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Council now says children can not play in communal garden. after 40 years of them playing there.

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Oblomov · 24/08/2010 13:01

I have a communal garden at the back of our house. only accessed from the houses that back onto it. 20 houses have access to this communal garden. there is a gate, with 2 padlocks that council use to come in and mow it. i let my 6 yr old play football with the 6 other kids aged 7-11. And i let my nearly 2 year old in there.
so, there have been some 'problems' recently. and now the council have said that we are allowed access rights only.
can i fight this ? children have played there for 40 years, as instructed by the council.
if it was employment law you could say thta it was 'custom and practice', i.e. we've been doing this for 15 years, so let it continue. but does thta also work in this situation.

so: can i summarise:
1969, children told not to play in streets, kicking fotball against garages, told to play in communal garden. my neighbour said in 1969 he received letter from council telling chidlren to play there.
2004, 1 neighbour complained about older boys kicking footballs, presumably hitting her fence ? but there was a petition that i also signed (although ds1 was only 6 mths at the time, i wanted him to be able to play int he future). the council said that a no ball games sign that had been put up, which had prompted the whole thing, would remain, but that football was fine.

of the 20 or so residents, 1 clearly hates football. 5 of us want it, including me, and the other 15 are pretty apathetic.

so, now 2010. same neighbour complains. then denies complaining. council woman sends 4 letters , has innumerate phone calls from all sorts. one of her letters says we can't play. then the next says we can. then the next says that she has passed it to her legal dept, because she 'has spent alot of time on this'. she sounds fed up. i am too. but then i think, this is your job. her letters are factually incorrect, often, but only on minor items.
my says, she's just had enough of this and passed it onto legal. the letter came back, something like 'originally, you were only given access rights'. i.e. no playing at all from now on. seems extreme.

so, shes' had enough and go tot he extreme of saying that you are only now allowed to use it for crossing over to visit someone else ?

but i want my ds1(6) and ds2(under 2) to be able to play there.
it is invalueable to me. in this day and age, when we are all paedophile scared, i let my kids run around, playing ( hopefully football, but if not allowed atleast just playing) with the other neighbours kids.

what can i/ what do i do ?

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Oblomov · 26/08/2010 19:45

EAP, no when i received the last letter, i did not write back. I phoned 3 times. no returned calls. i sent 2 e-mails to ask when the meeting was. no response. i guess, at this point, she might have assumed that i had not received the last letter stating no access. i did not/ did not get the chance to expreess my livid'ness at the latest , extreme measure of going from being able to play with a small net, to no use at all.

I could just carry on with my children playing. what could they do to stop me. but i think i should have the right to be able ot do it legitimately. Plus, it is in everyones interest. if anyone sells, it is a real selling point - safe place for your kids to play. why give this up. at the moment we have no usage of the area.

woman from council today said thta she would arrange a meeting. i am hoping that it won't even come to that. hoping that counsillor will get it sorted, without having to attend meeting. I have spent hours and hours on this already.

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Oblomov · 28/09/2010 12:07

So we had the meeting. we have another one on wednesday.
The council encouraged us to set up a RA. But none of us want to. we don't see that we need to. and we are fearful that next time there is a problem, someone will phone the council nd instead of them dealing with it, the person will be directed to the chairman.
He will be doing the councils job for them.
They have offered us £1000 for the RA per year. But we don't wantt he money. they are paying us off, trying to excite us with £1k, to actually do THEIR JOB.
AND the land does belong to them. And she sat there saying 'we want the children to play there'. 'we offered to hold a meeting'.
But neither of these things are true. She CHOSE to get the legal dept to find out that we only had access rights. she CHOSE to send a letter saying no use from now on. she could have held a meeting, but this is what she chose, the tennacy mnager , was there. she is responsible.
they just wanted to wash their hands of it. and now they are claiming to be our allies, which is nonsense.

Councillor came. He is lovely. But what good can he do. Next year, or any year, if the council decide to deny us usage, they can.

This whole situtation is unneccessary. what a bodge by the council, of this whole case. And we are powerless.
Makes me mad.

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mamas12 · 30/09/2010 23:52

Can you go to the local press?

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