July IVF/ICSI/FET

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I didn’t see a thread for July IVF yet. I am due to start stims around 18Jul with estrogen priming starting the week before that. Collection will be the end of July all going well.
This will be my second IVF and I will be using ICSI. I will be 40 during treatment and 41 come collection. I have a child from my first IVF 3 years ago. Since then I had a chemical pregnancy Dec 2024 with my only other embryo from my 2022 cycle and a failed IUI in Feb this year.
I found the discussion board really helpful and supportive in my first IVF round as we all understand the crazy ups and downs of this rollercoaster. Wondering if there are any others with similar timing?

@Hopeandfaith1990 @StorkVisit welcome to the thread. Sorry about your mum storkvisit and I hope she is ok.

I am so tired, I did not get any sleep last night and I had 2 very unsettled toddlers who also felt they didnt need to sleep so its been a long night, then a big day today. But hubby for the win this morning. My alarm went off at 4am and somehow I managed to turn it off but did not get up, hubby who realised I wasn't budging, prepared my injection and gave it too me and tucked me back in to bed and until we were driving home this arvo I panicked that I only dreamed that he gave me my shot and I thought I had missed one. I love that man.

@Miraclemuma03 he’s a keeper! This journey can be so lonely. I’m so jealous of my other half going to work as normal while I spend hours having scans and tests and try to keep on top of my job at the same time!

I seem to be getting close to trigger now as they’ve increased the scans and blood tests. Annoyingly one of the doctors thought they saw a polyp on the scan today, praying it’s a mistake as I really don’t want to add all the delays of polyp removal to everything else. I already had one removed before I was allowed to start ivf so I hoped I was done with all that. I really can’t take more time off work for another procedure!

@Miraclemuma03 thats so lovely that he did that! Ugggh a 4am injection every morning doesnt sound good though! How come its so early?

That is so cute! Hope you can tell him he’s getting a lot of appreciation from the IVF ladies!

Thanks!! Sailed through security and they didn’t ask for anything or check my bag. Relieved! Had to do the injection in the hire car because of the time difference 🥴

How is everyone surviving in the heat?
I must admit I've been struggling.
I'm due to start 28th.
Not feeling ready for this at all. From being sick and eating takeaway straight for 2 weeks as i could bear to cook, then an overload of birthday cake and a heatwave, I can't say I've been healthy or active. I'm probably feeling the most unhealthy and heaviest I've ever been and definitely not prepared for this round this month. DH has been off on hols for few days, the plan was to keep active, few long walks but I've felt exhausted and light headed all weekend long since i resumed after the weeks break. I Truly think it's the effects from the pill. It doesn't seem to agree with me.
We got our bill today for the meds ( almost £1500) I'll be on gonal f and luveris. I was on bemfola last round and thought it was brilliant , no side effects and great blast rate 3 out of 3 , Just shit quality.
The luveris makes me wary. From what I'm reading it's prescribed to women with very low hormone levels such as fsh and lh. I find it an odd choice since women like myself with pcos have already high lh levels so i can't understand the thought process behind it. Im assuming there is one , however as i said before I really think my clinic is a one size fits all approach as he did tell me this is what happens in our clinic, he told me what medications I'd be using before even knowing my history or bloodwork, as I wasn't permitted to speak until the end 😄
Do any of you ladies have pcos? If so what medications did you use ?

Hi everyone,

Sorry I've been MIA for the past few days (and hadn't replied yet to @Timetotryagain).

Official test day was today and we found out our frozen embryo transfer failed (our Day 6, 4BB). This was our first attempt and we hadn't genetically tested.

You can prob appreciate how hopeful we were and how excited I was thinking I might be able to continue on this wonderful journey with those of you who had a successful transfer this month (I really am over the moon for you).

I'm not yet sure what this means for my future participation in this thread, but I've felt really connected to it, so I might just stick with it, even though my future FET(s) will fall into subsequent months. Hope that's cool. You can all teach me what comes next, as you'll be ahead on the journey.

What's next for us? Well we have one remaining frosty left (a Day 6 3BC). We don't know why our recent transfer was unsuccessful. It could potentially have been an aneuploid, it could have been my mild adenoimyosis or perhaps the quality of the embryo. I seemed to respond pretty well to the natural FET protocol with ovitrelle trigger (I got a dominant follicle, my lining eventualy thickened, etc.). So, yeah, decisions, decisions. Do we change protocol or just do the same thing again. The ultimate goal is still to get pregs asap.

Unfortunately the packaged we paid for only includes one EC and one ET, so we have to fork out a lot of money for any subsequent transfers.

May I ask the community a question at this stage?

For those of you with successful pregnancies after a failed attempt, how many tries did it take you, and did you have to fork out additional funds and/or did you get any discounts for every subsequent procedure (FETs and/or ECs)?

I feel comfort being in this community, as I recognise quite a lot of you have been in our shoes ❤️ Thanks for listening as I start to process.

@ALittleExpressive sorry to hear your transfer didn’t work out, sending hugs your way.

@VioIetMoon the heat has been ridiculous in London. Especially this weekend when I was at the clinic almost all day on both days. Thankfully it’s a much more pleasant temperature today although I can’t believe I now think of 25 as pleasant!

@ALittleExpressive Im so sorry to read your update. There is no words I can say to make it any less shit but we are all here to support you. It’s such an unfair roll of the dice. Take time to process it all and to grieve your little embryo. I am also interested in the question of how many fails before people had success. I was lucky first time but have had two fails since then.
We all understand the ups and downs of emotions you are going through so please do continue to participate if it helps. I’m sure everyone is happy to offer support for your future transfer/cycles. Be kind to yourself and take care ❤️

@ALittleExpressive I’m so sorry, take some time to heal and be kind to yourself. This journey can be so cruel :(

@VioIetMoon I don’t have PCOS or advice on that but I agree with the heat! Also, don’t beat yourself if your lifestyle hasn’t been perfect, you’re only human and the science and meds take care of the majority of the outcome anyway. IVF is hard enough without making yourself feel guilt for eating a takeaway 🩷 it’s also so hard to exercise in this heat!

@ALittleExpressive So sorry to hear this. I had suspected based on you going quiet but hoped to hear otherwise. It is just so hard when there is no why that you know of… making it so hard to know where to go next. Definitely stay in the thread though… I will also not be doing my transfer until next month now (if then!). Not had success yet but our first fresh failed and this next one will be our first frozen of 3 frosties. Not genetically tested them. My next attempt will be natural or natural modified (consultation on Weds and I cannot wait to just get going again… inaction drives me insane). Once again so sorry and look after you.

I’m triggering tonight which I have some trepidation about as only have 6 good sized follicles. I totally understand some would be grateful for that many but I had 13 eggs collected on my last cycle and got no blasts. So I feel a bit like 6 is going to get me nowhere! The clinic say they go for quality so I need to put my faith in that but it’s hard having had 2 cycles with no blasts.

@RainbowFluff Makes sense to feel how you do but if it helps at all I got 7 eggs (was told just 5 follicles seen on scan and cried) and from that 4 blasts. Not preg yet and not tested them but I do think quality is more important (as they tried to tell me to stop my tears!).

@ALittleExpressive so sorry to hear it wasnt a positive outcome for you :( i think sometimes they can fail for no rhyme or reason :( wishing you all the best for your next transfer whenever that will be 💕💕

@RainbowFluff all the best for trigger, hopefully some of the smaller ones will catch up too! P.s i know i was the same today thinking ahh 25 degrees how cool! Haha. Makes a change from in the 30s though!

He definitely is a keeper. I really hope you dont have a polyp. That would really throw a spanner in the works.

@Timetotryagain our clinic like the shots done at the same time every morning and by the time I get up and get the kids ready for school and see to the young ones, il forget or il do them too late so 4am in before hubby goes to work so we wake up and he does them for me so I dont have to stick myself and then its nice and quiet, I can have a cuppa with him and he puts me back to bed lol though this morning I couldnt go back to sleep so scrolling through mumsnet lol

@Hopeandfaith1990 il definitely let him know. Hes a a good man.

Im so sorry this round didnt work. Definitely stay here and keep us updated and let us help you stay sain through this process.

When I was trying for my son who is now 3.5yrs old we did a full stim cycle, got 5 eggs, 4 embryos, transferred one which was a miscarriage at 9 weeks, another embryo didnt survive thaw, one embryo didnt make it to day 5 and one embryo didnt work, so we did another round. Again got 5 eggs, 4 embryos, first fresh transfer worked and we got our son. About a yr later did another transfer and we got another son but unfortunately that was a tfmr. 3 months later we did another transfer and that got our daughter who is now 19mths. We also transferred our last embryo which ended in a chemical. But from having a full failed first cycle to then getting 2 healthy live babies from a second cycle really proves that no two cycles are the same. So dont give up just yet.

@RainbowFluff 7 is a great number if they are all of good quality. Its definitely better to go for quality over quantity. Good luck with egg collection and you never know, once they are in there, they may find some more.

Congrats at being pupo. Iv never heard of that being a problem before with the progesterone. Any how . I still think you have as much chance as anyone else so stay hopeful.

@Splishsplashsplosh93 we’re having ICSI with Zymot as my partner has quite high dna fragmentation. In theory I’m starting again on Saturday for the dual stim but I think we’ll see how the embryos are looking by then. If they seem good quality then I’ll carry on, but it will be nice to have a few days off in between.

Good luck @RainbowFluff for the trigger / EC / transfer!

@Splishsplashsplosh93 congratulations on your transfer. I've also never heard of progesterone being an issue - I've always thought the more the merrier lol. I'm glad I wasn't given the option of a fresh because I am SO impatient I would have taken it haha. But we did PGTA so it wasn't an option. The waiting in IVF is some of the hardest bits tbh!! Hoping your TWW is quick and that you get a positive outcome when the OTD comes around xxx