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Just found out my mother died in January. No one told me before now and my sister has inherited everything.

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Ratatouee · 26/10/2023 06:33

I had an abusive mother growing up and when my father died a few years ago, no one told me for months (family members were afraid of her wrath). I didn’t even know he was ill/dying and was not notified of his death or funeral. I was incredibly sad about this. I live overseas, but my sister had my email as I visited her circa 18 months-2 years before he died (she didn’t mention to me at all that he had lung cancer and I think there’s a high probability she may have known at this point). I live overseas and so flew back to visit his grave and place flowers, as soon as I could, once I had heard the news of his passing.

Fast-forward a few more years, and I have found out via an old school friend this week, that my mother has also died (earlier this year). An unexpected/sudden death, apparently. I have been in shock. I just don’t understand how cruel my Aunty (who also had my email address and whom I thought loved me), could, in all conscience, not let me know my mother (her sister) had died, when she knew/saw how upset I’d been when I wasn’t told my late father was ill/had died? My sister has not contacted me either.

I’m guessing my sister must have inherited everything from our late mother’s estate, as no one has contacted me about her will. I’m not a materialistic person, however, my dad always told me and my sister that when he died, he’d leave each of us a house (he owned several at the time). I have no idea who the Executor of his will was and whether or not anything might have been left in his will to me. It’s a similar situation with my late mother: I have an old Will of hers she signed/had witnessed years ago, in which she states her wishes are to divide everything in her estate between my sister and I upon her death. I have no idea whether she changed her Will as we lost touch/didn’t get along for years due to her abuse, which continued into my adulthood. I’m not aware who the Executor of her will is either, or know where to begin to try to find out.

I’m wondering if anyone has any knowledge of contesting a will? Is it expensive? Is it worth the effort (etc)? I’m wondering if perhaps I haven’t been left ‘reasonable financial provision' as her eldest daughter (of two)? I’m a single, divorced over 55 woman with hardly and pension accumulated who struggles to fund a home/car/bills etc, (although I get by, by working my butt off). My sister was already well-off as she literally won the lottery decades ago (not the main prize, but a substantial amount that was enough to buy an investment property and a barn to convert into a home).

It can be costly contesting a Will from what I’ve read online. I’m not an adversarial person by nature, in fact I’m the polar opposite of my fiery/nasty sister and late mother, but the way I’ve been silenced/cut out, as if I don’t exist, has really upset me. If I were to gain anything from my late mother’s estate, I’d probably give it to my two adult children/her grandchildren. My mother had all my childhood/baby photos. At the very least, I’d have loved to have been passed some of them to be able to share with my children (and seem them for myself too after 50-ish years!)

Part of me says ‘sod them’ and I hope my sister ‘chokes’ on everything she has grabbed. The other part says: But what about all the poverty-stricken and abusive and neglectful childhood I had to live through, complete with emotional and physical abuse and now it’s as if I didn’t matter at all and didn't/don’t exist in my sister and mother’s eyes?

I’m wondering if you can please share your opinion of you would do in this situation? I feel really mixed about it all. She died in January this year, so I don’t even know if it’s too late to contest? I’ve only just found out, so I’m not sure if that has some bearing?

Sometimes, apart from my wonderful adult children, I wonder if it may have been better for me not to have been born at all. It would have saved all the pain, all the abuse and heartache and now this…the final ‘nail in the coffin.’ Literally.

Please be kind with your replies. She may not have liked me, but she was my mother after all. Thank you 💜

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OopsaDazy · 26/10/2023 08:39

@Neriah The point is that the OP legally should be able to see the Will.
In fact anyone can request a copy of any Will.

There are many cases where (in a family rift) the sibling manage to hide inheritance that should have gone to other family members.

Nothing lost by trying @Ratatouee

Naunet · 26/10/2023 08:41

OP, ignore the rude twats on here this morning, of course you have every right to be hurt, you absolutely should look into the will for both your mum and dad. Im confused though about you seeing your sister before your dad died and her not mentioning it, did you see your dad too? Any idea why he didn’t tell you?

As for money be tainted, what a load of crap! My dad sexually abused me from a very young age, I haven’t spoken to him in over 20 years, but if he leaves me money, damn right I’ll take it, it can cover all the therapy that I have had to pay for to help me live with what he did, it’s the absolute least he can do.

adriftabroad · 26/10/2023 08:46

I completely understand OP.

I am not able to eleborate.

Except to say, I would be very wary of your sister and Aunt would certainly see a lawyer and explore the possibilty of contesting before probabte.
No win no fee... who cares, I also understand it is not about the money. You should have been told and it is malicious and suspect to have not been. 100%.

Very convenient that the NC has been embraced and seemingly encouraged, by all.

You are being treated badly yet again, do not make it easy, yet again. Well done on your lovely children x

Winewednesday · 26/10/2023 08:47

If she passed earlier this year, could it be that probate hasn't been granted yet and therefore no inheritance has been paid yet? I know probate is taking a while. I don't think it's 'grabby' at all, I can see why the OP feels that it would be closure should she be named in the will. I would as suggested in pp check the will online.

ssd · 26/10/2023 08:47

I'm very sorry this has happened to you op, you certainly don't deserve it.
I hope you can get the answers you needFlowers

SheerLucks · 26/10/2023 08:47

I can't offer any advice but just wanted to say that I'm so sorry to hear of what you went through, and so happy for you that you broke the cycle as you say and went onto have a living relationship with your children. No money in the world can top that IMO Flowers

SheerLucks · 26/10/2023 08:48

*loving

user1492757084 · 26/10/2023 08:49

Possibly your aunt thought your sister or the executor would have told you.
I think, if you are named in your parents' Wills, that you can obtain a copy of the Wills.
I would politely ask information about who the executor is, etc.
It might be that you can easily gain the answers that you need by requesting a copy of the Will and booking an appointment with the solicitor handling the Will.
Seek legal advice once you have obtained useful information to share with a legal advisor.

SunshineAutumnday · 26/10/2023 08:51

Another one who advises therapy above all else. Personally it was the best in helping me understand my DM and build the relationship I wanted with her.

From your post there is still alot of hurt, which is understandable and lots different emotions.

On a pratical side, contact the probate office, they are very help and friendly. I believe if there is a will it goes to probate and they ask for details of all blood relatives.

Mariposista · 26/10/2023 08:52

BoobyDazzler · 26/10/2023 06:51

It doesn’t sound like you had any kind of relationship with your mum so what makes you think you should inherit anything from her? Why would you want to anyway, I’d she was abusive?

This. Move on and form your life with those you want in it.

Sinuhe · 26/10/2023 08:53

I can say, I have been in a somewhat similar situation ...

By all means, get a copy of the will. Get that last deceiving act from your family, if you need to see it.
But I think contesting the will can open a can of wormes for you psychologically.

Is it really worth it? How much would it consume of your current, presumably happy life?

You have your life, your family and survived without them fo a long time.

Look past the sentimental, materialistic stuff from the past , that may or may not have survived and focus on who you are now.

franke · 26/10/2023 08:56

Since your mother died this year it could be that probate hasn't yet been granted. I'd definitely find out what was in both wills, it is absolutely about acknowledgement and getting some sense of justice. And if you don't get either, at least you tried and can then start to move on. All the best OP Flowers

ABeautifulThing · 26/10/2023 08:58

Your life is a triumph over the abuse you were given op, incredible, you're right to be proud of that.
I haven't read the full thread only your posts (and @Gunpowder who was spot on), but your family have really let you down not sending a simple email to inform you. Morally that's repugnant. Whether you are NC or not, it's easy enough to send an update and anyone with an ounce of decency would do so. Of course you're hurt, it's not as if your absence from the scene of family life was your true choice and I expect they all know it deep down, but it's more comfortable for them not to acknowledge the part they've played in condoning what went on by turning a blind eye.
I wish you more success as a decent human and I would take @Gunpowder advice.

NeedToChangeName · 26/10/2023 09:05

Where did your mother live at time of her death? If in Scotland, then you would be entitled to inherit from the estate, even if her will left everything to your sister

MargotBamborough · 26/10/2023 09:05

There are a lot of very unfeeling responses here.

It's very common for a toxic parent to send one last "fuck you" from beyond the grave via their will. Sometimes they also do this to children they had a relationship with, children who cared for them in their later years, even. I'm sure a lot of the people criticising the OP on this thread would be the first to say that you shouldn't maintain a relationship with your parent just in the hopes of inheriting something. If it doesn't follow that you should inherit something if you were in contact with your parent, it also doesn't follow that you should inherit nothing if you were not in contact with them.

The point is that the OP needs to know. If she really was excluded from both her parents' wills, it's very unlikely that she will be able to do anything about it but at least then there will be no doubt about how they felt about her and she can draw a line under it and try to move on. There will be nothing new they can do to hurt her after this.

If she was actually provided for in their wills, firstly she will need to process what that meant in terms of their feelings towards her, and secondly she is entitled to it.

Some might view any money left by a toxic parent as tainted and that's fine. It's a very personal thing. If it turns out that she has been left something she can use it to make her life easier, to get some therapy, give it to her children, burn it, leave it all to the Battersea Dogs and Cats home because her mother hated animals. Whatever.

If you haven't been in the OP's situation, don't judge.

Some people on this thread are acting like she just went no contact with her parents for no reason.

If she suffered an abusive childhood but her mother was still near enough to her on her wedding day to deliberately burn her veil, it sounds like she tried for a long time to have a relationship with them.

Jewelspun · 26/10/2023 09:06

Have you googled your mothers name? The Gazette may have her name advertises if the executers didn't know you were abroad as your sister may have just told them that you moved abroad.

www.thegazette.co.uk

Crazymadchickenlady · 26/10/2023 09:08

Sorry for what you have been through. I went through similar with my family though it was my Grandparents after my Dad died young. They just cut us off and severed all ties to us as a family. I did look up my Grandfathers will in case my Aunty was witholding anything from us. It was really easy (and quite interesting!) and cost I think £6. I could immediately download the will onto my computer. I think it gave me some closure too. You just need to know name, location and approx. date of death. Look on Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales)

Search online for a will, grant of representation or probate document for a death in or after 1858

https://www.gov.uk/search-will-probate

payriseday · 26/10/2023 09:13

OrnateFruiteDove · 26/10/2023 07:58

If i was you I would do the probate search for the Will. If she died earlier this year - there is a good chance that Probate is still under way (especially if there are significant assets). Probate at the moment is taking ages. Probate offices at the moment are processing applications for probate made in March of this year.

It could well be the case that the estate is not yet settled at all. It doesn't happen like films make out - where the Will is read to the family shortly after death.

No distributions will be made until Probate is granted.

I understand how unsettling this must be for you.

I agree with this. Checking that the estate is being dealt with correctly and legally isn't 'grabby'. If it turns out that you benefit to any extent, possibly end up with a bit more financial security, you deserve it.

GonnaGetGoingReturns · 26/10/2023 09:15

Somewhereovertherainbowweighapie · 26/10/2023 08:23

I would get copies of both parents wills. You don’t have to contest anything, but if you were left a house and your sister neglected to tell you, you could do something about that.

This. If you were told you’d been left something then this should be reflected in eg your mother’s will if your father left his assets to his wife (your mother) to distribute.

I think if it were me, I’d always be wondering if I was left out.

Ratatouee · 26/10/2023 09:15

Thank you to all the amazing, selfless and caring posters who have taken the time to post. I thank you from the bottom of my heart. There are some really soul-warming responses on here and the planet is a better place for having decent, kind persons such as yourself on it. Thank you also for the links. 🌻

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EqualityWhatequality · 26/10/2023 09:16

I’m so so sorry this has happened to you OP. You’ve had better advice than I can give you but just wanted to send you some warm and positive thoughts at this very difficult time. 💐

Escapetofrance · 26/10/2023 09:16

It was cruel or your family to not let you know. What could their reasons be for this behaviour?
It sounds like counselling is a good idea to help you process your childhood, neglect and abuse. I am very sorry for all that you’ve been through.

OhComeOnFFS · 26/10/2023 09:22

Only on Mumsnet could someone be seen as grabby for thinking they might have inherited from their own mother.

Surreyclaire · 26/10/2023 09:22

You want money from someone you had no relationship with
it was her money if she didn’t want you to have any that is her choice

OhComeOnFFS · 26/10/2023 09:22

I wouldn't trust your sister to give you anything you were due if she was executor, OP, so I would definitely look up the will online and double check.