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Antisemitism

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bubbleandsqueak1976 · 25/03/2024 19:22

I read the posts on here with interest and often the subject of anti semitism comes up. I was brought up in a town in the South East. My mum gave me a book about Anne Frank when I was around 8 and I can remember asking ' what is a Jew?' as I had never met one. When I was about 14 a girl from northern Israel came to my school and I was asked to befriend her and help her settle in. I can remember being fascinated about her life in a Kibbutz and she used to show me
Hebrew writing. I don't recall ever hearing anything anti semitic about her or her brother as the only two Jewish kids - to my knowledge in the school. I also remember in my twenties encountering a group of lads from North London - white something and them having an absolute hatred for Jewish people. I can remember feeling utterly shocked as I'd never heard anti Jewish speak prior to this. Reading some of the recent posts on here it has made me wonder wherever there are pockets in the Uk with Jewish communities that experience antisemitism where the rest of the UK it does not occur as people simply have never met a Jewish person just their life- to their knowledge.Where I live I have only met 4 Jewish people in the Uk in my life and I am 47. The most Jewish people I have met were in Israel when I visited in 2000.

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Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 11:41

Cafe Felicita has "proper coffee" so that's a good start.

Bowib · 08/08/2024 11:42

I was on board with the food until this container photo, plastic container = sweaty fries.

Antisemitism
Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 11:48

Mmm sweaty fries.

At least they have super snickers!

I wonder if we could somehow tame a Siberian tiger and keep as a pet? They look super cute

blackcherryconserve · 08/08/2024 11:53

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 11:04

And just to add, I'm finding it quite concerning how many people are calling the racist rioters Nazis yet saying that it's not a Jewish issue and that we should get back in our box and let others take centre stage as we're not currently the victims.

This is how it always begins - they take "our" word and change the meaning of it. So now Nazis are racist towards Muslims, not Jews.

I am NOT saying they're not also racist towards Muslims, it's pretty bloody clear that they are. I'm saying that in a few weeks/months/years the definition of a Nazi will have changed. And that scares me as it feels like it's just going to lead to further rewriting of history.

I've noticed this as well. We are being called Nazis! I do wonder how much this springs from lack of history education?

blackcherryconserve · 08/08/2024 11:56

Bowib · 08/08/2024 11:23

I’m so depressed by the UK at the moment, I too have been doing the where to move to next research.

I would be doing this too if it wasn't for the fact that I'm 76! Both DDs are married to British men who definitely aren't up for moving away although if I was their age I would be wanting to.

Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 12:02

knitnerd90 · 08/08/2024 00:12

I used to live in Finchley (am Jewish). That "anti-fascist" protest is disgusting and I saw that they consider all two-staters fascists too.

I just saw Owen Jones' response to that, which is is repulsive but he has a massive following and it's very illustrative of how we are where we are. The way he sneaks in "tolerance of antisemitism" in Labour (meaning Starmer's not Corbyn's) is so fucking disingenuous.

British Jews are generally very anti-racist and anti-fascist (because reasons) but they're leaving little room for us to be part of the response to the riots.

This whole thread is pretty good actually.

https://x.com/supergutman/status/1821482286212116725

x.com

https://x.com/supergutman/status/1821482286212116725

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:02

blackcherryconserve · 08/08/2024 11:53

I've noticed this as well. We are being called Nazis! I do wonder how much this springs from lack of history education?

I think it's partly a lack of history education and partly too many catchy TikTok soundbites. The youth of today (🙃) also aren't learning critical thinking at school. They in general don't learn how to research and distinguish fact from fiction. They believe what they read without really questioning it. Even those who do question it don't form their own opinions, they just go down the confirmation bias route and find someone who agrees with their own general thoughts and then make that their opinion instead. It's all quite odd. Technology has moved way too fast for the human brain to be able to adapt to it properly!

Bowib · 08/08/2024 12:04

blackcherryconserve · 08/08/2024 11:56

I would be doing this too if it wasn't for the fact that I'm 76! Both DDs are married to British men who definitely aren't up for moving away although if I was their age I would be wanting to.

We move around a lot for dh work, both in the UK and abroad and just urgh, I hate where we live at the moment, both in the sense of the place we live and some of the comments been made to us/about us and just general antisemitic remarks, but also just the general simmering wide UK thing. If anyone on this thread becomes a billionaire overnight, can we set up a jewish mumsnetters island? I can bring tasty food and sewing skills to the island.

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:07

Bowib · 08/08/2024 12:04

We move around a lot for dh work, both in the UK and abroad and just urgh, I hate where we live at the moment, both in the sense of the place we live and some of the comments been made to us/about us and just general antisemitic remarks, but also just the general simmering wide UK thing. If anyone on this thread becomes a billionaire overnight, can we set up a jewish mumsnetters island? I can bring tasty food and sewing skills to the island.

Wait, you're not already a billionaire?? Has the Zionist state not paid you your monthly stipend?

We could bring the owner of Cafe Felicia with us to our new island so they can provide us all with proper coffee.

Bowib · 08/08/2024 12:10

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:07

Wait, you're not already a billionaire?? Has the Zionist state not paid you your monthly stipend?

We could bring the owner of Cafe Felicia with us to our new island so they can provide us all with proper coffee.

I work in the space laser department, we're very poorly paid!

Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 12:20

Bowib · 08/08/2024 12:04

We move around a lot for dh work, both in the UK and abroad and just urgh, I hate where we live at the moment, both in the sense of the place we live and some of the comments been made to us/about us and just general antisemitic remarks, but also just the general simmering wide UK thing. If anyone on this thread becomes a billionaire overnight, can we set up a jewish mumsnetters island? I can bring tasty food and sewing skills to the island.

Jury's still out for me on the Oblast and I prefer a hotter climate, so a JMnetters Island sounds good, but we'd need to find a location? Did the Nazis not have a plan to shift us all to Madagascar (before they decided wholesale killing us would be easier)? Perhaps we could revisit that if any of the peripheral islands are vacant.

Can we bring non-Jewish spouses and families, dogs and (sorry again) bacon?

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:22

Bowib · 08/08/2024 12:10

I work in the space laser department, we're very poorly paid!

Oh, fair enough. Maybe you should ask to move to Hasbara? We get paid every time someone calls us a Zionist as though it's a dirty word, says "I'm not anti-Semitic, but" or says they have a Jewish friend. As I'm sure you can imagine, it's a very lucrative job.

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:25

Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 12:20

Jury's still out for me on the Oblast and I prefer a hotter climate, so a JMnetters Island sounds good, but we'd need to find a location? Did the Nazis not have a plan to shift us all to Madagascar (before they decided wholesale killing us would be easier)? Perhaps we could revisit that if any of the peripheral islands are vacant.

Can we bring non-Jewish spouses and families, dogs and (sorry again) bacon?

Madagascar sounds nice! Another poster suggested Colorado a few months ago which I'm also keen on, but that's obviously not an island.

I'm ok with non-Jewish spouses, families and dogs joining but does anyone mind if I leave my (Jewish) husband behind? He's on holiday this week and he's really annoying me.

Bacon is acceptable but only if you promise not to force-feed those of us who don't eat it.

Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 12:27

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:22

Oh, fair enough. Maybe you should ask to move to Hasbara? We get paid every time someone calls us a Zionist as though it's a dirty word, says "I'm not anti-Semitic, but" or says they have a Jewish friend. As I'm sure you can imagine, it's a very lucrative job.

You must be rolling in it by now. Do you get a bonus every time someone implies you're lying because "there can't be antisemitism, look at all the (100 or so) Jews marching too"?

Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 12:27

but does anyone mind if I leave my (Jewish) husband behind?

😂

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:45

Hélène79 · 08/08/2024 12:27

You must be rolling in it by now. Do you get a bonus every time someone implies you're lying because "there can't be antisemitism, look at all the (100 or so) Jews marching too"?

Yes!! It's such a great gig. Easy, too! I generally don't even need to say anything for someone to volunteer that information. I'm like Scrooge McDuck, swimming around in my money every night before bed

Towerofsong · 08/08/2024 12:51

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:45

Yes!! It's such a great gig. Easy, too! I generally don't even need to say anything for someone to volunteer that information. I'm like Scrooge McDuck, swimming around in my money every night before bed

Can I have a referral, surely you can use your influence to get me a job too. I need to save up to get my spot on this Jewish island. Or anywhere but here!

Speaking of which I really like Crete. It's rolling in milk (lovely sheep and goats cheese) and honey, can we find an island like that?

Towerofsong · 08/08/2024 12:53

Oh yes, Colorado would be nice. Not so keen on the 'dancing with the dead' stuff they have on Madagascar. I'm a bit of a delicate flower with that stuff....

Though the ring tailed lenurs are cute

Bowib · 08/08/2024 12:57

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 12:22

Oh, fair enough. Maybe you should ask to move to Hasbara? We get paid every time someone calls us a Zionist as though it's a dirty word, says "I'm not anti-Semitic, but" or says they have a Jewish friend. As I'm sure you can imagine, it's a very lucrative job.

Ka Ching Money GIF by Pudgy Penguins

Oh you're rich rich then! brb putting in my cv now.

I could be persuaded by Colorado, despite it not being an island!

blackcherryconserve · 08/08/2024 13:00

Hope they get the people behind these leaflets and throw away the key, but I doubt it.

Bowib · 08/08/2024 13:02

I should be working in the space laser dept but I'm now researching houses in Colorado and restaurants, the sandwiches from here look incredible, making me hungry. www.bageldeli.com/

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 14:23

Bowib · 08/08/2024 13:02

I should be working in the space laser dept but I'm now researching houses in Colorado and restaurants, the sandwiches from here look incredible, making me hungry. www.bageldeli.com/

That menu 🤤🤤🤤🤤

Bunnyasmyname · 08/08/2024 15:56

Humdingerydoo · 08/08/2024 10:39

Yes but their flag is really pretty. So swings and roundabouts if you ask me!

Yay! A teeny area in the arse end of nowhere! Brushing up on my Yiddish now!
See you all there!!

Code4040 · 08/08/2024 15:59

I'm a Terf, so used to being called a Nazi.
It seems to be 'the' insult atm.

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