it back
First offence (?)

Plus:

Children (protective factor)
Employed (protective factor)

These things will hopefully be enough to get a suspended sentence instead of custodial. Good luck.

Anyonecansee · 20/01/2026 10:53

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Got things to do, must fly. Anybody else who pities/believes the OP should try carefully reading her actual words. She's sorry alright - for herself.

One excuse after another, no mention of what she did to her employers and co workers and people who trusted her, didn't pay a penny back until she was absolutely forced to and still has only put a payment plan in place in the last few weeks (and possibly paid nothing back yet anyway). Everybody and anybody is to blame except the OP and we're all just meanies who will drive her to madness if we don't kowtow.

If you really want to stay out of prison for your kids' sake you would do well to come clean, stop trying to blame anybody but yourself, show real remorse for choosing to be a criminal and in the meantime you MUST get a back up plan for your children in place because yes, you might go to prison (explained that in a previous post too lazy to go look it up).

And I hope, for the sake of your children, that you stay out of prison and don't make these terrible choices again.

And that's all she wrote.

Gert12 · 20/01/2026 10:54

Definitely contact Children Heard and Seen, a great charity who now supports countrywide.

Unfortunately women are often sentenced harsher than men and financial crime is given a tougher sentence than looking at indecent images. I supported a lady who was given 10 years for stealing £200k from her employer yet have seen men with a million indecent images walk free. So realistically you should plan for the worst and hope for the best. Take a bag to court on the day as there is no chance to get this after sentencing. Engage with the charity as soon as possible.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 20/01/2026 10:55

Anyonecansee · 20/01/2026 10:53

Got things to do, must fly. Anybody else who pities/believes the OP should try carefully reading her actual words. She's sorry alright - for herself.

One excuse after another, no mention of what she did to her employers and co workers and people who trusted her, didn't pay a penny back until she was absolutely forced to and still has only put a payment plan in place in the last few weeks (and possibly paid nothing back yet anyway). Everybody and anybody is to blame except the OP and we're all just meanies who will drive her to madness if we don't kowtow.

If you really want to stay out of prison for your kids' sake you would do well to come clean, stop trying to blame anybody but yourself, show real remorse for choosing to be a criminal and in the meantime you MUST get a back up plan for your children in place because yes, you might go to prison (explained that in a previous post too lazy to go look it up).

And I hope, for the sake of your children, that you stay out of prison and don't make these terrible choices again.

And that's all she wrote.

Thank fuck for that.

DotAndCarryOne2 · 20/01/2026 10:59

Anyonecansee · 20/01/2026 10:53

Got things to do, must fly. Anybody else who pities/believes the OP should try carefully reading her actual words. She's sorry alright - for herself.

One excuse after another, no mention of what she did to her employers and co workers and people who trusted her, didn't pay a penny back until she was absolutely forced to and still has only put a payment plan in place in the last few weeks (and possibly paid nothing back yet anyway). Everybody and anybody is to blame except the OP and we're all just meanies who will drive her to madness if we don't kowtow.

If you really want to stay out of prison for your kids' sake you would do well to come clean, stop trying to blame anybody but yourself, show real remorse for choosing to be a criminal and in the meantime you MUST get a back up plan for your children in place because yes, you might go to prison (explained that in a previous post too lazy to go look it up).

And I hope, for the sake of your children, that you stay out of prison and don't make these terrible choices again.

And that's all she wrote.

Got things to do, must fly. translates as ‘I’m bored with putting the boot in and have just realised that l’ve outed myself as smug and, judgemental and completely devoid of any human feeling or empathy.

FuzzyPuffling · 20/01/2026 11:02

Soneone very close to me blew the whistle on a colleague who was then prosecuted for stealing £1m from their employer. Also gambling related. He received a 9 year custodial sentence.

Not what you want you hear.

But...the fall out caused my person to have a mental breakdown and they have been unable to work since, despite trying. No crime is victimless- the ripples really spread.

I hope you sort your life out, OP, but there will be others adversely affected too. It's not just between.uou and your employer.

PinkyFlamingo · 20/01/2026 11:05

OneFineDay22 · 20/01/2026 09:25

I don’t think it’s “obvious” at all. It’s possible but like a pp pointed out, there was nothing forcing OP to share that detail so why would she?

If it’s denial on OP’s part, I’m sure that will come out in court. We are not the court. “You took it and don’t want to admit it” is a totally unnecessary accusation that the pp has no evidence for, only a suspicion. How is it helpful? “OP, do you think you might be in denial?” Might have been a fairer question, but that’s not what she said.

I get what you are saying and I should have said it's obvious to me sorry. Simply because if the weird story about the work expenses

KilkennyCats · 20/01/2026 11:13

PinkyFlamingo · 20/01/2026 11:05

I get what you are saying and I should have said it's obvious to me sorry. Simply because if the weird story about the work expenses

Op says there’s a forensic accountant unravelling where the money went.
If op had accounted for it properly, (and why wouldn’t she have, if it was genuinely payments for work related expenses?) it wouldn’t be on her to “reconcile” where the extra £30k+ went, it would be perfectly traceable.

nevernotmaybe · 20/01/2026 11:20

Anyonecansee · 20/01/2026 10:53

Got things to do, must fly. Anybody else who pities/believes the OP should try carefully reading her actual words. She's sorry alright - for herself.

One excuse after another, no mention of what she did to her employers and co workers and people who trusted her, didn't pay a penny back until she was absolutely forced to and still has only put a payment plan in place in the last few weeks (and possibly paid nothing back yet anyway). Everybody and anybody is to blame except the OP and we're all just meanies who will drive her to madness if we don't kowtow.

If you really want to stay out of prison for your kids' sake you would do well to come clean, stop trying to blame anybody but yourself, show real remorse for choosing to be a criminal and in the meantime you MUST get a back up plan for your children in place because yes, you might go to prison (explained that in a previous post too lazy to go look it up).

And I hope, for the sake of your children, that you stay out of prison and don't make these terrible choices again.

And that's all she wrote.

Please let us know the language and begging she must do satiate the great arbiter or truth and reality known as Anyonecansee. How must she grovel to appease you, we await on bended knee for your all knowing and unquestioned judgement.

Also, good. Do go away.

APatternGrammar · 20/01/2026 11:25

KilkennyCats · 20/01/2026 11:13

Op says there’s a forensic accountant unravelling where the money went.
If op had accounted for it properly, (and why wouldn’t she have, if it was genuinely payments for work related expenses?) it wouldn’t be on her to “reconcile” where the extra £30k+ went, it would be perfectly traceable.

If she could take that much without anyone noticing it could be that the workplace (and/or the OP) wasn‘t the greatest at following procedures.

Lludmilla · 20/01/2026 11:27

DotAndCarryOne2 · 20/01/2026 10:59

Got things to do, must fly. translates as ‘I’m bored with putting the boot in and have just realised that l’ve outed myself as smug and, judgemental and completely devoid of any human feeling or empathy.

Hear bloody hear. That particular pp is clearly just wanting to make someone who is already feeling bad about her actions feel even worse, and clearly has no interest in offering constructive advice. Yes it's a major crime, but this isn't AIBU @Anyonecansee, and even if it was you've behaved disgustingly on this thread, especially given what OP has shared about her mental health. Shame on you.

OP, I haven't really got any practical suggestions that pps haven't already covered, I just wanted to say hang in there, you must have been going through hell. Some of us are capable of understanding that circumstances can push a person over the edge.

Mangelwurzelfortea · 20/01/2026 11:33

I volunteer with addicts - drug and alcohol - and they regularly end up in prison, usually for multiple petty thefts to feed their habits, and it's such a waste of everyone's time and money. It means they end up back on the streets, which means there's nowhere for them to go but crack houses, and so on and so forth. My point is that addicts need rehabilitation and that COULD start in prison, which would actually be a positive thing, but doesn't, so it isn't. Same is true for gambling. You need to be supported out of addiction. It would be a waste of public money jailing you. I hope you get a suspended sentence, and make sure you keep going to Gamblers Anonymous and work on yourself to avoid being dragged back into it. Best of luck.

StephensLass1977 · 20/01/2026 11:33

Op, have Gamban and Gamcare been of any help? In your opening post you mentioned you'd registered with them. Hopefully they've been able to offer some practical help?

No judgement here, as a pp said, this isn't AIBU. I hope you're able to move forward.

Lavender14 · 20/01/2026 11:35

Ah op funny I was actually just thinking about you and wondering what happened.

In terms of your children, I think all you can do is tell them that you made a mistake which was quite serious and even though you're doing all you can now to make things right to break it in for them and then when you're closer to your court date I'd explain that you'll be going to court and the court will decide if you need to go away for a little bit to make up for what you did, or if you've done enough already but it would only be for a short time, you'll all be OK and then you'll come home again. I'd also explain that they would be able to visit.

Could you contact a service that works with families of people who are in prison for advice on this? Where I am we have NIACRO who are fantastic so they might be able to give you some ideas around what language to use and how to explain things. Are social services involved at all and could they advise you?

Tpu · 20/01/2026 11:36

GrooveArmada · 20/01/2026 07:31

Flabbergasting some of you think her employer would just make her responsible for unacccounted £31k and are failing to see that unaccounted £31k being the issue the employer wouldn't and couldn't risk in the first place, it's entirely unfeasible unless it was indeed stolen. Nothing to do with being pompous, you need to stop being emotional and look at it calmly.

What’s flabbergasting is that you think they wouldn’t as their reflex reaction.

The corporate equivalent of “Where are my keys, you must have taken them, go find them.”

You obviously have absolutely no clue.

Elleherd · 20/01/2026 11:41

Hi @Scaredashell13 Sorry it's such a long post. Hope there's useful ideas in it.

I'm both 'care' and 'parents in prison experienced' but a long time ago. But plenty of more recent experience of others going in and out of care and prison, and or managing to just avoid it, and some of looking after others children while their parent was inside.
This is legal board, but you asked about talking to your children.
So this is how I would be thinking if I was where you are; and you need to start pretty soon given the time scale. *

I'm making the assumption that if worst case happens, kids will have to go to foster care ie: you don't have anyone who can look after them.

Talk to SS about the process and how you could make it less disruptive if it came to it and what the financial situation over your home etc would be.
Contact prison families associations about the same. Know as much as you can.
It will put you in a better position when /if the conversation heads that way, or simply needs to happen with them.
I wouldn't tell the schools exactly what the position is, unless you have an excellent relationship and trust, until and if it's needed. Then I absolutely would.
I might let them know there where some legal issues going on, but I'd be cautious for now. Keeping normality while possible, is in everyone's interest (unless they're acting up in school etc)

Some of my experiences may not help your deeper emotional state, but they may help you in talking to your children, managing their internal reactions and seeking/ directing support towards them,if you do have to serve time.

I suspect like many, and sincerely hope, you wont be going to prison, so be guided by finding the near impossible balance between keeping them in the loop, but not overloading them with worse case unnecessarily, or accidentally using them as a sponge for your distress especially about a temporary break up of family, should it happen, and yet preparing them so they are more ready if the worse happens.

Keep in mind at all times that you are trying to do what's right by them and their feelings and insecurities around the future, and not allowing it to become about you and your feelings, even if you do just want to hold onto them and cry.

If they don't know you had (have) a gambling addiction, then IMO it's where to start:
You need to let them know you have/do have one, and that you've taken steps to ensure you are in control of it.
I would currently tell them that during the period you didn't recognize your addiction, you used money that you shouldn't have, with some part of your addicted brain excusing it, thinking you would be able to win and repay it, but you can see now that of course that wasn't realistic thinking and it was stealing and that's what you have done.
You are in trouble for it, facing up to taking responsibility for it, and are in the process of sorting that out.

I would not talk about prison at this point, I'd let them just absorb this set of facts first, and if you can, leave the rest for a few days. Doing it in stages if possible, is better for them than the big reveal.
They, especially the 15 year old, may ask there and then if you will go to prison. If that happens I would say you absolutely hope not, as you are paying it back, and that 'we will cross that bridge if and when we come to it.'
If they are insistent, then tell them you're in the process of sorting that information out, and you'll talk to them asap about it. But tbh if the whole prison convo, can hold until they've absorbed the first bit, it is likely to help them.

Try to keep it all 'relatively' light, rather than 'a great confessional' or the terror you feel and say they can talk about it with you anytime.
Have something planned for about an hour and a half after telling them, (car journey is a great place for follow up questions, if you have access) but give it up if needed. Be guided by their responses, including if they are more interested in getting on with whatever was pre planned in their heads.(doesn't mean they don't care)

Accept that they may want to rush to tell their friends, (or go into deep secrecy) advise them not to do so as a knee jerk reaction, as we can't un-tell things, and friendships change, but telling them they mustn't, sets up barriers.

Remind them that whatever happens, this too will pass. Whatever troubles it brings, there will be a future where this is not the huge heavy important thing it feels now, whatever happens. Teach resilience by showing resilience but be ready to catch if they find it all overwhelming.

I think it's reasonably unlikely you will go down, but if it's looking towards a yes, I would have thought you where in a you're in a very good position to ask for sentencing to be adjourned, if needs be, be tagged, and given a couple of weeks to prepare your children and sort out places for them to go, pre sentencing. *But I'm assuming there would be an adjournment for a sentencing report anyway.

My own childhood experiences: I didn't have a loving relationship to be disrupted, but I still 'belonged' and to some extent depended on the concept of parents and their 'status.' It was also a long time back and hopefully some things are managed better, but I suspect the impacts remain in some forms and some levels.

My father wasn't in my life, but when I found out he was in prison it made me feel very separated from others and caused me to reevaluate who I was, and how much of his traits I'd inherited and therefore in my mind where 'not fixable.'
I literally downgraded myself in my own mind. No one knew or how badly.

It was the start of seeing that I too could and probably would, be 'prison fonder. The sins of the parent and all that... 'Care' made it worse.
These days the potential of targeted counseling could help stop ideas like this from forming.

My mother's later disappearance was glossed over, dismissed, different excuses given, and not talked about, but I was constantly reminded of what was having to be done for me because of whatever was going on. It was very damaging and made me less likely to tell things I needed to or seek adult support.
I spent much of my childhood and adulthood not being able to really tell what might be real or not, because it was all dependent on what others claimed and what I might have done as to what slipped out. I used to hope that really she'd abandoned me to marry a millionaire!
Clarity, honesty and keeping it simple along with ensuring I was neither held to blame, nor turned into something to be gossiped about pityingly, would have been hugely beneficial.

Prison visits and most of all searches as a child, left me a third class citizen without rights. (also a couple of downright violations but I didn't dare tell)
Looks of pity from some staff and attempts to normalize it by others visiting, did little positive, but part of that was because my mother wanted me aware that I/they (and their crime) where not like them, and I should view them as lower than 'us.' Hierarchy of crime got imprinted early.

It became another forced to be different, even within the other different ones groups, yet it also re-enforced the idea that I was 'natural fodder' to end up in crime and inside. I managed not to, but prison's not the proper deterrent it ought to be, because of how I grew up.

I'm afraid the other thing I have to say, is your parent being in prison makes you incredibly vulnerable to predatory others of all kinds, including the predatory do-gooders, and gossiping staff, most of whom can't but help share the situation around.
This is the stuff you need to be a strong mum to them over and help them combat and if need be, slough of.
I've steered an awfully leaky, battered ship through a lot of storms, but I think my children, and a couple of 'extra' have done ok because I've tried to keep that balance of honesty while remaining adult, not telling them too much more than they need to know until they need to know it, but with enough time to absorb it and discuss it, and done all i could to lower and protect them from all sorts of dramas. Ie; We've been evicted (squats for homes) a lot, but they never saw the ballifs etc we moved quietly like any family moving home, they never saw the inside of any benefit office, or sat waiting outside a court etc, never allowed to see me looking unkempt in hospital, all those things go a long way to creating security in an insecure life. A late to the table one: look after yourself too.
All this stuff is wearing on the body and brain. Hope things turn out ok.

KilkennyCats · 20/01/2026 11:47

APatternGrammar · 20/01/2026 11:25

If she could take that much without anyone noticing it could be that the workplace (and/or the OP) wasn‘t the greatest at following procedures.

Certainly the checks and balances were sadly lacking, but op herself had no reason to not to properly account for the sum of £30k if she wasn’t diverting it for purposes of her own.
It’s not a relatively large sum, but it’s not petty cash either, and keeping it off the books wasn’t down to a lack of following procedures, it was either deliberate or she was literally unable to do the very basics of her job.