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Legal amount to drink with children in the house?

188 replies

MBRE · 15/08/2024 16:50

Just that really. Once the kids are in bed, asleep, if I want a G&T or a glass of wine is that legal whilst still "in charge" of the children if their DF is out? What's the limits etc if the police were turn up and breathalyse me? Are they even allowed to do that? So all kids asleep, over the age of three but two under five, two older ones over ten. What's the actual law around this? Anyone know?

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MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:17

3luckystars · 15/08/2024 17:16

It all sounds a bit mad.

It's making me quite paranoid I won't lie

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Mymanyellow · 15/08/2024 17:18

This is very odd. Honestly op are you drinking too much at times? For a social worker to Rick up in the middle of the night to take someone else’s child away seems extraordinary to me.

Reugny · 15/08/2024 17:19

MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:16

Duty social worker and police.... who failed to welfare check my own children and left them with me... so that was weird in itself. I really need to know exactly what's been reported but no one will tell me

Sounds like there was an issue with the child's own parents which is why the child was put in your care. They are not allowed to tell you what was wrong as you aren't party to proceedings.

Ponderingwindow · 15/08/2024 17:19

You are allowed to have a drink.

However, if you are dealing with an insane situation, why would you bother? It might be unfair and maybe it is harassment, but why give the person trying to hurt you any ammunition. You can easily unwind with a nice mocktail and a good book

Ratfinkstinkypink · 15/08/2024 17:20

Were social services aware the child had been placed with you in the first place or was it an agreement between friends/family?

Recoverymoreprotein · 15/08/2024 17:20

vodkaredbullgirl · 15/08/2024 17:04

Are you sure it's safe guarding ringing you?

It won’t be. If there were concerns your children were in immediate danger the police would be at your door to check on your children.

OP it sounds like someone is harrassing you. I would be contacting the police.

bergamotorange · 15/08/2024 17:20

MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:16

Duty social worker and police.... who failed to welfare check my own children and left them with me... so that was weird in itself. I really need to know exactly what's been reported but no one will tell me

In this situation I would:
A) remove all alcohol from the house and not drink to ensure no confusion
B) get legal advice about your rights to access info about reports

You say you have already reported an ex for this? Report again, say it is happening again and it may be him.

Nowordsformethanks · 15/08/2024 17:20

You sound like you have may a drinking problem but trying to see if there's a way you can cover your arse. Something about your posts tell me you'd be slurring your words if you were speaking.

Apologies if I'm way off but it's what I'm getting from this thread.

CandyLeBonBon · 15/08/2024 17:21

MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:12

Guess the problem is I don't know what's being said exactly by this sources as it's all "anonymous"

There's no such thing as a centralised safeguarding team. You're being trolled/harassed. Make a note of dates/times and contact police with info

Icedlatteplease · 15/08/2024 17:22

You've actually had a child removed in the night by the police and a duty social worker

....and you're more worried about whose reported you?

I think at this point most people would ditch the drink because alcohol isn't really worth The hassle.

WhatMe123 · 15/08/2024 17:22

There is no law. However you should be able to care for your children and attend to their needs. If not then this is a safe guarding issue. So a couple of glasses of wine is fine if you can hear them cry, help them to the loo etc but if blind drunk you don't wake up when they do and fail to get out of bed in the morning then this is neglect of their needs.

Reugny · 15/08/2024 17:22

MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:11

Last one was "hi it's X from the duty safeguarding team, we have had a report you have been drinking with children in the house, are children in the house? Have you been drinking?"

Tell the next person who calls if you aren't looking after someone else's child that you are recording them, and/or they are on loud speaker and you are not alone.

liveforsummer · 15/08/2024 17:22

Did the police/SS state they were removing the child due to drinking? Because if so I'd suspect the person who's dc you were looking after, if not are you sure they weren't withholding the dc from a resident parent? A very odd and dramatic thing to happen in most circumstances! This is all very odd.

Chewbecca · 15/08/2024 17:22

I mean, I don't even answer my phone at night, I leave it downstairs so they would get nowhere ringing me.
I wouldn't answer. If they called in the daytime, before engaging I would ask for their name and department, then call a publicly available number for the dept to verify who was calling. (Then if it was genuine, I would cooperate answering questions fully, I have nothing to hide).

MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:23

Mymanyellow · 15/08/2024 17:18

This is very odd. Honestly op are you drinking too much at times? For a social worker to Rick up in the middle of the night to take someone else’s child away seems extraordinary to me.

The problem is I have a couple of G&Ts and because of medications it makes me appear more intoxicated than I am. I'm still more than capable of looking after the children. As for the one removed I was told it was because someone attending to the parent had said I was intoxicated and social services decided it was best she was removed.... she had been in my care over five hours at this point and was asleep! As I say if it was because I was intoxicated then why were my own children left without even a welfare check? Just a cock up by social services or more malicious crap being reported about me? I'm driving myself insane trying to figure out who's doing it and why. I'm never so intoxicated I can't care for the children, if I am I make sure I have a sober adult in the house so ensure the children are safeguarded

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BonnieBonnieBanks · 15/08/2024 17:23

😬 I really dont know about these things but surely the police and social services don’t rock up in the middle of the night and remove a child if you aren’t in fact drunk..?

Reugny · 15/08/2024 17:24

The problem is I have a couple of G&Ts and because of medications it makes me appear more intoxicated than I am.

Then stop drinking if you are on medication like that. Some medications including some very common ones are contraindicated with alcohol for this very reason.

CandyLeBonBon · 15/08/2024 17:25

Sorry op I've just read your updates. If you're on medication that shouldn't be mixed with alcohol, then why on earth are you drinking?

supersonicginandtonic · 15/08/2024 17:25

I can twll you right now that children's services would not be calling you out of hours for that reason alone. The emergency out of hours number is for children deemed at being at immediate risk, nothing else.

Reugny · 15/08/2024 17:26

BonnieBonnieBanks · 15/08/2024 17:23

😬 I really dont know about these things but surely the police and social services don’t rock up in the middle of the night and remove a child if you aren’t in fact drunk..?

They wouldn't rock up at all unless there is clearly a domestic dispute going on.

They got other things to be concerned with like emergencies.

MBRE · 15/08/2024 17:26

Ponderingwindow · 15/08/2024 17:19

You are allowed to have a drink.

However, if you are dealing with an insane situation, why would you bother? It might be unfair and maybe it is harassment, but why give the person trying to hurt you any ammunition. You can easily unwind with a nice mocktail and a good book

Yep fair point and I've stopped drinking now pretty much. See if the reports stop

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IdLikeToBeAFraser · 15/08/2024 17:26

This whole story doesn't make sense.

So you're looking after a child for another parent. And then some random person who was with the parent decided you were drunk and called the police? And then the police DID come out to you and they DID take the child away?

Sorry, this sounds very odd and I'm not convinced we're getting the whole story.

Also I don't really understand the off duty safeguarding team issue. They should be very specific about where they're calling from. if they don't, insist. And report if necessary.

Icedlatteplease · 15/08/2024 17:28

You really can't drink on some medication.

Clear all alcohol from the house. I take it the kids are always to school on time etc.

supersonicginandtonic · 15/08/2024 17:28

Do you have a history of problematic alcohol use?

Also why are you drinking if your medication reacts with it? This will impact your ability to care for your children properly.

bergamotorange · 15/08/2024 17:29

The latest update makes it sound like you need help with your drinking.

Stop drinking whilst on medication. Also stop drinking so much you need to get other people to care for the kids.

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